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dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
December 14 2010 23:08 GMT
#1
Holy check, the hell this guy went through to get cured, but somehow it worked.
http://gizmodo.com/5713498/man-officially-cured-of-hiv
For the first time ever, a man has been cured of HIV. The remedy may nearly have killed him, but it opens a door—just a crack—to hope that we may someday kill off the scourge for good.

Strangely enough, the diagnosis that most concerned Timothy Ray Brown in 2007 was acute myeloid leukemia. HIV has been increasingly thought of as a manageable disease, though certainly a terribly burdensome one. What brought the 42-year old Brown under the care of Germany's Charite Universitatsmedizin Berlin hospital was the more immediate threat his cancer posed.

The treatment Brown underwent was aggressive: chemotherapy that destroyed the majority of his immune cells. Total body irradiation. Finally, a risky stem-cell transplant that nearly a third of patients don't survive—but that appears to have completely cured Brown of HIV.

Doctors were savvy when they chose a stem cell donor for Brown. The man whose bone marrow they used has a particular genetic mutation, present in an incredibly small percentage of people, that makes him almost invulnerable to HIV. With Brown's own defenses decimated by treatments, the healthy, HIV-resistant donor cells repopulated his immune system. The initial indications that the virus had abated were promising. But only just now, having taken no antiretroviral drugs since the transplant, and following extensive testing shows no signs whatsoever of HIV, have his doctors given the official word:

He's cured.

What does this mean for the future of treatment? It's not as though every HIV patient can or would want to go through the tremendous suffering that was prelude to Brown's recovery, or be able to afford the procedure if they could or did. But for the first time, we know that HIV can be cured, not just managed. It opens new avenues of research—gene therapy, stem cell treatments—that may otherwise have been thought dead ends.


Hooray for hope progression in medicine. Another article detailing a little more about the donor's natural resistance to HIV: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/doctors-hivinfected-man-cured-stem-cell-transplant/
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Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
December 14 2010 23:11 GMT
#2
I wouldn't get my hopes up. That bone marrow condition is, as the article said, absurdly rare, so unless we find a way to mass produce that mutation somehow, these kinds of cases will be the exception and not the rule. Still, it's a nice thing to know.

We're making progress, at least.
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brain_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States812 Posts
December 14 2010 23:11 GMT
#3
Crazy. I'm no expert, but did the timeline go like this?

1) Patient infected with HIV
2) HIV virus wipes out patient's white blood cells
3) Stem cells lacking the receptor protein are given to the patient
4) Stem cells differentiate into new white blood cells (lacking receptor protein)
5) Immune system repopulates with receptorless white blood cells that HIV is unable to attack
6) Working immune system. Existent HIV molecules die out because they cannot reproduce.


amirite?
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
December 14 2010 23:13 GMT
#4
this is fantastic! always hoping for new cures


although, what would it be like if there were cures for all STDs? it would be strange for me, but i guess it would feel like the 60s lol
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5501 Posts
December 14 2010 23:13 GMT
#5
Damn thats sick. Now we just need to replicate those stem cells and were good to go. gg hiv.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44214 Posts
December 14 2010 23:15 GMT
#6
It also uses stem cells, which means there's no way we're going to be curing HIV here in America anytime soon -.-' Religion-forbid we ever use proper science to cure these types of problems; the terrible thought is well-established that stem cell research is "Playing God".

This is absolutely amazing though. I'm in awe.
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ultramafia
Profile Joined August 2010
221 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-14 23:16:34
December 14 2010 23:15 GMT
#7
On December 15 2010 08:11 brain_ wrote:
Crazy. I'm no expert, but did the timeline go like this?

1) Patient infected with HIV
2) HIV virus wipes out patient's white blood cells
3) Stem cells lacking the receptor protein are given to the patient
4) Stem cells differentiate into new white blood cells (lacking receptor protein)
5) Immune system repopulates with receptorless white blood cells that HIV is unable to attack
6) Working immune system. Existent HIV molecules die out because they cannot reproduce.


amirite?


as i am no expert either, that seems correct. Although a very rare situation, definitely a step forward in medical breakthrough.

edit to laugh at slappy. touche.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17247 Posts
December 14 2010 23:16 GMT
#8
On December 15 2010 08:13 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Damn thats sick. Now we just need to replicate those stem cells and were good to go. gg hiv.

No, you need to completely obliterate the immune system as well as the other things listed.
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nK)Duke
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany936 Posts
December 14 2010 23:18 GMT
#9
On December 15 2010 08:11 brain_ wrote:
Crazy. I'm no expert, but did the timeline go like this?

1) Patient infected with HIV
2) HIV virus wipes out patient's white blood cells
3) Stem cells lacking the receptor protein are given to the patient
4) Stem cells differentiate into new white blood cells (lacking receptor protein)
5) Immune system repopulates with receptorless white blood cells that HIV is unable to attack
6) Working immune system. Existent HIV molecules die out because they cannot reproduce.


amirite?


Patient outplayed HIV virus. HIV isn't OP anymore.
Guilford
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Australia290 Posts
December 14 2010 23:19 GMT
#10
I don't think it is that breakthrough because it could only be done with bone marrow of donor with natural genetic resistance to HIV which is very rare.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 14 2010 23:19 GMT
#11
On December 15 2010 08:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
It also uses stem cells, which means there's no way we're going to be curing HIV here in America anytime soon -.-' Religion-forbid we ever use proper science to cure these types of problems; the terrible thought is well-established that stem cell research is "Playing God".

This is absolutely amazing though. I'm in awe.

or we could just wait till a well known republican like o'rielly or beck got hiv. then their tune would change.
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 14 2010 23:19 GMT
#12
On December 15 2010 08:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
It also uses stem cells, which means there's no way we're going to be curing HIV here in America anytime soon -.-' Religion-forbid we ever use proper science to cure these types of problems; the terrible thought is well-established that stem cell research is "Playing God".

This is absolutely amazing though. I'm in awe.

Different type of stem cell, from what I read. Not embryos, but stem cells that every adult has.
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emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
December 14 2010 23:20 GMT
#13
On December 15 2010 08:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
It also uses stem cells, which means there's no way we're going to be curing HIV here in America anytime soon -.-' Religion-forbid we ever use proper science to cure these types of problems; the terrible thought is well-established that stem cell research is "Playing God".

This is absolutely amazing though. I'm in awe.


I thought Obama made stem cell research legal again like a minute after he took office? Perhaps i am remembering that wrong, but I'm sure he did.
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
December 14 2010 23:20 GMT
#14
I`m starting a business kidnapping special people for their rare bone marrow, which I will proceed to sell to rich decadent HIV-people. Anyone want to help me with capital? I`ll also need an experienced hunter who can discern bone marrow type by smelling people. PM to apply.

But seriously, sounds very promising. Bit skeptical though, miracle breakthroughs do not happen that often. (I know it is not really a breakthrough per se, but it is apparently first time someone has been cured so in that sense it is quite revolutionary.)
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Krigwin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1130 Posts
December 14 2010 23:20 GMT
#15
This is absolutely amazing. I am just in awe.

If it opens the door to some kind of ridiculous stem cell/total immune system replacement procedure that will cure AIDS, it's extreme, but it's still a great step forward.

And this guy, the donor, who has some kind of resistance to HIV? That's incredible, given his tissue and with gene therapy, the possibilities are jaw-dropping.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
December 14 2010 23:21 GMT
#16
On December 15 2010 08:11 Aeres wrote:
I wouldn't get my hopes up. That bone marrow condition is, as the article said, absurdly rare, so unless we find a way to mass produce that mutation somehow, these kinds of cases will be the exception and not the rule. Still, it's a nice thing to know.

We're making progress, at least.


Yea it's like the US would need stem cell research to find out how to mass produce this type of cell....

It's a wonder we're so far behind -.-
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Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
December 14 2010 23:21 GMT
#17
On December 15 2010 08:11 brain_ wrote:
Crazy. I'm no expert, but did the timeline go like this?

1) Patient infected with HIV
2) HIV virus wipes out patient's white blood cells
3) Stem cells lacking the receptor protein are given to the patient
4) Stem cells differentiate into new white blood cells (lacking receptor protein)
5) Immune system repopulates with receptorless white blood cells that HIV is unable to attack
6) Working immune system. Existent HIV molecules die out because they cannot reproduce.


amirite?

Viruses don't metabolize, so they don't just die from not being able to reproduce. They can be physically destroyed, but odds are he still has HIV virions floating around in his body, they just aren't infecting anything. I don't think he can share his blood or any other bodily fluids with anyone else. Just like when you're "cured" of the flu thanks to flu vaccine, you still have the flu, it's just not fucking you up anymore.
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vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
December 14 2010 23:21 GMT
#18
wow this is great news!
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BROotogy
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Eritrea149 Posts
December 14 2010 23:23 GMT
#19
On December 15 2010 08:13 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Damn thats sick. Now we just need to replicate those stem cells and were good to go. gg hiv.


I see what you did there
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4199 Posts
December 14 2010 23:24 GMT
#20
On December 15 2010 08:11 brain_ wrote:
Crazy. I'm no expert, but did the timeline go like this?

1) Patient infected with HIV
2) HIV virus wipes out patient's white blood cells
3) Stem cells lacking the receptor protein are given to the patient
4) Stem cells differentiate into new white blood cells (lacking receptor protein)
5) Immune system repopulates with receptorless white blood cells that HIV is unable to attack
6) Working immune system. Existent HIV molecules die out because they cannot reproduce.


amirite?

Didn't he have a form of leukemia which destroyed his immune system as well?

Btw, do any of you guys know what a bone marrow transplant entails? It's one hell of a procedure.....
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