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On January 20 2011 22:00 Qzy wrote:
Blizz already stated there's a problem with TvP, and they were looking into it. Toss will most likely get a buff, or terran a nerf.
Terran is just 10% OP and in the top field these sort of procentage is huge.
They are actually going to nerf protoss rofl....
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Some map positions favour Terran, I think this is part of their GSL success.
However, Zerg and Toss players are definitely underperforming, and due to their races being less represented, this results in a perceived 'Terran dominance'.
Players like Kyrix, Zenio, Tester, HongUn have all shown flashes of brilliance, but nothing consistently good. With the exception of Nestea and maybe MC, the other two races lack top-tier players which can match that of Terran.
Perhaps that is due to the inherent racial properties, perhaps not.
On a side note, I think (not certain) the regular TL forum posters represent a different racial spread, with more zergs, then toss, then terran (at least according to the voting trends - 'what race do you play'). This would explain why we see more Zerg-derived QQ followed by Toss.
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Zergs get affirmative action, Terrans get taxxed extra to support the whinging Zerg babies.
And then the Zergs STILL hate the Terrans anyway, even though they have the gobsmacking rudeness to try to invade in the Terran Chapter of the game.
Wait for your turn Zergs, more and more of you keep flooding into our Ladders, soon there wont even be any Terrans left, but still the Terrans can't fight back because they will be called "racist" because it's now a social norm for Terrans to be dominated in public speaking. Standing up for your rights as a Terran is seen as oppressing the minorities.
The Subversion continues
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This is like top whinning op-up hate terran topic EVER.
How is it still not closed ?
Actually terran is doing nice because mvp mkp jinro and nada are beasts
sc2 is like chess, u cant blame your pieces for you failure
plz guys be more mcish and less idraish...
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My predicition is that with the new maps we will see a huge drop of Terrans at the top. Most Terrans play very aggressiv these days which wont be as good as with larger maps. And to those people saying Terrans early all-ins are to strong: Is the same all-in of Terrans as strong on Meta Cross as on Steppes? No. So blame the Maps.
And about drops: If you are afraid of them just counter them..srsly..
Drops getting really annoying and dangerous when your army is not in range of your base which is more likely mid-/endgame. At this time of the game for goods sake just invest a few hundreds of minerals to defend drops at possible drop locations (speaking about turrets,crawlers,cannons). You will 1) have no losses in production facilities or workers (if u lose just 5 workers its far more of a loss than 5 turrets or whatever), 2) You wont be afraid of them =>psychologic calm, 3) You dont have to handle them micro whise which would put you behind in macro aswell.
I know that there are a few maps where its easier to handle drops with turrets etc (xel naga) and harder ones (shakuras?) but that again is a map thing.
Just my opinion
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On January 20 2011 22:40 Scrimpton wrote:
Zergs get affirmative action, Terrans get taxxed extra to support the whinging Zerg babies.
And then the Zergs STILL hate the Terrans anyway, even though they have the gobsmacking rudeness to try to invade in the Terran Chapter of the game.
Wait for your turn Zergs, more and more of you keep flooding into our Ladders, soon there wont even be any Terrans left, but still the Terrans can't fight back because they will be called "racist" because it's now a social norm for Terrans to be dominated in public speaking. Standing up for your rights as a Terran is seen as oppressing the minorities.
The Subversion continues
errm okay, this would be so funny if it wasn't serious
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Terrans complaining about racism now? Gotta love Teamliquid. 
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On January 20 2011 22:44 5unrise wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2011 22:40 Scrimpton wrote:
Zergs get affirmative action, Terrans get taxxed extra to support the whinging Zerg babies.
And then the Zergs STILL hate the Terrans anyway, even though they have the gobsmacking rudeness to try to invade in the Terran Chapter of the game.
Wait for your turn Zergs, more and more of you keep flooding into our Ladders, soon there wont even be any Terrans left, but still the Terrans can't fight back because they will be called "racist" because it's now a social norm for Terrans to be dominated in public speaking. Standing up for your rights as a Terran is seen as oppressing the minorities.
The Subversion continues
errm okay, this would be so funny if it wasn't serious
it was actually 100% funny =S
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On January 20 2011 22:43 noD wrote:
This is like top whinning op-up hate terran topic EVER.
How is it still not closed ?
Actually terran is doing nice because mvp mkp jinro and nada are beasts
sc2 is like chess, u cant blame your pieces for you failure
plz guys be more mcish and less idraish...
Because discussing balance isn't against the rules - people just tend to do it in the wrong places.
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probably need to add the point terran had an strong opening that was considered imbalanced during the beta and so the other races were played less during the first gsls (and mostly went into matches against terrans with the i am underpowered, which was resulting into alot of mind game losses for the other 2 races in the qualifiers).
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Its a combination between Map Imbalance and the quality of the players that switched over from other games and are now playing terran.
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I think a good break down to look at is when the game end. I would speculate that terran games are ending in the early game where as protoss and zerg v T games end in the late game.
I wish blizzard would release more stats.
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On January 20 2011 22:43 noD wrote:
This is like top whinning op-up hate terran topic EVER.
How is it still not closed ?
Actually terran is doing nice because mvp mkp jinro and nada are beasts
sc2 is like chess, u cant blame your pieces for you failure
plz guys be more mcish and less idraish...
wtf sc2 isn't like chess >_>;; what are you talking about... In chess the two sides are the same, except black follows white, so ofc you can't blame your pieces in chess. I can blame my hydralisks.. however.
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Where's the "it's not imbalanced at all" option?
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On January 20 2011 22:55 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
Where's the "it's not imbalanced at all" option?
the 3rd one, oh and the 4th one >_>;;
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Small maps. Very powerful t1 and t1.5 units when compared to other races. Add marauder slow against protoss and bunkers against zerg.
Most protoss' lose becouse of 1 early battle becouse they weren't at the best possible location and weren't able to retreat as they would lose they whole army anyway. Zergs are usually bunker rushed and early pressured so they are so far behind that comeback is almost impossible.
However if terran doesn't do that they usually lose in end game to both races. It's just retarded at the moment. Short games are one sided rushing in terran favor and in long games terran is slaughtered 95% of time. PvZ is the only good matchup currently in my opinion.
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On January 20 2011 19:17 stinger_ro wrote:
Right now Terran is not as mobile as the other races imho - but isn't affected since the maps are small.
I agree with all of this.
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It IMO is a mixture of map pool and overall T population in the GSL.
Also some players just defend poorly on the smaller maps.
FF in front of an attack then their zelots to get slaughtered by the FF that are supposed to help your army. Just overall bad gameplay causes for many losses on smaller maps.
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On January 20 2011 22:40 Scrimpton wrote:
Zergs get affirmative action, Terrans get taxxed extra to support the whinging Zerg babies.
And then the Zergs STILL hate the Terrans anyway, even though they have the gobsmacking rudeness to try to invade in the Terran Chapter of the game.
Wait for your turn Zergs, more and more of you keep flooding into our Ladders, soon there wont even be any Terrans left, but still the Terrans can't fight back because they will be called "racist" because it's now a social norm for Terrans to be dominated in public speaking. Standing up for your rights as a Terran is seen as oppressing the minorities.
The Subversion continues
what are you talking about? terrans have been the most used race since ever and no GSL results changed that
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