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The Price of a Human Life in Terms of Alcohol - Page 13
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
Unfortunately this only works in theory as pretty much everyone mentions and argues about. | ||
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StarBrift
Sweden1761 Posts
On June 16 2011 22:10 ZergOwaR wrote: agreed.. whiskey is the best shit ever.. tastes hellova lot better than beer... feeding an addiction am i? I drink perhaps 2 times a month max... but whiskey is still damn great  I'm more addicted to gaming if anything... totally invalid statement about hard liquor It's not invalid. Did you like whiskey the first time you drank it? Did you like it the second time? What about the third? No, you did it to be manly and cool. Somewhere along the line you started liking it and that's probably a mixture of you getting used to the taste and liking the "bite" of a strong alchoholic beverage. Of course there are things that taste worse than whiskey etc but in comparison to most other beverages I think it tastes really bad. | ||
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Ygz
England370 Posts
Now raising the price, that's an option. In parts of the UK for instance, the price of alcohol is absurdly low, thus leading to a lot of binge drinking in many cities. Anyway, alcohol is great!  | ||
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StarBrift
Sweden1761 Posts
On June 16 2011 22:31 Giggsy wrote: Really? Drink a nice single malt scotch and tell me it doesn't taste good. I have and I can tell you it does not taste good. When I talk about "addiction" I don't necessarily mean harmful addiction. Just that it gets to the point where the product tastes better than it would the first few times because your body has a certain craving for it. I challenge anyone to honestly tell me that the first time you tried whisky or vodka you loved it from the start. I do not believe that to be possible unless you're an alchoholic before trying it. Anything that you need to have a break in period to enjoy is not considered good in my opinion. | ||
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Philo
United States337 Posts
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question
Czech Republic509 Posts
On June 17 2011 05:54 StarBrift wrote: I have and I can tell you it does not taste good. When I talk about "addiction" I don't necessarily mean harmful addiction. Just that it gets to the point where the product tastes better than it would the first few times because your body has a certain craving for it. I challenge anyone to honestly tell me that the first time you tried whisky or vodka you loved it from the start. I do not believe that to be possible unless you're an alchoholic before trying it. Anything that you need to have a break in period to enjoy is not considered good in my opinion. I loved first vodka shot,loved second but fifth man.....fifth was terrible taste... :Q | ||
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howerpower
United States619 Posts
On June 17 2011 05:49 Eatme wrote: I only drink around 5times a year so I have no problem giving it up if it would mean irresponsible people would stop drinking too. Would be soo good for the world economy in every way too. Unfortunately this only works in theory as pretty much everyone mentions and argues about. LOL I DONT DRINK SO I DONT CARE IF NO ONE ELSE CAN DRINK. If alcohol became illegal(p.s. you are an idiot if you think that will ever happen), I would be making a ton of money selling homebrew. | ||
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Unifex
United States68 Posts
Call me insensitive. I call it normal. | ||
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Flanlord
265 Posts
To me that seems like arguing that by banning handguns you would reduce pre-meditated murder with guns because you have to be doing more illegal things to do it. Which... on second thought isn't all that illogical, and it isn't like drunk drivers are planning much of anything, let alone manslaughter. I personally do not drink alcohol. I have yet to find one that I like the taste of, and drinking for the sake of getting drunk has always seemed rather stupid to me. I tried it once for a WoW raid because it had become popular, and I can see to some extent the appeal of being drunk if you are interested in gaining the attention of others or being more easily amused, but it serves no real purpose otherwise. I think the easier comparison is to smoking and second hand smoke. Many people smoke (although fewer than drink) and in the past they had a lot more freedom of where they smoked. Over time it became more and more obvious that smoking was bad for you (insert entirely different debate here) and second hand smoke was a public health concern, so laws began cutting back on where people could smoke in public slowly making it harder and harder to smoke. I imagine over time we'll see similar changes made surrounding alcohol, because as much as we love to taut our freedoms, it is hard to come up with a real argument defending the consumption of alcohol. Social progress usually slowly reduces or removes things like that, be it with an alternative, heavier restrictions, higher costs etc. I imagine it'll be substantially slower and still be at least a decade before we really start seeing it for alcohol though because it is consumed everywhere in the world, and is so socially acceptable and ingrained in our culture. | ||
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howerpower
United States619 Posts
On June 17 2011 06:04 Unifex wrote: No, i do not want to be penalized because of other people's problems. Call me insensitive. I call it normal. I think I'll call you sane. | ||
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Dagobert
Netherlands1858 Posts
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LaughingTulkas
United States1107 Posts
What The EFFFFFFFF? 67% of TL would not stop drinking if it meant less deaths?????? I'm guessing all these people are thinking their drinking is not the cause of the deaths and that they would not stop drinking because it wouldn't actually save anybody since they don't drive or whatever, but that's not what the poll says. It says would you stop if it would directly save lives for reasons not stated. I've always drank responsibly and have never been drunk even once (don't feel like pushing those limits) but I would give up drinking if it would save people. Either that poll is very poorly worded and it means something other than what it says, or people are VERY heartless. edit: or people just really like their booze. | ||
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MonsieurGrimm
Canada2441 Posts
On June 17 2011 06:07 Dagobert wrote: Believe me, alcohol isn't the problem. I get even more peaceful when I get drunk. Alcohol is just a catalyst. The real problem is these people's attitudes. pretty much this. the only way to really fix this problem would be to ban idiots, and there's really no way to do that. even without drugs, some people will always have terrible judgement and will cause harm to others. | ||
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Gaga
Germany433 Posts
Maybe less in traffic accidents, but look at mexico and you know why prohibition of any drug won't reduce any deaths. and so your whole argument is pointless. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
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Zechs
United Kingdom321 Posts
It's about socialisation. The idea that it's "cool and manly" to drink and get wrecked is a stain on modern western culture. The fact that the most popular beers - especially in America and the UK - are flavourless piss-water is damning evidence that the "drink to get wasted" attitude is too prevelant. I drink complex-flavoured beers that are more of an acquired taste and i drink them more often than not with other family members or my girlfriend, because i enjoy the taste and the light buzz. It greases the wheels of conversation. The problem isn't alcohol inherantly, the problem is people's attitudes and mis-use. I suggest education and information, as well as clamping down harder on drunken behaviour - especially drink-driving. In the UK we have TV adverts fairly often about drink-driving and i know that in Ireland they have some particularly graphic ones. I'm not convinced about the merits of shock-value but informing people is surely better than being a killjoy for the responsible ones. | ||
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Unhallowed
Canada171 Posts
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Fyodor
Canada971 Posts
I understood the poll and I stand by my vote. There's 6 billion of us and there will be more to come. I'm really not into that business where we need to maximize an already plentiful organism. The statistical analysis for the cost of alcohol is interesting though. I have to agree, however, that the freedom of 13,000 individuals is well worth 1 life. Personally I value my own freedom over everything else. If I had to wipe out an entire country to gain freedom for myself I would. | ||
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UndoneJin
United States438 Posts
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SaLaYa
United States363 Posts
However, I would not give up my rights to drink, I mean if they were taken away by the government. So, in a perfect world where we all agree to not drink, I would give it up. I would not go down peacefully if it was made illegal. | ||
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