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DoubleStormIII
Profile Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2610 Posts
July 30 2004 22:01 GMT
#1
Ranking changes in the last 2 hours

1 Junwi 869.294 100 88 8 4 ///6 games, 5 wins
2 Thewind 859.540 112 91 19 2 /// no changes
3 Yellow 857.485 96 78 17 1 ///5 games, 5 wins
4 Fofy 854.913 134 102 31 1 ///9 games, 9 wins
5 Iris 853.477 109 86 19 4 ///14 games, 12 wins
6 SC_Side 852.455 104 85 15 4 ///7 games, 7 wins
7 Mingu 851.028 95 69 23 3 ///7 games, 7 wins
8 Gyuntae 851.020 135 104 28 3 ///4 games, 4 wins
9 ZergMan 850.749 135 106 27 2 ///12 games, 11 wins
10 Doggi 850.528 207 138 66 3 ///NEW
11 Chojja 850.393 106 86 19 1 ///5 games, 5 wins

12 SaferZerg 848.897 85 68 15 2 ///17 games, 17 wins
13 Anytime 848.017 154 113 37 4 ///22 games, 20 wins
14 Siva 845.729 64 57 6 1 ///17 games, 16 wins

Well 20 games in 2 hours means 6 minutes for 1 game (not counting preparing time, rest time, etc.) , and it seems HARD :O

What is worse is that even one gamer (the person doesn't say the name) had his ranking raised when he was supposed to be on OnGameNet playing Dual Tournament.

Even on Junwi's blog thingy (personal web page designed for easy use) a gamer on SG Family wrote a comment which said "1st place? Hahahahahahah good with your abusing :D"

I mean, I never thought about this thing, and people started talking about abusers... :O

What do you think?
Double Storm On You!
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
July 30 2004 22:05 GMT
#2
shouldn't even be a question
Administrator
HeaT
Profile Joined June 2004
Germany325 Posts
July 30 2004 22:06 GMT
#3
i think its obviously abuse. Every ladder as important as this one will have mass abuse without any doubt.
nortydog
Profile Joined December 2003
Australia3067 Posts
July 30 2004 22:07 GMT
#4
It would suck if Starcraft starts getting all corrupt organisers and stuff O_O
NoCleanFeed.com
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
July 30 2004 22:09 GMT
#5
What is worse is that even one gamer (the person doesn't say the name) had his ranking raised when he was supposed to be on OnGameNet playing Dual Tournament.


:D haha great stuff
TH-GP
Profile Joined July 2004
Australia226 Posts
July 30 2004 22:16 GMT
#6
well this is expected for a chance 2 crack @ 20grand?
GooDGaMe
Profile Joined August 2003
United States989 Posts
July 30 2004 22:16 GMT
#7
Haha, lol wcg's admins better reset those clever pro-gamers!
gl hf ~~
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
July 30 2004 22:19 GMT
#8
thats alot of money hehe
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
RookieRookie
Profile Joined May 2004
China99 Posts
July 30 2004 22:33 GMT
#9
TOO many Zerg...
Show Time now waiting
Legionnaire
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia4514 Posts
July 30 2004 22:45 GMT
#10
same thing happened last year... nothing happened to them
My hope is one day stupid people will feel the same pain when they talk, as the pain the rest of us feel when we hear them. Twitter: @Legionnaire_au
Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
July 30 2004 22:49 GMT
#11
yes indeed, too many zergs :/
mb there are not abuses but pool rushes :O
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Refrain[FriZ]
Profile Joined June 2003
Canada4337 Posts
July 30 2004 22:52 GMT
#12
as obvious as .... hmm
pdk001
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)922 Posts
July 30 2004 23:31 GMT
#13
every year, there are be abusers
Learning english is as difficult as becoming a progamer in korea
lefty
Profile Joined November 2003
United States1896 Posts
July 30 2004 23:37 GMT
#14
so can any hexatron dream team members answer this for the public?
did any of ur teammates abuse?
Legionnaire
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia4514 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-07-31 00:01:42
July 30 2004 23:56 GMT
#15
siva was 14th. what do you think. (in his defence, he was one of the few in the top 5 for the few days prior but with all the abuse how can anyone stay legit?)

i'd say at least 70% in the top 50 or so abused their asses off.

lovedom was top 30, and couldn't get any games with anyone around his rank as noone wanted the chance of losing points and were all abusing.

gundam wanted free points but he realized he was far too away to make it so didn't bother.

i reckon the list should have been taken back 2 days and taken from there.

they had the next round of the league today, siva, and lovedom(qualified from the largest offline event)and someone else from our team lost in it today. Dont know the format, or what advances or what. But some amateur won i think.
My hope is one day stupid people will feel the same pain when they talk, as the pain the rest of us feel when we hear them. Twitter: @Legionnaire_au
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
July 31 2004 00:06 GMT
#16
As long as Ogogo isn't up there!

Needs more Nada though.
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Legionnaire
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia4514 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-07-31 00:13:11
July 31 2004 00:12 GMT
#17
1st Enfury won, amateur terran user. (he defeated silent_control)
2nd ggon
3-8 are unknown. (i dont know if the 8 go into a playoff, or another 8 join them from something else.)
My hope is one day stupid people will feel the same pain when they talk, as the pain the rest of us feel when we hear them. Twitter: @Legionnaire_au
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
July 31 2004 00:15 GMT
#18
What sucks is that the abusing starts with a few then as the legit people start loseing ground they are forced to abuse just to keep up. Btw I hope Yellow was in the top 8 :o
Never Knows Best.
lefty
Profile Joined November 2003
United States1896 Posts
July 31 2004 00:16 GMT
#19
On July 31 2004 08:56 Legionnaire wrote:
siva was 14th. what do you think. (in his defence, he was one of the few in the top 5 for the few days prior but with all the abuse how can anyone stay legit?)

i'd say at least 70% in the top 50 or so abused their asses off.

lovedom was top 30, and couldn't get any games with anyone around his rank as noone wanted the chance of losing points and were all abusing.

gundam wanted free points but he realized he was far too away to make it so didn't bother.

i reckon the list should have been taken back 2 days and taken from there.

they had the next round of the league today, siva, and lovedom(qualified from the largest offline event)and someone else from our team lost in it today. Dont know the format, or what advances or what. But some amateur won i think.


i thought so,
it was like this every year anyway
too bad no protoss users abused their way to the top 14.
i hope it doesn't go like this for the wcg usa online event
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
July 31 2004 00:36 GMT
#20
What's the deal with all the other progamers, boxer, nada etc... Will they qualify by some other special tourney ?
pdk001
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)922 Posts
July 31 2004 01:14 GMT
#21
progamers seed match will be played at august 5~6 and top 16 players go offline preliminary
Learning english is as difficult as becoming a progamer in korea
Cpt. MorgaN
Profile Joined May 2004
United States86 Posts
July 31 2004 01:15 GMT
#22
fuck abusers...even if they are korean gosus, thats not cool. All i gota say about WCG admins is they are like lazy fat pigs looking for mud to bathe in.

Drink Beer. Save water for those fishies.
BooZe
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
July 31 2004 01:20 GMT
#23
it's a vicious circle

WCG wants the progamers
progamers want WCG
Administrator
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
July 31 2004 01:22 GMT
#24
but sicne WCG is responsible they should act like that

it's only gonna cost them 1 year plus there would still be plenty of other good gamers qualified (such as gundam i nthis case)
Administrator
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 31 2004 01:47 GMT
#25
either they are to busy with their pro leagues to actively compete in this or they are to damn lazy... but its not like Yellow and such needs to abuse to get in the top 10 of the online qualifier? WTf
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-07-31 01:53:24
July 31 2004 01:51 GMT
#26
no they're not lazy

most of them try, but in the end you get fucked in these leagues if you don't abuse. you can be the legit #1 2 days before and completely drop out when it ends.

of course yellow needs to abuse, because if everyone high ranked abuses, how is he gonna get real games? obviously in a legit league he doesn't need to abuse to obtain a high rank, but that's not the case here
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Maynard
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States889 Posts
July 31 2004 03:07 GMT
#27
On July 31 2004 07:01 DoubleStormIII wrote:
Ranking changes in the last 2 hours

1 Junwi 869.294 100 88 8 4 ///6 games, 5 wins
2 Thewind 859.540 112 91 19 2 /// no changes
3 Yellow 857.485 96 78 17 1 ///5 games, 5 wins
4 Fofy 854.913 134 102 31 1 ///9 games, 9 wins
5 Iris 853.477 109 86 19 4 ///14 games, 12 wins
6 SC_Side 852.455 104 85 15 4 ///7 games, 7 wins
7 Mingu 851.028 95 69 23 3 ///7 games, 7 wins
8 Gyuntae 851.020 135 104 28 3 ///4 games, 4 wins
9 ZergMan 850.749 135 106 27 2 ///12 games, 11 wins
10 Doggi 850.528 207 138 66 3 ///NEW
11 Chojja 850.393 106 86 19 1 ///5 games, 5 wins

12 SaferZerg 848.897 85 68 15 2 ///17 games, 17 wins
13 Anytime 848.017 154 113 37 4 ///22 games, 20 wins
14 Siva 845.729 64 57 6 1 ///17 games, 16 wins

Well 20 games in 2 hours means 6 minutes for 1 game (not counting preparing time, rest time, etc.) , and it seems HARD :O

What is worse is that even one gamer (the person doesn't say the name) had his ranking raised when he was supposed to be on OnGameNet playing Dual Tournament.

Even on Junwi's blog thingy (personal web page designed for easy use) a gamer on SG Family wrote a comment which said "1st place? Hahahahahahah good with your abusing :D"

I mean, I never thought about this thing, and people started talking about abusers... :O

What do you think?


You are naive to not think that this happens in every single tournament. It has just been snowballing over the years to where everyone abuses as opposed to the majority.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
July 31 2004 03:10 GMT
#28
*correction

every korean event, but ya you're right
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Pafnucy
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland1124 Posts
July 31 2004 03:46 GMT
#29
"Money and Fame" Tournaments - where "no manner plz" just isn't enough ;D
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OctoPuSs
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Canada5279 Posts
July 31 2004 04:43 GMT
#30
Maybe when you checked first, it wasnt updated....
Depression is just a sarcastic state of mind. Liquid`HerO Fighting!
AnOther
Profile Joined April 2004
565 Posts
July 31 2004 04:50 GMT
#31
that is sad ;(
TreY
Profile Joined March 2004
United States997 Posts
July 31 2004 06:53 GMT
#32
Meh, that's the stupidest thing I've heard... and WCG Administrators allow this? Bah.. fire them!
Team [LighT]
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
July 31 2004 07:01 GMT
#33
It would be hard to reset every abuser

And if they did that 80% of the skill goes away making for another Ogogo/Control incidident
Nak Allstar.
mindspike
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada1902 Posts
July 31 2004 08:15 GMT
#34
yay for the warcraft 3 automated mathch making system
programmers need to save the day for starcraft

zerg/human - vancouver, canada
Liquid`RaSZi
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2766 Posts
July 31 2004 08:18 GMT
#35
Anything that prevents korean representation like silent_control and ogogo is fine with me.
Fire and blood
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33581 Posts
August 01 2004 08:25 GMT
#36
wow, looks like mainstream Korean fans are finally realizing this shit sucks?

time to incite a violent riot :D
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
GooDGaMe
Profile Joined August 2003
United States989 Posts
August 01 2004 08:35 GMT
#37
On July 31 2004 17:18 Liquid`RaSZi wrote:
Anything that prevents korean representation like silent_control and ogogo is fine with me.

What was wrong with Ogogo?
gl hf ~~
GooDGaMe
Profile Joined August 2003
United States989 Posts
August 01 2004 08:38 GMT
#38
I just hope wcg usa doesn't end up being this abused too TT!
It's supposedly going to be run by the same people who are running wcg's korea online :O
gl hf ~~
Mouriner
Profile Joined March 2004
Brazil396 Posts
October 18 2004 09:12 GMT
#39

Foru is a great guy! He said that he has lots of things to do and still spend an hour on that interview!
Mouriner
Profile Joined March 2004
Brazil396 Posts
October 18 2004 09:15 GMT
#40
ops, my bad, i was reading the interview of foru and post it wrong, sry
LouX
Profile Joined October 2004
China68 Posts
October 18 2004 09:21 GMT
#41
top3 all zerg??
oh, I am quite cool
Legionnaire
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia4514 Posts
October 18 2004 10:13 GMT
#42
Joined TL.net Wednesday, 31st of March 2004
Total Posts 74
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Been here since march and only posted this week.

I suggest you either stop going down the path of temptation and come back and join the rightious with decent posts. Or i will send you down to hell where you belong!

You have been warned. I will be checking on you again in a few days.
My hope is one day stupid people will feel the same pain when they talk, as the pain the rest of us feel when we hear them. Twitter: @Legionnaire_au
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