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On April 27 2011 12:24 iNcontroL wrote: alright sorry guys had no idea I kicked a bees nest I'm quite sure the only bees nest here was your jimmies which were rustled thoroughly by two replays, I think an apology to water is due here looking forward to seeing you on sotg though ily <3
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Incontrol is fine, he just doesn't like the idea of posting a replay pack with games that don't show much or anything to learn from. why so many people so critical of incontrol he's doing the best he can.
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"hey guis i lik luv to argue wit ppl cuz iM gud at it and if dat guy is a pro den fuk me its an erly xmas!!!"
blur - 2011
User was temp banned for this post.
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Why are people so ungrateful
Water posted a replay pack, and his style of play is all-inning people and timing pushes, which obviously works since hes in the top 200. If you're playing in a tournament its always good to have an all-in or two up your sleeve to fuck with your opponent.
He called out Incontrol by putting his name in bold underlined letters! which suggests that the games were long and epic, and incontrol said that they were short timing attacks, then blur started arguing with him and everything exploded.
Chill out and enjoy the replays
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Awesome dude, thanks for the pack need to work on my terran, saw you on ret/idra's stream a few times :>
too bad incontrol decided to derail the thread since he feels the need to defend himself when someone posts a rep of him losing (even though he does the same thing)
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On April 27 2011 12:35 Maliris wrote:Awesome dude, thanks for the pack  need to work on my terran, saw you on ret/idra's stream a few times :> too bad incontrol decided to derail the thread since he feels the need to defend himself when someone posts a rep of him losing (even though he does the same thing)
It wasn't because he lost the game, it was because the games which he lost was only 9 minutes and wasn't a very good game...
The logic follows that LiquidWater first priority wasn't to post good games, just games where he beats famous people. EDIT: That's why iNcontrol was mad.
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On April 27 2011 12:38 Barca wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2011 12:35 Maliris wrote:Awesome dude, thanks for the pack  need to work on my terran, saw you on ret/idra's stream a few times :> too bad incontrol decided to derail the thread since he feels the need to defend himself when someone posts a rep of him losing (even though he does the same thing) It wasn't because he lost the game, it was because the games which he lost was only 9 minutes and wasn't a very good game... The logic follows that LiquidWater first priority wasn't to post good games, just games where he beats famous people. Who says it wasn't a GG? because it was a short game? Personally i enjoyed it. incontrol knows as good as anyone that no rush 20 isn't how SC2 is played (TLO point in case.)
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On April 27 2011 12:38 Barca wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2011 12:35 Maliris wrote:Awesome dude, thanks for the pack  need to work on my terran, saw you on ret/idra's stream a few times :> too bad incontrol decided to derail the thread since he feels the need to defend himself when someone posts a rep of him losing (even though he does the same thing) It wasn't because he lost the game, it was because the games which he lost was only 9 minutes and wasn't a very good game... The logic follows that LiquidWater first priority wasn't to post good games, just games where he beats famous people.
My first priority was to post interesting games for either entertainment, or learning value. I accomplished this by posting games that A.) Would be interesting because of the participants, and B.) by posting games where I did a specific strat and it succeeded, so people could either learn from the build at a terrans perspective, or how to defend them.
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Is there any games people would recommend? all i found were SCV allins and other weird timings. It's definitely amusing but i was hoping to find longer games
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On April 27 2011 12:35 13_Doomblaze_37 wrote: Why are people so ungrateful
Water posted a replay pack, and his style of play is all-inning people and timing pushes, which obviously works since hes in the top 200. If you're playing in a tournament its always good to have an all-in or two up your sleeve to fuck with your opponent.
He called out Incontrol by putting his name in bold underlined letters! which suggests that the games were long and epic, and incontrol said that they were short timing attacks, then blur started arguing with him and everything exploded.
Chill out and enjoy the replays
I actually bolded and underlined them as a joke after he gave me a hard time, not before he posted, but after.
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I also vs'd this guy in a CW. He all'in'd me as well lols. Well on topic in the replay pack is there any replays of you losing as you allin? Would be interested to see some games where you lose so I can analyze what the zerg did correctly, because terran all-ins are a bit sketchy for me right now.
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My name if I was on the Liquid Team would be Liquid'Diarrhea
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On April 27 2011 12:40 Leet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2011 12:38 Barca wrote:On April 27 2011 12:35 Maliris wrote:Awesome dude, thanks for the pack  need to work on my terran, saw you on ret/idra's stream a few times :> too bad incontrol decided to derail the thread since he feels the need to defend himself when someone posts a rep of him losing (even though he does the same thing) It wasn't because he lost the game, it was because the games which he lost was only 9 minutes and wasn't a very good game... The logic follows that LiquidWater first priority wasn't to post good games, just games where he beats famous people. My first priority was to post interesting games for either entertainment, or learning value. I accomplished this by posting games that A.) Would be interesting because of the participants, and B.) by posting games where I did a specific strat and it succeeded, so people could either learn from the build at a terrans perspective, or how to defend them. However, there's a flaw there. GSL, NASL and IPL all have big names, they don't produce entertaining games or interesting just because of the names. See IdrA vs fenix in IPL for example or check the polls of all the recent days of the GSL and see if all have a resounding "yes" in the recommended games option. No offense, but some of the replays there just remind many of TSL_Rains and Bitbybitprime.WE, and well, you tell me if they are the most entertaining players in an overall community consensus. I'm sorry but more than half of the games weren't interesting, at all.
But you sounding so convinced that those games were entertaining and the fact you didn't think of a fourth option in the poll like "None seemed that good, interesting or w/e" reinforces that belief, which lead people like Incontrol and some others to a seemingly accurate perception you did this just to brag about beating some of the names we see in the aforeimented leagues.
I agree terrans may benefit from these somewhat refined build orders and strategies, but for any mid diamond and lower player it'll still come down to what both Artosis and Day[9] have already said plenty of times, you either overreact to an all-in or you lose. The refinement of the timings is something you don't see in neither player at this level, not very often at least.
I would re-check that "accomplished" if I were you, y'know, just so you don't come off as a dick who thinks his games are entertaining per se and not because the community gives you that answer.
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On April 27 2011 08:47 iNcontroL wrote: we played 2 games and you rushed 4 medivacs and "a" moved to win
O_O
I love how you always get butt hurt about things like this lol
Lighten up dude.. you give it, learn to take it
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On April 27 2011 12:26 Heaton31 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2011 12:24 iNcontroL wrote: alright sorry guys had no idea I kicked a bees nest Why apologize? Was a good discussion. Better than 20 posts of a 'cool, thanks dude!' before the thread got buried. Now more people will want to DL the reps. You actually did him a favor.
Hahaha, this is so true.
Thanks for reps (:
incontrol man i dont think you should be harping on people for posting reps of you losing, its gonna happen especially since you are a well known figure now
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On April 27 2011 12:52 Mephiztopheles1 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2011 12:40 Leet wrote:On April 27 2011 12:38 Barca wrote:On April 27 2011 12:35 Maliris wrote:Awesome dude, thanks for the pack  need to work on my terran, saw you on ret/idra's stream a few times :> too bad incontrol decided to derail the thread since he feels the need to defend himself when someone posts a rep of him losing (even though he does the same thing) It wasn't because he lost the game, it was because the games which he lost was only 9 minutes and wasn't a very good game... The logic follows that LiquidWater first priority wasn't to post good games, just games where he beats famous people. My first priority was to post interesting games for either entertainment, or learning value. I accomplished this by posting games that A.) Would be interesting because of the participants, and B.) by posting games where I did a specific strat and it succeeded, so people could either learn from the build at a terrans perspective, or how to defend them. However, there's a flaw there. GSL, NASL and IPL all have big names, they don't produce entertaining games or interesting just because of the names. See IdrA vs fenix in IPL for example or check the polls of all the recent days of the GSL and see if all have a resounding "yes" in the recommended games option. No offense, but some of the replays there just remind many of TSL_Rains and Bitbybitprime.WE, and well, you tell me if they are the most entertaining players in an overall community consensus. I'm sorry but more than half of the games weren't interesting, at all. But you sounding so convinced that those games were entertaining and the fact you didn't think of a fourth option in the poll like "None seemed that good, interesting or w/e" reinforces that belief, which lead people like Incontrol and some others to a seemingly accurate perception you did this just to brag about beating some of the names we see in the aforeimented leagues. I agree terrans may benefit from these somewhat refined build orders and strategies, but for any mid diamond and lower player it'll still come down to what both Artosis and Day[9] have already said plenty of times, you either overreact to an all-in or you lose. The refinement of the timings is something you don't see in neither player at this level, not very often at least. I would re-check that "accomplished" if I were you, y'know, just so you don't come off as a dick who thinks his games are entertaining per se and not because the community gives you that answer.
Just a real quick comment on this wall of text. A.) Me not putting in a negative poll for my thread is intuitive, it doesn't prove anything at all. B.) A good portion of these players have fans, and I enjoy watching games of my "Heroes" to see how they react to certain situations, whether they're interesting or not to every person in the world is irrelevant.
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On April 27 2011 08:34 NotPicard wrote: Looked at a few of those replays, very very well done.
I enjoyed it while learning some things =)
You sir are my muse. Baller status awarded.
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On April 27 2011 12:04 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2011 11:44 MadCatZ wrote:On April 27 2011 08:47 iNcontroL wrote: we played 2 games and you rushed 4 medivacs and "a" moved to win
O_O
a win is a win incontrol if you couldnt answer to it you lost to it now man up take your loss You guys are dumb lol I DID take my loss.. I have no fucking problem with losing. They were dumb games so posting the reps is stupid.. how the hell is this an odd concept to you guys? If they were half way decent games I'd have 0 problem lol People are bringing up TLO, Ensnare wtf? I can never have an issue with anyone because everyone knows my life story lol
Aren't you supposed to be an adult and a public figure for the NASL tournament? I do not see the point in you having to resort to cursing in your posts at people who are probably years younger then you. Just do not reply at all. All you are doing at the moment is hurting your image.
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k who do I have to blow to get baller status
oh and thanks for the relays , I'm toss so ill be trying to pick them apart for good timing windows
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lol almost all of the replays are below 15 minutes. But nonetheless I learned a few things about some of the build you've done. The one with ROOTCatz was pretty funny. I'm gonna take the your 2 port banshee build but I'll make it less all innish thanks!
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