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Ranking changes in the last 2 hours
1 Junwi 869.294 100 88 8 4 ///6 games, 5 wins
2 Thewind 859.540 112 91 19 2 /// no changes
3 Yellow 857.485 96 78 17 1 ///5 games, 5 wins
4 Fofy 854.913 134 102 31 1 ///9 games, 9 wins
5 Iris 853.477 109 86 19 4 ///14 games, 12 wins
6 SC_Side 852.455 104 85 15 4 ///7 games, 7 wins
7 Mingu 851.028 95 69 23 3 ///7 games, 7 wins
8 Gyuntae 851.020 135 104 28 3 ///4 games, 4 wins
9 ZergMan 850.749 135 106 27 2 ///12 games, 11 wins
10 Doggi 850.528 207 138 66 3 ///NEW
11 Chojja 850.393 106 86 19 1 ///5 games, 5 wins
12 SaferZerg 848.897 85 68 15 2 ///17 games, 17 wins
13 Anytime 848.017 154 113 37 4 ///22 games, 20 wins
14 Siva 845.729 64 57 6 1 ///17 games, 16 wins
Well 20 games in 2 hours means 6 minutes for 1 game (not counting preparing time, rest time, etc.) , and it seems HARD :O
What is worse is that even one gamer (the person doesn't say the name) had his ranking raised when he was supposed to be on OnGameNet playing Dual Tournament. 
Even on Junwi's blog thingy (personal web page designed for easy use) a gamer on SG Family wrote a comment which said "1st place? Hahahahahahah good with your abusing :D"
I mean, I never thought about this thing, and people started talking about abusers... :O
What do you think?
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shouldn't even be a question
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i think its obviously abuse. Every ladder as important as this one will have mass abuse without any doubt.
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It would suck if Starcraft starts getting all corrupt organisers and stuff O_O
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What is worse is that even one gamer (the person doesn't say the name) had his ranking raised when he was supposed to be on OnGameNet playing Dual Tournament.
:D haha great stuff
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well this is expected for a chance 2 crack @ 20grand?
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Haha, lol wcg's admins better reset those clever pro-gamers! 
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Australia4514 Posts
same thing happened last year... nothing happened to them
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yes indeed, too many zergs :/
mb there are not abuses but pool rushes :O
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every year, there are be abusers
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so can any hexatron dream team members answer this for the public?
did any of ur teammates abuse?
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Australia4514 Posts
siva was 14th. what do you think. (in his defence, he was one of the few in the top 5 for the few days prior but with all the abuse how can anyone stay legit?)
i'd say at least 70% in the top 50 or so abused their asses off.
lovedom was top 30, and couldn't get any games with anyone around his rank as noone wanted the chance of losing points and were all abusing.
gundam wanted free points but he realized he was far too away to make it so didn't bother.
i reckon the list should have been taken back 2 days and taken from there.
they had the next round of the league today, siva, and lovedom(qualified from the largest offline event)and someone else from our team lost in it today. Dont know the format, or what advances or what. But some amateur won i think.
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United States12237 Posts
As long as Ogogo isn't up there! 
Needs more Nada though.
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Australia4514 Posts
1st Enfury won, amateur terran user. (he defeated silent_control)
2nd ggon
3-8 are unknown. (i dont know if the 8 go into a playoff, or another 8 join them from something else.)
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What sucks is that the abusing starts with a few then as the legit people start loseing ground they are forced to abuse just to keep up. Btw I hope Yellow was in the top 8 :o
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On July 31 2004 08:56 Legionnaire wrote:
siva was 14th. what do you think. (in his defence, he was one of the few in the top 5 for the few days prior but with all the abuse how can anyone stay legit?)
i'd say at least 70% in the top 50 or so abused their asses off.
lovedom was top 30, and couldn't get any games with anyone around his rank as noone wanted the chance of losing points and were all abusing.
gundam wanted free points but he realized he was far too away to make it so didn't bother.
i reckon the list should have been taken back 2 days and taken from there.
they had the next round of the league today, siva, and lovedom(qualified from the largest offline event)and someone else from our team lost in it today. Dont know the format, or what advances or what. But some amateur won i think.
i thought so, 
it was like this every year anyway
too bad no protoss users abused their way to the top 14.
i hope it doesn't go like this for the wcg usa online event
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What's the deal with all the other progamers, boxer, nada etc... Will they qualify by some other special tourney ?
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progamers seed match will be played at august 5~6 and top 16 players go offline preliminary
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fuck abusers...even if they are korean gosus, thats not cool. All i gota say about WCG admins is they are like lazy fat pigs looking for mud to bathe in.
Drink Beer. Save water for those fishies.
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it's a vicious circle
WCG wants the progamers
progamers want WCG
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but sicne WCG is responsible they should act like that
it's only gonna cost them 1 year plus there would still be plenty of other good gamers qualified (such as gundam i nthis case)
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USA29055 Posts
either they are to busy with their pro leagues to actively compete in this or they are to damn lazy... but its not like Yellow and such needs to abuse to get in the top 10 of the online qualifier? WTf
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no they're not lazy
most of them try, but in the end you get fucked in these leagues if you don't abuse. you can be the legit #1 2 days before and completely drop out when it ends.
of course yellow needs to abuse, because if everyone high ranked abuses, how is he gonna get real games? obviously in a legit league he doesn't need to abuse to obtain a high rank, but that's not the case here
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On July 31 2004 07:01 DoubleStormIII wrote: Ranking changes in the last 2 hours 1 Junwi 869.294 100 88 8 4 ///6 games, 5 wins 2 Thewind 859.540 112 91 19 2 /// no changes 3 Yellow 857.485 96 78 17 1 ///5 games, 5 wins 4 Fofy 854.913 134 102 31 1 ///9 games, 9 wins 5 Iris 853.477 109 86 19 4 ///14 games, 12 wins 6 SC_Side 852.455 104 85 15 4 ///7 games, 7 wins 7 Mingu 851.028 95 69 23 3 ///7 games, 7 wins 8 Gyuntae 851.020 135 104 28 3 ///4 games, 4 wins 9 ZergMan 850.749 135 106 27 2 ///12 games, 11 wins 10 Doggi 850.528 207 138 66 3 /// NEW11 Chojja 850.393 106 86 19 1 ///5 games, 5 wins 12 SaferZerg 848.897 85 68 15 2 /// 17 games, 17 wins13 Anytime 848.017 154 113 37 4 /// 22 games, 20 wins14 Siva 845.729 64 57 6 1 /// 17 games, 16 winsWell 20 games in 2 hours means 6 minutes for 1 game (not counting preparing time, rest time, etc.) , and it seems HARD :O What is worse is that even one gamer (the person doesn't say the name) had his ranking raised when he was supposed to be on OnGameNet playing Dual Tournament. Even on Junwi's blog thingy (personal web page designed for easy use) a gamer on SG Family wrote a comment which said "1st place? Hahahahahahah good with your abusing :D" I mean, I never thought about this thing, and people started talking about abusers... :O What do you think?
You are naive to not think that this happens in every single tournament. It has just been snowballing over the years to where everyone abuses as opposed to the majority.
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*correction
every korean event, but ya you're right 
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"Money and Fame" Tournaments - where "no manner plz" just isn't enough ;D
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Maybe when you checked first, it wasnt updated....
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Meh, that's the stupidest thing I've heard... and WCG Administrators allow this? Bah.. fire them!
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It would be hard to reset every abuser 
And if they did that 80% of the skill goes away making for another Ogogo/Control incidident 
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yay for the warcraft 3 automated mathch making system
programmers need to save the day for starcraft
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Netherlands2766 Posts
Anything that prevents korean representation like silent_control and ogogo is fine with me.
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United States33456 Posts
wow, looks like mainstream Korean fans are finally realizing this shit sucks?
time to incite a violent riot :D
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On July 31 2004 17:18 Liquid`RaSZi wrote:
Anything that prevents korean representation like silent_control and ogogo is fine with me.
What was wrong with Ogogo?
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I just hope wcg usa doesn't end up being this abused too TT!
It's supposedly going to be run by the same people who are running wcg's korea online :O
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Foru is a great guy! He said that he has lots of things to do and still spend an hour on that interview! 
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ops, my bad, i was reading the interview of foru and post it wrong, sry
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You have been warned. I will be checking on you again in a few days.
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