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Elean
Profile Joined October 2010
689 Posts
November 08 2010 14:20 GMT
#1
Hello everyone,

I'm a random player, and have been practicing my APM for a while. Currently my APM level is as follow:
When I play calm, my average APM is about 60/60/80 for terran/protross/zerg (when I practice my APM, it's roughly +20 for each race).

So overall, my APM as a zerg is significantly higher than with other races.

I have been wondering if this is due to zerg in general or if this should indicate something about my play.

So I'd like to know, if some of you who play different races have observed something similar.
Poll: Which race you have the highest APM with ?

I have a highest APM as Zerg (141)
 
68%

I have a highest APM with my main race (41)
 
20%

I have a highest APM as Terran (12)
 
6%

I have the same APM whatever the race (7)
 
3%

I have a highest APM as Protoss (5)
 
2%

206 total votes

Your vote: Which race you have the highest APM with ?

(Vote): I have a highest APM with my main race
(Vote): I have a highest APM as Terran
(Vote): I have a highest APM as Protoss
(Vote): I have a highest APM as Zerg
(Vote): I have the same APM whatever the race



Tirr
Profile Joined September 2010
Russian Federation122 Posts
November 08 2010 14:22 GMT
#2
I am usually playing random. My usual APM with all races is 90. But misteriousely my APM in TvT is usually like 120 (with no reason and only this matchup)
Pigge
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden88 Posts
November 08 2010 14:23 GMT
#3
I find myself with the highest APM whilst playing Zerg aswell, protoss is the one that i have the least amount of APM with, terran close 3rd. Terran tends to have pretty high APM when i play though, cus of harass and so on.
all muta all the time.
ooni
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1498 Posts
November 08 2010 14:23 GMT
#4
Random:
95 -> Terran
110 -> Zerg
75 -> Protoss

Most win as protoss :D
Hi!
Boundless
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada588 Posts
November 08 2010 14:24 GMT
#5
I main Terran and I'm about 130-150 with that race. When I play Z (hoping to get good enough at each race to random on the ladder), I jump up to about 180.

Simply more stuff to do with Zerg.
"Sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace." - Romans 6:14
Endorsed
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1221 Posts
November 08 2010 14:24 GMT
#6
I play Terran and Zerg and strangely enough it's higher for Terran. I guess it's because I harass and use alot of heavy micro oriented builds/
e4e5nf3
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada599 Posts
November 08 2010 14:26 GMT
#7
My main race is P, so that is my highest apm. My worst is Z, mostly because I am not fully aware of build orders and have milliseconds of delay as I think of what to do, which all add up after a while.
King takes Queen
SimpleHarmonicMotion
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden187 Posts
November 08 2010 14:28 GMT
#8
my apm as zerg is about 30-40 higher than with the other races
common sense is the collection of prejudices
Irritation
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria129 Posts
November 08 2010 14:28 GMT
#9
I play Z as a main race and have APM average around 120, but for me it feels like when i play terran what i do more often recently i need far more APM, and i have checked it, i have 140 average with terran.

For me it feels like terran is far more APM intense than z is, cause you need hotkeys for all production buldings not like z you just have your hatcherys
By failing to prepare, you are preparing for failure - Benjamin Franklin
Accer
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)319 Posts
November 08 2010 14:29 GMT
#10
I play terran as my main and sit around 140 apm but when I occasionally play Zerg my apm jumps to about 180, and I'm not even that familiar with the race.
FSP.Siggy
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada138 Posts
November 08 2010 14:29 GMT
#11
I believe zerg apm gets huge boosts from the fact that it's so easy to just spam-create units, resulting in massive apm spikes. At least, that's what I've gathered from looking over apm charts of my own games.
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Accer
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)319 Posts
November 08 2010 14:30 GMT
#12
On November 08 2010 23:24 Boundless wrote:
I main Terran and I'm about 130-150 with that race. When I play Z (hoping to get good enough at each race to random on the ladder), I jump up to about 180.

Simply more stuff to do with Zerg.


haha, wow I guess I'm not the only one =P
iByte
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada33 Posts
November 08 2010 14:31 GMT
#13
i find i get around 100 as terran, 120 as zerg and probably close to 130-140 as toss.

It seems like I micro a LOT more with terran, so my macro slips and my APM drops, and I'm really good with my chrono boosts or larva with the other races.

Also, I find warpgates boost my APM as well
MagmaRam
Profile Joined October 2010
United States395 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-08 14:33:20
November 08 2010 14:31 GMT
#14
I play as random, and I get the most APM as zerg. Terran and Protoss have about the same APM, until late game or if I'm doing certain things (i.e. advancing tank lines with mech play). Then, normally Terran has more APM due to my love of Ravens, unless I went for HT before Colossi. Spellcasters shoot up my APM more than other options.
Jackle
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada859 Posts
November 08 2010 14:33 GMT
#15
I could be wrong, but if I recall correctly. Every time you tell a group of units an order, that equals to the # of units in that group actions. So if you have a ball of 30 zerglings, and right click that equates to 30 actions. (Although redundant actions are not included, such as if the pathing of the unit is not altered) So it is much more common to have high numbers of Zerg units in a control group than it is for other races. This results in a higher APM.
You called down the thunder, now reap the whirlwind.
MoreFaSho
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1427 Posts
November 08 2010 14:35 GMT
#16
On November 08 2010 23:33 Jackle wrote:
I could be wrong, but if I recall correctly. Every time you tell a group of units an order, that equals to the # of units in that group actions. So if you have a ball of 30 zerglings, and right click that equates to 30 actions. (Although redundant actions are not included, such as if the pathing of the unit is not altered) So it is much more common to have high numbers of Zerg units in a control group than it is for other races. This results in a higher APM.

Nope, telling a group to move is 1 action.
I always try to shield slam face, just to make sure it doesnt work
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
November 08 2010 14:35 GMT
#17
On November 08 2010 23:33 Jackle wrote:
I could be wrong, but if I recall correctly. Every time you tell a group of units an order, that equals to the # of units in that group actions. So if you have a ball of 30 zerglings, and right click that equates to 30 actions. (Although redundant actions are not included, such as if the pathing of the unit is not altered) So it is much more common to have high numbers of Zerg units in a control group than it is for other races. This results in a higher APM.


It doesn't matter how much units are in a group. One group action = one action.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-08 14:41:25
November 08 2010 14:37 GMT
#18
On November 08 2010 23:33 Jackle wrote:
I could be wrong, but if I recall correctly. Every time you tell a group of units an order, that equals to the # of units in that group actions. So if you have a ball of 30 zerglings, and right click that equates to 30 actions. (Although redundant actions are not included, such as if the pathing of the unit is not altered) So it is much more common to have high numbers of Zerg units in a control group than it is for other races. This results in a higher APM.


This is wrong, otherwise my APM as Zerg would be... well, over 9000 i guess. I have a ton of speedlings in most Zerg games.
Most actions are counted, the only actions that seem to not be counted are those without result, for example trying to build zerglings a hundred times without larva doesn't count.

On Topic:
Terran: ~65
Protoss: ~70
Zerg: ~80-90

Might be because i play far more aggressive with zerg, my harassing mutalisks don't get a single second to rest their wings.

I know it's low APM, but hey, i'm almost as old as WhiteRa, i'm allowed to be slow.
MilesTeg
Profile Joined September 2010
France1271 Posts
November 08 2010 14:41 GMT
#19
I have about the same numbers as OP, 80 as zerg, 60 as protoss (my strongest race), and with terran a whopping...40 (because I'm an aweful, aweful terran).
Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
November 08 2010 14:42 GMT
#20
My highest is with Terran... probably due to the fact it is my main race. However, I think if I were to switch to zerg I would eventually have higher apm with Zerg
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