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NoobieOne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1183 Posts
January 08 2011 21:43 GMT
#261
Ok so my main question is why wasn't there a policeman there? When a congressman visited my High School in upstate New York there was an extra policeman there that day. Meanwhile this is a public meeting in the wide open and the congresswoman was almost hated by the local population.
Faranth
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
933 Posts
January 08 2011 21:45 GMT
#262
--- Nuked ---
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
January 08 2011 21:46 GMT
#263
I just watched his videos. He is insane.

This is what he said in video descriptions:

+ Show Spoiler +

"If you're editing of every belief and religion reaches the final century then the writer for every belief and religion is you.

You're editing of every belief and religion reaches the final century.

Thus, the writer for every belief and religion is you.

You control every -- thought, action, and lifestyle -- for the person or people as the mind controller.

I'm able to control every belief and religion by being the mind controller."


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"Fraud
If I'm not receiving the purchase from a payment then I'm a victim of fraud. I'm not receiving the purchase from a payment. Therefore, I'm a victim of fraud.

All purchases for an educational course in The United States as of now are unconstitutional in the United States of America because of Section 10 in the United States of America's Constitution. A student paying for a Pima Community College course is a purchase for an educational course in the United States as of now. Therefore, a student paying for a Pima Community College course is unconstitutional in the United States of America because of Section 10 in the United States of America's Constitution.

If you're receiving a grade from Pima Community College class then the grade you're receiving is unconstitutional because of the United States Bill of Rights. You're receiving a grade from Pima Community College class. Therefore, the grade you're receiving is unconstitutional because of the United States Bill of Rights. The grading you purchase from Pima Community College is unconstitutional at tuition.

The United States Department of Education is allowing unconstitutional education facility's to operate or the United States Department of Education is allowing free constitutional education facility's to operate. The United States Department of Education isn't allowing unconstitutional education facility's to operate. Thus, the United States Department of Education is allowing free constitutional education facility's to operate.

If the police remove you from the educational facility for talking then removing you from the educational facility for talking is unconstitutional in the United States. The police remove you from the educational facility for talking. Thus, removing you from the educational facility for talking is unconstitutional in the United States. This situation is fraud because the police are unconstitutional!

Every police officer in the United States as of now is unconstitutionally working. Pima Community College police are police in the United States. Therefore, Pima Community College police are unconstitutionally working. The police are unconstitutionally working!

All United States of America's college programs are unconstitutional colleges that's in accordance with the United States of America's Constitution. Pima Community College is a United States of America's college program. Hence, Pima Community College is an unconstitutional college that's in accordance with the United States of America's Constitution.

Every Pima Community College class is using free sources for education from the internet. Algebra is a Pima Community College class. Thus, Algebra is a free source for education from the internet. Every Pima Community College class is always a scam!

If you're literate in English grammar then you know English grammar. You don't know English grammar. Thus, you're not literate in English grammar. Most of the teachers and students at Pima Community College are illiterate.

If I'm thinking of adding the 1 new symbol and number to the current alphabet and number system then I'm thinking of creating 1 new symbol and number to the current alphabet and number system. I'm thinking of adding the 1 new symbol and number to the current alphabet and number system. Thus, I'm thinking of creating 1 new symbol and number to the current alphabet and number system. You control the grammar!

Don't be scared to know you can't find the location of a subject: Most students can't locate a subject! Most people know all the subjects are for mind control and brainwash! The students are unconstitutionally paying for free education! The students are attending a torture facility! You know the teachers are con artists?

You now know - every college's unconstitutional crime! You shouldn't pay unconstitutional money for free speech! Don't trust the current government, listener!"
zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
January 08 2011 21:49 GMT
#264
I still feel like we are missing some details. Was there no struggle as the guy put a gun to each persons head? How can people stand around as he executes a child? Why was security not there? I feel like anytime a political figure goes out in public they should have security.

Crazy.
Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crown and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness.
RisingTide
Profile Joined December 2008
Australia769 Posts
January 08 2011 21:53 GMT
#265
On January 09 2011 06:49 zerglingsfolife wrote:
I still feel like we are missing some details. Was there no struggle as the guy put a gun to each persons head? How can people stand around as he executes a child? Why was security not there? I feel like anytime a political figure goes out in public they should have security.

Crazy.


He didn't shoot everyone deliberately in the head. It seems like he fired somewhat indiscriminately into the crowd before anyone was really able to respond.
toadstool
Profile Joined May 2006
Australia421 Posts
January 08 2011 21:53 GMT
#266
On January 09 2011 06:49 zerglingsfolife wrote:
I still feel like we are missing some details. Was there no struggle as the guy put a gun to each persons head? How can people stand around as he executes a child? Why was security not there? I feel like anytime a political figure goes out in public they should have security.

Crazy.



The Democrat, who was re-elected to her third term in November, was hosting her first "Congress on Your Corner" event at the Safeway in northwest Tucson when a gunman ran up and started shooting, according to Peter Michaels, news director of Arizona Public Media.

At least five other people, including members of her staff, were hurt. Giffords was transported to University Medical Center in Tucson. Her condition was not immediately known.

Giffords was talking to a couple when the man ran up firing indiscriminately, and then ran off, Michaels said. According to other witnesses, he was tackled by a bystander and taken into custody.


what have you been reading??
NEWB?!
zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
January 08 2011 21:53 GMT
#267
On January 09 2011 06:53 RisingTide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 06:49 zerglingsfolife wrote:
I still feel like we are missing some details. Was there no struggle as the guy put a gun to each persons head? How can people stand around as he executes a child? Why was security not there? I feel like anytime a political figure goes out in public they should have security.

Crazy.


He didn't shoot everyone deliberately in the head. It seems like he fired somewhat indiscriminately into the crowd before anyone was really able to respond.


Ahh, maybe you're right. The guy on Fox was saying he put a gun to each persons head.
Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crown and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 08 2011 21:55 GMT
#268
Shooter?

[image loading]

Tucson Festival of Books

Mamta Popat/Arizona Daily Star Jackie Storrer, right, tries her best to figure out the clues on a giant crossword as Jared Loughner, a volunteer, stands in the background during the Tucson Festival of Books.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-08 21:58:16
January 08 2011 21:56 GMT
#269
On January 09 2011 06:49 zerglingsfolife wrote:
I still feel like we are missing some details. Was there no struggle as the guy put a gun to each persons head? How can people stand around as he executes a child? Why was security not there? I feel like anytime a political figure goes out in public they should have security.

Crazy.


Lack of security is probably a major issue we'll hear about soon.

But as for the lack of reaction, scratch it up to panic. If the shooter quietly walks up to the congresswoman, take the first shot, then turns to the crowd and begins to spray bullets. Most people instinctively run and duck for cover. They're not going to jump up and try to stop the person with the gun. It's not people idly stand around while a child gets shot. They don't also want to be shot in the process of stopping him.

edit: and yeah, it seems he was quickly tackled down after people saw he was out of bullets.
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NoobieOne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1183 Posts
January 08 2011 21:57 GMT
#270
On January 09 2011 06:53 zerglingsfolife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 06:53 RisingTide wrote:
On January 09 2011 06:49 zerglingsfolife wrote:
I still feel like we are missing some details. Was there no struggle as the guy put a gun to each persons head? How can people stand around as he executes a child? Why was security not there? I feel like anytime a political figure goes out in public they should have security.

Crazy.


He didn't shoot everyone deliberately in the head. It seems like he fired somewhat indiscriminately into the crowd before anyone was really able to respond.


Ahh, maybe you're right. The guy on Fox was saying he put a gun to each persons head.


I'm Not going to make a comment on the reliability of fox news here.

Still I totally agree that there should have been security there.
Taguchi
Profile Joined February 2003
Greece1575 Posts
January 08 2011 21:58 GMT
#271
if that youtube channel is his... those are the ravings of a madman

i am sorry i feel the need to make this comment, but there really is no better place to start.. current gun control very definitely contributed to this, a crazy person just cannot easily get guns in a country where owning guns is illegal
even criminals dont just hand guns to insane people extremists sure, but not actually insane people
Great minds might think alike, but fastest hands rule the day~
zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
January 08 2011 21:58 GMT
#272
On January 09 2011 06:56 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 06:49 zerglingsfolife wrote:
I still feel like we are missing some details. Was there no struggle as the guy put a gun to each persons head? How can people stand around as he executes a child? Why was security not there? I feel like anytime a political figure goes out in public they should have security.

Crazy.


Lack of security is probably a major issue we'll hear about soon.

But as for the lack of reaction, scratch it up to panic. If the shooter quietly walks up to the congresswoman, take the first shot, then turns to the crowd and begins to spray bullets. Most people instinctively run and duck for cover. They're not going to jump up and try to stop the person with the gun. It's not people idly stand around while a child gets shot. They don't also want to be shot in the process of stopping him.


Yeah, that sounds reasonable. The security issue is just surprising to me considering my high school had metal detectors/security everyday.
Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crown and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness.
gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-08 21:59:55
January 08 2011 21:59 GMT
#273
On January 09 2011 06:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Shooter?

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Show nested quote +

Tucson Festival of Books

Mamta Popat/Arizona Daily Star Jackie Storrer, right, tries her best to figure out the clues on a giant crossword as Jared Loughner, a volunteer, stands in the background during the Tucson Festival of Books.


Because he's a white Tucson male in his 20s??? Please think before you post something like this or explain yourself immediately.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 08 2011 22:00 GMT
#274
On January 09 2011 06:59 gogogadgetflow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 06:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Shooter?

[image loading]

Tucson Festival of Books

Mamta Popat/Arizona Daily Star Jackie Storrer, right, tries her best to figure out the clues on a giant crossword as Jared Loughner, a volunteer, stands in the background during the Tucson Festival of Books.


Because he's a white male in his 20s??? Please think before you post something like this or explain yourself immediately.


Look at the name also notice the "?"
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
gulati
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2241 Posts
January 08 2011 22:01 GMT
#275
Man I feel literally dirty. Sure go ahead and dispute politics all you want, but you are no hero killing innocent people.

Whatever man, just ridiculous... I hope to god this guy gets what we deem "cruel and unusual punishment" to be illegal. It should be permitted in his case.
C r u m b l i n g
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
January 08 2011 22:01 GMT
#276
You can't really plan for this stuff. You can't plan for a madman to attack anyone at any place at any time. As far as I can tell, there was no perception of threat towards the congresswoman prior to this attack. And if I were the victim under the same circumstances, I wouldn't have asked for protection, in fact I would have rather not had it, as a wall of beefeaters wouldn't really signal "face to face" with her voters. She just happened to be targeted (if indeed she was the main target of this attack) by a crazie.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
January 08 2011 22:01 GMT
#277
On January 09 2011 07:00 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 06:59 gogogadgetflow wrote:
On January 09 2011 06:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Shooter?

[image loading]

Tucson Festival of Books

Mamta Popat/Arizona Daily Star Jackie Storrer, right, tries her best to figure out the clues on a giant crossword as Jared Loughner, a volunteer, stands in the background during the Tucson Festival of Books.


Because he's a white male in his 20s??? Please think before you post something like this or explain yourself immediately.


Look at the name also notice the "?"


Also from Tucson, just like the youtube page. And you can tell from his youtube page he liked books a lot, and in the picture he is at a book festival. Still we should be careful before jumping to conclusions
Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crown and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness.
pfods
Profile Joined September 2010
United States895 Posts
January 08 2011 22:01 GMT
#278
On January 09 2011 06:59 gogogadgetflow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 06:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Shooter?

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Tucson Festival of Books

Mamta Popat/Arizona Daily Star Jackie Storrer, right, tries her best to figure out the clues on a giant crossword as Jared Loughner, a volunteer, stands in the background during the Tucson Festival of Books.


Because he's a white Tucson male in his 20s??? Please think before you post something like this or explain yourself immediately.


How about you read the thread before you post. That guy shares the shooters name, and apparently the shooters love of words and grammar.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 08 2011 22:02 GMT
#279
On January 09 2011 06:58 zerglingsfolife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 06:56 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 09 2011 06:49 zerglingsfolife wrote:
I still feel like we are missing some details. Was there no struggle as the guy put a gun to each persons head? How can people stand around as he executes a child? Why was security not there? I feel like anytime a political figure goes out in public they should have security.

Crazy.


Lack of security is probably a major issue we'll hear about soon.

But as for the lack of reaction, scratch it up to panic. If the shooter quietly walks up to the congresswoman, take the first shot, then turns to the crowd and begins to spray bullets. Most people instinctively run and duck for cover. They're not going to jump up and try to stop the person with the gun. It's not people idly stand around while a child gets shot. They don't also want to be shot in the process of stopping him.


Yeah, that sounds reasonable. The security issue is just surprising to me considering my high school had metal detectors/security everyday.


I wouldn't be surprised if the congresswoman's lack of security was due to her desire to try and connect with her constituents. Walking around at a rally with a protective detail gives the feeling that she's very distant, etc.

In retrospect, all political figures, especially those who have received death threats, should always have heightened security.
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Lascero
Profile Joined July 2010
United States59 Posts
January 08 2011 22:02 GMT
#280
On January 09 2011 06:59 gogogadgetflow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 06:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Shooter?

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Tucson Festival of Books

Mamta Popat/Arizona Daily Star Jackie Storrer, right, tries her best to figure out the clues on a giant crossword as Jared Loughner, a volunteer, stands in the background during the Tucson Festival of Books.


Because he's a white Tucson male in his 20s??? Please think before you post something like this or explain yourself immediately.


Well, there is this:

http://www.intelius.com/results.php?qf=Jared&qn=Loughner&qc=&qs=AZ&ReportType=1
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