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Angry.Zerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico305 Posts
May 09 2011 05:01 GMT
#941
Nestea >>>>>>>> July = Losira >>>> Every one else.

Also it would be nice to mention FruitDealer should be a contender, since he was the first person to give hope to the Swarm. Yes, he has been playing very sloppy... but imo, he has accomplished more than IdrA.
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Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
May 09 2011 05:09 GMT
#942
Nesta > Losira > Idra/July
GMonster
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
686 Posts
May 09 2011 05:23 GMT
#943
I'm pretty sure if we had this vote about 2 days ago intstead of a week ago the results of this poll would be different. But there won't be a Zerg king for a while. Even if Nestea wins a second GSL. Fan base polls change after every win / loss lol.

IN terms of money earned playing SC2
Nestea>Fruitdealer>IdrA>July>
In Terms of Placement in the GSL
Nestea>Fruitdealer>July>Losira=IdrA
In Terms of Fan's
IdrA=Nestea

Right now there is no Zerg King. Terran's have a King for right now and thats MVP. Bomber is closing in on him and MKP has his followers but 90% of Terrans agree its MVP leading he way. As far as Protoss King, a lot will say MC. (I personally don't think he is) But stats will argue against that.
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Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 05:30:00
May 09 2011 05:28 GMT
#944
On May 09 2011 14:23 GoKu` wrote:
I'm pretty sure if we had this vote about 2 days ago intstead of a week ago the results of this poll would be different. But there won't be a Zerg king for a while. Even if Nestea wins a second GSL. Fan base polls change after every win / loss lol.

IN terms of money earned playing SC2
Nestea>Fruitdealer>IdrA>July>
In Terms of Placement in the GSL
Nestea>Fruitdealer>July>Losira=IdrA
In Terms of Fan's
IdrA=Nestea

Right now there is no Zerg King. Terran's have a King for right now and thats MVP. Bomber is closing in on him and MKP has his followers but 90% of Terrans agree its MVP leading he way. As far as Protoss King, a lot will say MC. (I personally don't think he is) But stats will argue against that.


So I assume you are saying that there is no "Protoss King" because otherwise I'd ne interested to hear who you think is even close. MC seems to be way ahead of all the other protoss players. Then again I would say his results alone mean he is the current "Protoss King." If he is significantly better than the rest, it just seems like the right title for him. Who else do you feel is close or deserving?
tyrless
Profile Joined July 2010
United States485 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 05:31:34
May 09 2011 05:29 GMT
#945
It's good that most people recognize, at this time, the king's throne remains vacant. NesTea ditched that shit 2 days ago when he transcended into the Zerg God, aka Boss Zerg.

Right now July, Sen, Dimaga, and Losira are in a blood feud for the king's throne and their Lord's grace.
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
May 09 2011 05:30 GMT
#946
On May 09 2011 14:29 tyrless wrote:
It's good that most people recognize, at this time, the king's throne remains vacant. NesTea ditched that shit 2 days ago when he transcended into the Zerg God, aka Boss Zerg.


Let's see how long he can hold the throne ;D
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tyrless
Profile Joined July 2010
United States485 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 05:32:51
May 09 2011 05:32 GMT
#947
oops double post
Jeremyy
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada182 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 05:43:54
May 09 2011 05:36 GMT
#948
On May 09 2011 14:23 GoKu` wrote:
I'm pretty sure if we had this vote about 2 days ago intstead of a week ago the results of this poll would be different. But there won't be a Zerg king for a while. Even if Nestea wins a second GSL. Fan base polls change after every win / loss lol.

IN terms of money earned playing SC2
Nestea>Fruitdealer>IdrA>July>
In Terms of Placement in the GSL
Nestea>Fruitdealer>July>Losira=IdrA
In Terms of Fan's
IdrA=Nestea

Right now there is no Zerg King. Terran's have a King for right now and thats MVP. Bomber is closing in on him and MKP has his followers but 90% of Terrans agree its MVP leading he way. As far as Protoss King, a lot will say MC. (I personally don't think he is) But stats will argue against that.


Bolded improper use of apostrophes (Hint: not apostrophe's).
Where's the pleasure in that?
LzH.stOry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States35 Posts
May 09 2011 05:56 GMT
#949
On May 09 2011 13:55 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 13:11 goddess wrote:
Losira, idra, nestea, sen

1 losira's revolutionized the aggressive high eco zvp, his macro is insane, idra once related losira's style to his, but i think losira is more aggressive which i like

2 idra- he's fucking idra. he recognizes builds and timings far better than anyone else (maybe nestea)

3 nestea's game was great, but he made some poor decisions when he was ahead to set him that far behind.


I would argue that July was the first to show the long-term viability of aggressive zerg play, and Losira just tempered it into a more economic bent to play to his strengths.

Difference is July just makes units at random times sand attacks, he plays quite blind. If you watch vods, he will just usually get behind, make units and kill or die.
Crossfire vs huk was impressive though.
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ZergMaestro
Profile Joined January 2011
United States169 Posts
May 09 2011 05:59 GMT
#950
Can we have a Zerg king for each continent?

Its so hard to just pick one.
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DexVitality
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Hong Kong234 Posts
May 09 2011 07:15 GMT
#951
It has to be Nestea.... no one else is on the same level right now. Just watch the GSL VODs to see.
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Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
May 09 2011 07:28 GMT
#952
Nestea is by far the best Zerg out there, it's not even close. He has the best macro (alongside IdrA), the best unit control in offence (alongside Losira) and the area he really dominates all other Zergs is in defending pushes, Nestea on defence is just ridiculous, I've no idea how he holds some of the things he does.

Not only does he have the best play, he's had the most success to go with it with one GSL win (fingers crossed that's soon two) a GSL round of 4, a round of 8 and at least another final.

There is just no justification at all of putting any other Zergs, Korean or foreign on Nestea's level.

On May 09 2011 14 goddess wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 13:55 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On May 09 2011 13:11 goddess wrote:
Losira, idra, nestea, sen

1 losira's revolutionized the aggressive high eco zvp, his macro is insane, idra once related losira's style to his, but i think losira is more aggressive which i like

2 idra- he's fucking idra. he recognizes builds and timings far better than anyone else (maybe nestea)

3 nestea's game was great, but he made some poor decisions when he was ahead to set him that far behind.


I would argue that July was the first to show the long-term viability of aggressive zerg play, and Losira just tempered it into a more economic bent to play to his strengths.

Difference is July just makes units at random times sand attacks, he plays quite blind. If you watch vods, he will just usually get behind, make units and kill or die.
Crossfire vs huk was impressive though.


Don't agree with that. In my opinion he just has insane game sense for when he sees a viable opening. Most July losses involve him getting hit by timing pushes, the vast majority of his big "it's time" all in/pushes are successful.

Where July lacks is in Nestea's "I defend four warp gate with one zergling and a spore crawler" defence.
Takuna
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany332 Posts
May 09 2011 07:34 GMT
#953


Where July lacks is in Nestea's "I defend four warp gate with one zergling and a spore crawler" defence.


It was five gate+stargate if i remember correctly, but if he did that vs a real player and not choya even Nestea would have lost that.
But I do agree that Nestea has some sick defensive play as zerg, he is the king of Zerg right now.
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Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
May 09 2011 07:35 GMT
#954
On May 09 2011 16:28 Blasphemi wrote:
Nestea is by far the best Zerg out there, it's not even close. He has the best macro (alongside IdrA), the best unit control in offence (alongside Losira) and the area he really dominates all other Zergs is in defending pushes, Nestea on defence is just ridiculous, I've no idea how he holds some of the things he does.

Nestea and Losira's unit control is actually kinda bad ;p Idra probably has the best muta control I've seen, but he still falters with ling/bane/infestor sometimes. I don't think there's any Zerg out there that has top notch control yet .
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Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 07:41:18
May 09 2011 07:40 GMT
#955
On May 09 2011 16 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              09 2011 16      end_of_the_skype_highlighting Tachion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 16:28 Blasphemi wrote:
Nestea is by far the best Zerg out there, it's not even close. He has the best macro (alongside IdrA), the best unit control in offence (alongside Losira) and the area he really dominates all other Zergs is in defending pushes, Nestea on defence is just ridiculous, I've no idea how he holds some of the things he does.

Nestea and Losira's unit control is actually kinda bad ;p Idra probably has the best muta control I've seen, but he still falters with ling/bane/infestor sometimes. I don't think there's any Zerg out there that has top notch control yet .


July probably has the best Mutalisk micro, but Nestea's splits banelings and fungals better than anyone.

On May 09 2011 16 Takuna wrote:
Show nested quote +


Where July lacks is in Nestea's "I defend four warp gate with one zergling and a spore crawler" defence.


It was five gate+stargate if i remember correctly, but if he did that vs a real player and not choya even Nestea would have lost that.
But I do agree that Nestea has some sick defensive play as zerg, he is the king of Zerg right now.


Choya is still a Korean grand masters level player and I'm confident every Zerg in the world except Nestea would have lost to that push at the time.

Just look at those SC pushes in games 2/5 the other day, there's very, very few Zergs (arguably none) who wouldn't have lost those games, SC 3-0'd Losira for a reason.
AmunEli
Profile Joined August 2010
United States35 Posts
May 09 2011 08:33 GMT
#956
NesTea = King of the East
IdrA = King of the West

Bias goes (rightfully) to the East. Entirely possible that IdrA could pull an upset, but not probable given strength of current competition and history.
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thesums
Profile Joined December 2010
Taiwan257 Posts
May 10 2011 08:46 GMT
#957
i dont understand why idra has more votes than someone like Julyzerg, its like popularity vote and does not even relate to the actual results and achievements
Phenny
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1435 Posts
May 10 2011 08:49 GMT
#958
I think Nestea has it atm for sure, though I want July to take it :D :D

Also I'm an IdrA fanboy so it'd be cool for him to become a stronger contender for it also.
Zog
Profile Joined September 2010
57 Posts
May 10 2011 09:23 GMT
#959
On May 10 2011 17:46 thesums wrote:
i dont understand why idra has more votes than someone like Julyzerg, its like popularity vote and does not even relate to the actual results and achievements


Yes, that's it exactly. LoL at idra 2nd place. I'm not even sure he is the 'King of the West'.
JKira
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1002 Posts
May 10 2011 09:31 GMT
#960
On May 10 2011 18:23 Zog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 17:46 thesums wrote:
i dont understand why idra has more votes than someone like Julyzerg, its like popularity vote and does not even relate to the actual results and achievements


Yes, that's it exactly. LoL at idra 2nd place. I'm not even sure he is the 'King of the West'.


It might be debatable for him to be second place, but I don't see how it's debatable that he's the King of the West. Who in NA is better?
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