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For people to stop derailing the "Bin Laden Is Dead" thread and getting banned even though the mods made it clear that no conspiracy theories are allowed ive created this topic to debate about those conspiracies that have been emerging since the OBL death.
I wanted to make a blog about this, but i cant seem to find where to create a blog so i made this a new topic; anyway there is someone with some status that is willing to stand before a jury about this:
Top Government Insider: Bin Laden Died In 2001
Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations Steve R. Pieczenik says he is prepared to tell a federal grand jury the name of a top general who told him directly 9/11 was a false flag attack
Top US government insider Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, a man who held numerous different influential positions under three different Presidents and still works with the Defense Department, shockingly told The Alex Jones Show yesterday that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 and that he was prepared to testify in front of a grand jury how a top general told him directly that 9/11 was a false flag inside job.
Pieczenik cannot be dismissed as a “conspiracy theorist”. He served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter, while also working under Reagan and Bush senior, and still works as a consultant for the Department of Defense. A former US Navy Captain, Pieczenik achieved two prestigious Harry C. Solomon Awards at the Harvard Medical School as he simultaneously completed a PhD at MIT.
Recruited by Lawrence Eagleburger as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Management, Pieczenik went on to develop, “the basic tenets for psychological warfare, counter terrorism, strategy and tactics for transcultural negotiations for the US State Department, military and intelligence communities and other agencies of the US Government,” while also developing foundational strategies for hostage rescue that were later employed around the world.
http://gregoryfegel.sulekha.com/blog/post/2011/05/former-u-s-deputy-assistant-secretary-of-state-says.htmRead the rest here..
Report: Bin Laden Already Dead
Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader.
"The Coalition troops are engaged in a mad search operation but they would never be able to fulfill their cherished goal of getting Usama alive or dead," the source said.
Bin Laden, according to the source, was suffering from a serious lung complication and succumbed to the disease in mid-December, in the vicinity of the Tora Bora mountains. The source claimed that bin Laden was laid to rest honorably in his last abode and his grave was made as per his Wahabi belief.
About 30 close associates of bin Laden in Al Qaeda, including his most trusted and personal bodyguards, his family members and some "Taliban friends," attended the funeral rites. A volley of bullets was also fired to pay final tribute to the "great leader."
The Taliban source who claims to have seen bin Laden's face before burial said "he looked pale ... but calm, relaxed and confident."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html
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Go to profile -> My blog -> wait 10 seconds -> you've got a blog...
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Maybe aliens abducted him too.
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On May 05 2011 06:16 Souljah wrote:
Maybe aliens abducted him too.
did you read the article?
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There's also an ex official who is unswerving in his assertion that the US government has been in contact with aliens for the past ~60 years. I don't know what the deal with these people is but they're probably simply real life trolls.
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Hey guys, I heard the Moon landing was fake as well. Oh, and Elvis is hiding out in Area 51 with the other 4 JFK shooters.
Just don't tell anyone I said anything.
But really, why would I read some stupid article on a random guy's blog? How can you even consider that to come close to meeting the standards for journalistic integrity? Come on.
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McDonalds doesn't only taste good, but is good for your health.
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On May 05 2011 06:17 hmunkey wrote:
Hey guys, I heard the Moon landing was fake as well. Oh, and Elvis is hiding out in Area 51 with the other 4 JFK shooters.
Just don't tell anyone I said anything.
did you read the article ?
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Well, I don't know about everyone else, but 9/11 being a false flag attack is completely obvious IMO and has been for years. A poll done by CNN showed that something ridiculous like over 70% of Americans believe that 9/11 was all staged. I'll have to go find that source. But as for Bin Laden, I have no idea. No evidence has really shown that he is or isn't dead, other than what the government is telling us.
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I read an article that osamas death would be hard to fake.... let me find it
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I heard he was sippin on margraritas on a beach in Tahiti with his homies tupac and biggie.
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Most conspiracy theories are a bit crazy but its just as crazy to dismiss all of them. Governments have a spy agency for a reason. I personally believe Osama did die, possibly earlier, possibly during the operation. Really though it makes no difference. He already accomplished his goals of destroying Americas economy and rallying Muslims to hate America, albeit indirectly with the help of bush, but he still did it
p.s. maybe people derailing this thread should be a bannable offense for doing the exact same thing they preach in the other thread.
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On May 05 2011 06:19 fellcrow wrote:
A poll done by CNN showed that something ridiculous like over 70% of Americans believe that 9/11 was all staged..
If that is true then wow, simply wow.
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On May 05 2011 06:21 jello_biafra wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 06:19 fellcrow wrote:
A poll done by CNN showed that something ridiculous like over 70% of Americans believe that 9/11 was all staged.. If that is true then wow, simply wow.
They probably gathered all the people they could find wearing tin foil on their head.
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On May 05 2011 06:21 jello_biafra wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 06:19 fellcrow wrote:
A poll done by CNN showed that something ridiculous like over 70% of Americans believe that 9/11 was all staged.. If that is true then wow, simply wow.
It's not, it's making up numbers as usual.
By far, the vast majority of Americans believe that 9/11 was a terrorist attack
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On May 05 2011 06:20 sekritzzz wrote:
p.s. maybe people derailing this thread should be a bannable offense for doing the exact same thing they preach in the other thread.
This was what I was thinking.
The major problem I'm having with the whole "He was already dead"-thing is that Bush would have published it because 1. It boosts ratings and 2. It's awesome to have on your records, as Obama will now have. I'm not sure how you're going to dismiss this. If it's "Well Bush didn't know about it!" then you probably need to throw away the constitution and the whole government apparatus and create something new, should it be true.
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I'm fairly sure that "The Alex Jones Show" as a source to your post invalidates the remainder of your post as hogwash. It's like sourcing The National Enquirer.
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On May 05 2011 06:20 sekritzzz wrote:
Most conspiracy theories are a bit crazy but its just as crazy to dismiss all of them. Governments have a spy agency for a reason.
p.s. maybe people derailing this thread should be a bannable offense for doing the exact same thing they preach in the other thread.
Second this. Also, a link to the information on how American's feel about 9/11 http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/October2006/141006poll.htm
If you do ANY research on the 9/11 attacks, it is blatantly obvious that the American government did it. At least IMO it is pretty fucking obvious. But, do the research for yourself and don't trust me. And Bin Laden is such a controversial issue on whether to release a picture of his corpse. I have heard talk shows talking about it. I mean we can assume conspiracy, been dead or isn't dead. Just a big news story for American patriotism. OR It could be true and the truth is Obama doesn't wanna release the pictures of a bullet ridden corpse of the leader of the largest terrorist movement in the world.... So it's hard to say for me.
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who cares about bin laden anyway ? wish they gave us back 2pac and michael jackson instead of killing this retard.
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On May 05 2011 06:23 HellRoxYa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 06:20 sekritzzz wrote:
p.s. maybe people derailing this thread should be a bannable offense for doing the exact same thing they preach in the other thread. This was what I was thinking. The major problem I'm having with the whole "He was already dead"-thing is that Bush would have published it because 1. It boosts ratings and 2. It's awesome to have on your records, as Obama will now have. I'm not sure how you're going to dismiss this. If it's "Well Bush didn't know about it!" then you probably need to throw away the constitution and the whole government apparatus and create something new, should it be true.
what do you think about the article in the OP ? I will be waiting if the guy rly goes forward O_o
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