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gundream
Profile Joined April 2010
United States229 Posts
October 23 2010 18:43 GMT
#361
hope the best for the ex.werra members...anyone who stays should be careful of the reputation that can give and everyone who has left should be given best wishes
Taosu
Profile Joined August 2010
Ukraine1074 Posts
October 23 2010 18:43 GMT
#362
On October 24 2010 03:33 _Darwin_ wrote:
So if your manager willfully touched you and lured you into his bedroom to sleep and then unzipped your pants.. you'd be like "dats aight normal day good times"?

Please explain how it would be handled in Ukraine.

Well, if I were there I would have left his home right after that:

On October 24 2010 02:02 wonkyu wrote:
He laid his head on my lap and put arms around my shoulders
I was gross, and suspicious

I can't understand why did he stay. Here it's usually solved by punching molester's face and alarming other people that he's gay (in most cases this causes irreparable damage to reputation). Well, cultural differences...
Also fan of Hyuk, Pure, free, Action, Stats, Leta, Horang2, Snow, Flying, Shuttle, Movie, Paralyze
Etra
Profile Joined September 2010
81 Posts
October 23 2010 18:43 GMT
#363
On October 24 2010 03:30 FrostOtter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2010 03:27 Etra wrote:


"Sexual assault is an assault of a sexual nature on another person."
Where is the assault in his post. Retard?

Legally, assault is just being touched in a way that the person you are touching does not want. Simple assault would be threatening to touch someone in a way in which they would not want to be touched. So yeah, this would be sexual assault.

EDIT: That is, in the US. I don't know the laws in Korea.


Did you get this out of a children's dictionary? So if I stroked your cheek and you did not like it, I would be assaulting you?
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-23 18:53:02
October 23 2010 18:44 GMT
#364
Not that it would've helped as he was probably flying under the radar, but does Korea have the equivalent of criminal record check for their coaches and managers?

On October 24 2010 03:43 Etra wrote:
Did you get this out of a children's dictionary? So if I stroked your cheek and you did not like it, I would be assaulting you?


Yeah, probably. Dunno how it is elsewhere, but I'm a month and a half away from becoming a teacher in Canada and you have to be very careful on what you do. Particularly if you're a male teacher in elementary. (Although there's been some crazy cougars that have been caught recently at the high school level.) Above reproach is key because if it's your word against theirs, you will lose.

Maybe people are hypersensitive, but abuse have occurred and if you are in a position of authority over vulnerable persons, the standards are much higher. Tough on people in authority, but better than if things were too lenient.
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FrostOtter
Profile Joined September 2010
United States537 Posts
October 23 2010 18:45 GMT
#365
On October 24 2010 03:43 Etra wrote:


Did you get this out of a children's dictionary? So if I stroked your cheek and you did not like it, I would be assaulting you?

If you consider minoring in political science for my undergraduate degree a "children's dictionary," then yes. Yes, if you stroked my cheek and I didn't like it, and I made it clear to you, or it was already reasonably clear to you, that I wouldn't like it, that would be assault. The chances of me prosecuting you might be low, but people break the law all the time without ever going to court. It depends on how much the person cares.
biomech
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany380 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-23 18:49:03
October 23 2010 18:45 GMT
#366
On October 24 2010 03:40 wonkyu wrote:
it isnt exaggated.
he tried to sexuall harass in this case, and the other one testified at www.playxp.com
and the victim said that I had anal sex with him by force
so it was clearly rape.
different case


beforehand, translation shall please not mislead us here... so what actually happened, attempt to sexual harrassement OR in fact 'rape' being forced to have anal intercourse? (or both on different victims? oO)
csfield
Profile Joined October 2008
United States206 Posts
October 23 2010 18:46 GMT
#367
On October 24 2010 03:37 imperator-xy wrote:
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On October 24 2010 03:29 csfield wrote:
On October 24 2010 02:56 FrostOtter wrote:
On October 24 2010 02:54 _Darwin_ wrote:
I didn't know Gundam was Catholic.


I am. What about it?


you believe some nutty bullshit


i am catholic as well and i dont go to church or believe in god


you're not catholic then
I know that I have never once considered how my TV viewing habits impact the progression of civilization. --Bibbit
_Darwin_
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2374 Posts
October 23 2010 18:46 GMT
#368
On October 24 2010 03:43 Taosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2010 03:33 _Darwin_ wrote:
So if your manager willfully touched you and lured you into his bedroom to sleep and then unzipped your pants.. you'd be like "dats aight normal day good times"?

Please explain how it would be handled in Ukraine.

Well, if I were there I would have left his home right after that:

Show nested quote +
On October 24 2010 02:02 wonkyu wrote:
He laid his head on my lap and put arms around my shoulders
I was gross, and suspicious

I can't understand why did he stay. Here it's usually solved by punching molester's face and alarming other people that he's gay (in most cases this causes irreparable damage to reputation). Well, cultural differences...


But as people have said- he was 16 and had dropped out of school to join the team.

He obviously wouldn't want to piss off the manager. This isn't just "cultural" differences. It's someone in a position of power exploiting the vulnerable. It happens globally bro.
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hhrn
Profile Joined May 2010
157 Posts
October 23 2010 18:46 GMT
#369
now who will provide cella with money for hamburgers D:
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FoxSpirit
Profile Joined April 2010
Austria160 Posts
October 23 2010 18:46 GMT
#370
On October 24 2010 03:43 Etra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2010 03:30 FrostOtter wrote:
On October 24 2010 03:27 Etra wrote:


"Sexual assault is an assault of a sexual nature on another person."
Where is the assault in his post. Retard?

Legally, assault is just being touched in a way that the person you are touching does not want. Simple assault would be threatening to touch someone in a way in which they would not want to be touched. So yeah, this would be sexual assault.

EDIT: That is, in the US. I don't know the laws in Korea.


Did you get this out of a children's dictionary? So if I stroked your cheek and you did not like it, I would be assaulting you?


If I said 'please don't' or shied away, yes. And I just recently had a weird experience with grownups forcing themselves on children and thinking it a-ok.
If the kid doesn't want to kiss aunt Emma, it doesn't. Done.
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GoodRamen
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States713 Posts
October 23 2010 18:47 GMT
#371
On October 24 2010 03:43 Etra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2010 03:30 FrostOtter wrote:
On October 24 2010 03:27 Etra wrote:


"Sexual assault is an assault of a sexual nature on another person."
Where is the assault in his post. Retard?

Legally, assault is just being touched in a way that the person you are touching does not want. Simple assault would be threatening to touch someone in a way in which they would not want to be touched. So yeah, this would be sexual assault.

EDIT: That is, in the US. I don't know the laws in Korea.


Did you get this out of a children's dictionary? So if I stroked your cheek and you did not like it, I would be assaulting you?


please dont flame me but its different in this situation, you are not unzipping his pants when he is sleeping right?
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FrostOtter
Profile Joined September 2010
United States537 Posts
October 23 2010 18:47 GMT
#372
On October 24 2010 03:46 csfield wrote:


you're not catholic then

Generally referred to as a "lapsed" Catholic.

As far as the "nutty" stuff, we are as entitled to our beliefs as anyone else in the world. I'm not trashing you, am I?
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
October 23 2010 18:47 GMT
#373
Soju and other werra people, anyway that you can keep the roster then just replace the manager for the meantime?
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
October 23 2010 18:47 GMT
#374
I know koreans can be pretty handsome but this guy just went too far..
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eyeEX
Profile Joined June 2010
United States64 Posts
October 23 2010 18:48 GMT
#375
On October 24 2010 03:37 Congism wrote:
I can just see State of the Game now...


It's gonna be a good one.
ìX
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
October 23 2010 18:48 GMT
#376
On October 24 2010 03:42 Slow Motion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2010 03:40 wonkyu wrote:
On October 24 2010 03:23 Sadistic wrote:
On October 24 2010 03:19 MisS_Suna wrote:
On October 24 2010 03:15 Sadistic wrote:
Does anyone know what the korean laws are for actions like this?
Is it the same as the united states, where this guy would probably rot in prison for 5-10 years?
(which isn't nearly enough time imo)
Edit: I mean, what are likely consequences for this manager if someone seeks legal actions.



Arent u exaggurating it a bit too much? the guy didnt rape.. okay? pls.. everyone makes mistakes how disgusting they may be.. I dont think you should be this harsh to others.. i Know its revolting and not mannered at the very least but still.. people tend to follow a flock of haters and drive others to go commit suicide..

Just be sensible and dont overreact.


Fair enough. What punishment would you feel is fair, if any at all?



it isnt exaggated.
he tried to sexuall harass in this case, and the other one testified at www.playxp.com
and the victim said that I had anal sex with him by force
so it was clearly rape.
different case

woah that's pretty fucked up. got any translations?


ah i hope that didn't happen
Taosu
Profile Joined August 2010
Ukraine1074 Posts
October 23 2010 18:51 GMT
#377
On October 24 2010 03:46 _Darwin_ wrote:
But as people have said- he was 16 and had dropped out of school to join the team.

He obviously wouldn't want to piss off the manager. This isn't just "cultural" differences. It's someone in a position of power exploiting the vulnerable. It happens globally bro.

Yeah, he sure had power to convince. If victims just remained silent that could stretch for a long time. But in any case, I think having such people in charge is intolerable. I hope Werra will solve this problem soon and Gundam will get punished for what he did.
Also fan of Hyuk, Pure, free, Action, Stats, Leta, Horang2, Snow, Flying, Shuttle, Movie, Paralyze
leviathan20
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom193 Posts
October 23 2010 18:52 GMT
#378
Ugh this is a bit messed up, sorry to hear. Good luck to all ex-WeRRa members.

TLAF-Liquid'Cella ??

Yeah that's right.
"We better get that boy a waffle NOW or he gon' DIE!"
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
October 23 2010 18:53 GMT
#379
On October 24 2010 03:37 MisS_Suna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2010 03:30 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
On October 24 2010 03:27 MisS_Suna wrote:
On October 24 2010 03:23 Sadistic wrote:
On October 24 2010 03:19 MisS_Suna wrote:
On October 24 2010 03:15 Sadistic wrote:
Does anyone know what the korean laws are for actions like this?
Is it the same as the united states, where this guy would probably rot in prison for 5-10 years?
(which isn't nearly enough time imo)
Edit: I mean, what are likely consequences for this manager if someone seeks legal actions.



Arent u exaggurating it a bit too much? the guy didnt rape.. okay? pls.. everyone makes mistakes how disgusting they may be.. I dont think you should be this harsh to others.. i Know its revolting and not mannered at the very least but still.. people tend to follow a flock of haters and drive others to go commit suicide..

Just be sensible and dont overreact.


Fair enough. What punishment would you feel is fair, if any at all?


I dont think any.. THIS whole sherade put up in forums media is a very big punishment by itself.. the guy probably wont get a job and be scarred for life.. what more do u want? linch the guy?

People have no idea what kind of impact this has on the guy self..

Im just glad nothing happened to that Werra member

? Nothing happened to him? What, you can do anything with a person as long as you don't put ____ all the way in ____ or do you have to put ____ in there to?



there was an attempt .. there wasnt an actual physical act.. and for that im glad.. Also.. if you have a name like Gundam.werra does and something of this magnitude comes out..t he outcome is just devastating the media circus around it .. being linched out in the media circus is just horrendous as well.. im not trying to defend but i want u the consider his side.. he probably will get to hear this for decades to come and be judged accordingly.

I don't think that bad publicity is sufficient to protect people because there will be plenty of people that don't hear about this. Someone who attempts murder and someone who succeeds at it are just as likely mentally to try to murder, same with rape.
bLuR
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada625 Posts
October 23 2010 18:54 GMT
#380
this is twisted.. pooor cella
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