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xggamerx
Profile Joined September 2010
Israel9 Posts
October 07 2010 13:49 GMT
#181
europe:

me: xggamerx
hacker:tripstar
rep thread:http://uploading.com/files/a17f3e2c/suspicious%2Bpvt.SC2Replay/
Description :
well i proxy him he saw my probe but he didnt see that i was making gateway in his base and he stright sent 3 scv together on gateways and then minute 8:08 when i sent my units to kill the rocks on his side he stright sent marines there and when i sent my units back to his choke and again without vision he sent his marines back to the choke! just very suspicious i belive this dude hacks so i just want you to check it out

map:blistering sands
"Dont Beat someone Once and Think your Good, Beat them enough so They Know Your GooD"
Kibibit
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1551 Posts
October 07 2010 14:01 GMT
#182
That's only moderately suspicious at best. It's not implausible that he is a map hacker, but it's not definitive either. Almost everything you pointed out could be easily inferred, especially considering there were absolutely no feints. Anytime a player sees a probe disappear into their base without even attempting to scout around, it's not exactly uncanny to assume he may be proxying something. The only suspicious thing is the number of SCVs, which can be plausibly chalked up to it being an overreaction.
R.I.P. 우정호 || Do probes dream of psionic sheep?
xggamerx
Profile Joined September 2010
Israel9 Posts
October 07 2010 14:02 GMT
#183
another thing when he went to kill my pylon at proxy with scv and marine and i sent my zealots to attack it he moved his scv asap as i was coming look just unvision him too.
"Dont Beat someone Once and Think your Good, Beat them enough so They Know Your GooD"
Noam
Profile Joined September 2010
Israel2209 Posts
October 07 2010 14:54 GMT
#184
Your probe got to his base while he was building a 10depot, a standard 9pylon probe scout would normally reach his base later AFAIK. His reaction with the 3 SCVs is most likely due to him suspecting cheese when seeing such an early probe in his main.
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Elderbury
Profile Joined May 2010
United States10 Posts
October 10 2010 19:31 GMT
#185
Realm : North America
Your name : Elderbury
Hacker Name : Lugert
Replay : SC2S_2959_Lugert_vs_Elderbury_Lost_Temple.sc2replay
Description :
Not sure if this is a hack or not so thought I would seek the opinion of those more expert than I. I'm just a lowly bronze player who loses most of his matches, so I'm not complaining about that. But this guy immediately sent his SCV to my choke point at the beginning of the game so block my SCV from building a supply depot. Thing is, he never came into my base to see if I was there or not but just waited at the outside entrance. He never scouted any of the other possible starting locations. IF he had done this to all three possible starting locations, it could have been strategy. But why come to mine and wait for me without even scouting?


Replay is posted here:

http://rts-sanctuary.com/index.php?portal=SC2&showtopic=192188
Aim Here
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Scotland672 Posts
October 10 2010 21:08 GMT
#186
On October 11 2010 04:31 Elderbury wrote:
Realm : North America
Your name : Elderbury
Hacker Name : Lugert
Replay : SC2S_2959_Lugert_vs_Elderbury_Lost_Temple.sc2replay
Description :
Not sure if this is a hack or not so thought I would seek the opinion of those more expert than I. I'm just a lowly bronze player who loses most of his matches, so I'm not complaining about that. But this guy immediately sent his SCV to my choke point at the beginning of the game so block my SCV from building a supply depot. Thing is, he never came into my base to see if I was there or not but just waited at the outside entrance. He never scouted any of the other possible starting locations. IF he had done this to all three possible starting locations, it could have been strategy. But why come to mine and wait for me without even scouting?


Replay is posted here:

http://rts-sanctuary.com/index.php?portal=SC2&showtopic=192188


It's hard to tell. The SCV movement on it's own isn't much evidence, since it could be that he got lucky picking the first base to scout, and moved the worker to the front door with the intention of scouting further into the base when he next got round to moving it, but when your SCV came out to build your depot, then the scout accomplished it's mission.

There are three suspicious peeps into your base from the first person view, those at 2:32, 2:42 and 4:04. It's possible he was maphacking, but the explanation for the 2:32 peep might be that he wanted to remind himself of the placement of your buildings. I can't think of any real reason for the other two peeps.

He doesn't do anything else that looks like maphacking, partly because he doesn't appear to check the minimap often enough (doesn't see your forces charging the front door, for instance), and partly because you didn't expo or park units somewhere where it would have been obvious if he suddenly checked them out through fog.

So there's some suspicious behaviour, but not enough for me to say for sure one way or another if he's cheating.
xaeiu
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
432 Posts
October 17 2010 00:26 GMT
#187
On October 11 2010 06:08 Aim Here wrote:
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On October 11 2010 04:31 Elderbury wrote:
Realm : North America
Your name : Elderbury
Hacker Name : Lugert
Replay : SC2S_2959_Lugert_vs_Elderbury_Lost_Temple.sc2replay
Description :
Not sure if this is a hack or not so thought I would seek the opinion of those more expert than I. I'm just a lowly bronze player who loses most of his matches, so I'm not complaining about that. But this guy immediately sent his SCV to my choke point at the beginning of the game so block my SCV from building a supply depot. Thing is, he never came into my base to see if I was there or not but just waited at the outside entrance. He never scouted any of the other possible starting locations. IF he had done this to all three possible starting locations, it could have been strategy. But why come to mine and wait for me without even scouting?


Replay is posted here:

http://rts-sanctuary.com/index.php?portal=SC2&showtopic=192188


It's hard to tell. The SCV movement on it's own isn't much evidence, since it could be that he got lucky picking the first base to scout, and moved the worker to the front door with the intention of scouting further into the base when he next got round to moving it, but when your SCV came out to build your depot, then the scout accomplished it's mission.

There are three suspicious peeps into your base from the first person view, those at 2:32, 2:42 and 4:04. It's possible he was maphacking, but the explanation for the 2:32 peep might be that he wanted to remind himself of the placement of your buildings. I can't think of any real reason for the other two peeps.

He doesn't do anything else that looks like maphacking, partly because he doesn't appear to check the minimap often enough (doesn't see your forces charging the front door, for instance), and partly because you didn't expo or park units somewhere where it would have been obvious if he suddenly checked them out through fog.

So there's some suspicious behaviour, but not enough for me to say for sure one way or another if he's cheating.


i really agree with Aim Here here.
just went over that replay since i got a lil bit of time...
and assuming that he's also a bronze player or something, i would say it's pretty obvious that he is not map hacking because i see many of my opponents pretty much acting the same way..even on higher leagues...
the scv was only a thing of lucky timing and the reason why he didn't go for any other locations for scouting is just that he went for one of the two routes you usually go for on this map...and he just picked the lucky one
the three views on 2.32, 2.42 and 4.04 were all initally at different locations of your base which he discovered with his scv but he didn't really pay attention which building they exactly were when he scouted you because you harassed his scouting scv and he went for some macro moves insted of really microing his scv out of trouble...so he just made sure what exactly he was scouting...
and as Aim Here already said the other stuff doesn't really show anthing that might be suspicous...
aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
October 19 2010 02:11 GMT
#188
On October 03 2010 23:26 Cataphract wrote:
Realm : North America
Your name : Cataphract
Hacker Name : Jcizzler
Replay : http://www.mediafire.com/?0gdt89ixatwdcex
Description :
8 Rax 9 Refinery build for reapers. I was able to stop it after losing like 10 probes.
Obvious things to note :
Set his barrack rally point just outside my base without scouting on Lost Temple.
Only used scan to gain vision of the high ground before he attacked.


Watched this replay from his perspective. No chance he was hacking.

He scouted with his reaper (normal), and scouted you first at the close air position. Totally normal. Not sure what your point is about the scan... he already saw all the stuff in your main with his reapers, he just needed vision to shoot up and not walk into any bad situations.
aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
October 19 2010 02:51 GMT
#189
On October 04 2010 00:42 Hister wrote:
Realm : North America
Your name : Hister.526
Hacker Name : ssamjang.390
Replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/87293-1v1-terran-zerg-blistering-sands#rd:undefined;markup
Description :
I usually don't report hackers but this 1500 point diamond hacker went to far cutting off zerglings scouts with marines by running across map looking at my base in fog dozens of times never scanning juking my units with his drop ships across map and even running away from me in my own base was just such a obvious hack.
Obvious things to note :
Never scanned me once, cuts off my zergling scouts he sent units at bottom of the map to the top prefect timing. You can just tell hes hacking the 2 major hacking points that won the game for him though were the drop ships juking me no vision of my units and his mass mmm tank ball kept going back and froth dodging me with out vision between my ramp and expo was just to prefect for a scrub like him.



Tend to agree that this one is a hacker. LOTS of peeks at the zerg main throughout the early game, plus really unlikely reactions to lings that were not in vision yet.
best examples:
5:18 a zergling scout comes out of the zerg nat, four marines stop shooting rocks and instantly a-move at the ling. They go back to the rocks, leaving no plausible reason for the foray (other than seeing the ling).
6:20 a ling scout moves out along a northern path. Marines which are moving towards the barracks rally point southerly again react without vision. The marines do not take a watchtower or do anything to justify having pulled them off the rally point.

This combined with really fishy army movements (but horrible unit control) lead me to believe ssamjang is in fact a hacker.
aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
October 19 2010 03:01 GMT
#190
On October 05 2010 03:20 Flyingdutchman wrote:
Realm : EU
Your name : Swiminzerg & Wowsukz
Hacker Names : Antimatter.628 & Jigzaw.302
Replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/87759-2v2-protoss-zerg-tempest
Description : PP v ZZ on Tempest, they rush lings without scouting. So I check replay and see one of them rally his hatch to our base even before building his pool or any form of scouting. Jigzaw even follows our probes that go build our initial pilons, i.e. looking at us through FOW



I'm not able to view this replay, not sure why... when I try, I get a black screen with a SC2 mouse cursor.
Thunderfist
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Poland159 Posts
October 22 2010 22:09 GMT
#191
Realm : Europe
Your name : Thunderfist
Hacker Name : raiN
Replay : http://www.mediafire.com/?2ujklsdlw0th4p0
Description :
Watching into fog of war that wasnt uncovered for him right from the beginning. Game lagged at the beginning and end what meant he was turning on and off his cheat.
Obvious things to note :
Blind countering, constantly watching where my army is in fog.
...has arrived.
ZomgTossRush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1041 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-23 02:02:38
October 23 2010 01:57 GMT
#192
On October 07 2010 17:22 arb wrote:
All replays from pages 1-8 are added, ill try to get to the ones here later

Also, take ZOMGtossrush as a warning, dont post obviously fake replays in this thread, one is bad but posting what 5? times is just stupid.

Also as drophacks are hard to confirm with the fact that bnet 2.0 is kinda..shitty, try to avoid posting those aswell, unless they are mapping or somethinglike that(basically idk how you would prove them)



for the record, i have only posted suspecting 3 players, and this is after i have about 1200 1v1 games.

Thanks for all the ppl who said i posted 5 and was constantly posting, got a ban because you didn't get your facts straight :/

This thread needs to be edited. So that there is some sort of guidelines of what is suscipion, and what isn't. Because there is not set rules of what can/can't be posted. I saw a guy looking through the fog of war at the start of the round, and i suspected. Apparently I was incorrect suspecting maphacks using that as evidence.

Mods, maybe you can discuss more clearly what is accepted for posts so I don't get confused again.
Coaching for 1v1 and Team games at Gosucoaching.com
aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
October 23 2010 02:25 GMT
#193
On October 23 2010 07:09 Thunderfist wrote:
Realm : Europe
Your name : Thunderfist
Hacker Name : raiN
Replay : http://www.mediafire.com/?2ujklsdlw0th4p0
Description :
Watching into fog of war that wasnt uncovered for him right from the beginning. Game lagged at the beginning and end what meant he was turning on and off his cheat.
Obvious things to note :
Blind countering, constantly watching where my army is in fog.


Saw zero evidence of hacking here.
-Watching into fog of war that wasnt uncovered for him right from the beginning
He looked at your base once within the first 20 seconds of the game.
-Blind countering
It was a mirror matchup, you both had similar army comps, so not sure what you're talking about.
-constantly watching where my army is in fog
I never saw this happen during the game.

Unless you uploaded the wrong replay(?), i don't think you understand what to look for to detect a maphack. In my opinion, you should be very careful about accusing people of hacking, when in this case you were simply outplayed (he had at least 10 more workers by the 12 minute mark, you did not have an expo and had not even saturated your main base!)

aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
October 23 2010 03:34 GMT
#194
On October 23 2010 10:57 zomgtossrush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2010 17:22 arb wrote:
All replays from pages 1-8 are added, ill try to get to the ones here later

Also, take ZOMGtossrush as a warning, dont post obviously fake replays in this thread, one is bad but posting what 5? times is just stupid.

Also as drophacks are hard to confirm with the fact that bnet 2.0 is kinda..shitty, try to avoid posting those aswell, unless they are mapping or somethinglike that(basically idk how you would prove them)



for the record, i have only posted suspecting 3 players, and this is after i have about 1200 1v1 games.

Thanks for all the ppl who said i posted 5 and was constantly posting, got a ban because you didn't get your facts straight :/

This thread needs to be edited. So that there is some sort of guidelines of what is suscipion, and what isn't. Because there is not set rules of what can/can't be posted. I saw a guy looking through the fog of war at the start of the round, and i suspected. Apparently I was incorrect suspecting maphacks using that as evidence.

Mods, maybe you can discuss more clearly what is accepted for posts so I don't get confused again.


You accused KeepSeven twice, total of four accusations. And every single one of your accusations was completely unfounded, not even suspicious. And you had several silly defensive posts about your accusations, one of which you got warned for.

What is truly ironic, is that you now accuse the reviewers in this thread of being the reason you got banned. You got banned for what is essentially libel, false accusations and slander, and you respond by coming back to this thread and accusing even more.

You need to accept the fact that you get outplayed sometimes, and that is was your own fault you got banned. You are the only person who fails to see it that way, so either accept the facts or else decide that this thread is not the right place to solve your 'hacker problems'.
ZomgTossRush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1041 Posts
October 23 2010 04:29 GMT
#195
On October 23 2010 12:34 aidnai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 10:57 zomgtossrush wrote:
On October 07 2010 17:22 arb wrote:
All replays from pages 1-8 are added, ill try to get to the ones here later

Also, take ZOMGtossrush as a warning, dont post obviously fake replays in this thread, one is bad but posting what 5? times is just stupid.

Also as drophacks are hard to confirm with the fact that bnet 2.0 is kinda..shitty, try to avoid posting those aswell, unless they are mapping or somethinglike that(basically idk how you would prove them)



for the record, i have only posted suspecting 3 players, and this is after i have about 1200 1v1 games.

Thanks for all the ppl who said i posted 5 and was constantly posting, got a ban because you didn't get your facts straight :/

This thread needs to be edited. So that there is some sort of guidelines of what is suscipion, and what isn't. Because there is not set rules of what can/can't be posted. I saw a guy looking through the fog of war at the start of the round, and i suspected. Apparently I was incorrect suspecting maphacks using that as evidence.

Mods, maybe you can discuss more clearly what is accepted for posts so I don't get confused again.


You accused KeepSeven twice, total of four accusations. And every single one of your accusations was completely unfounded, not even suspicious. And you had several silly defensive posts about your accusations, one of which you got warned for.

What is truly ironic, is that you now accuse the reviewers in this thread of being the reason you got banned. You got banned for what is essentially libel, false accusations and slander, and you respond by coming back to this thread and accusing even more.

You need to accept the fact that you get outplayed sometimes, and that is was your own fault you got banned. You are the only person who fails to see it that way, so either accept the facts or else decide that this thread is not the right place to solve your 'hacker problems'.


All i did was post that I thought ppl were hacking. Isn't that what this thread is for? I can be wrong or right, but i had suspicion. Maybe my suspicion weren't solid enough, in which you can tell me so. As i suggested, there should be some sort of basic guidelines for what is possible evidence for hacking.

That is all.

When 3-4 posters are(implying) saying I am spamming this thread with all of my loses and start attacking me that I can't handle loses, its pretty fucking demeaning. You don't know me. Why would you take things to a personal level?

Like i was trying to defend myself, pre-ban. I have well over 1000 games played. I think its reasonable to think that of those 1k plus games someone might be hacking. And clearly with my now 600+ loses, i don't rage and just post every lose on this thread like you are trying to convince ppl i do.

I never have/tried to "fuck with this thread" as the mods claim I have tried. I just have some replays where ppl look through the fog. If there are any more clearcut ways to detect hackers, i would love to know, honestly, hence the request for a more indepth OP. Because even if i meet a player who stares at my base more than his own, and want to post that, I am afraid to because in my experience, its "he better be hacking or you get a 2 week ban."

I love tl, and the mods, but I think some of the users are simply immature(like you). And when these users throw personal insults me for my suspiciousness, its pretty bm. I don't see other ppl on this thread get chastised for "getting it wrong," as so many ppl/mods have done to me.

Can't we all just get along?
Coaching for 1v1 and Team games at Gosucoaching.com
CptThule
Profile Joined October 2010
Greece5 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-25 09:18:48
October 23 2010 17:08 GMT
#196
Realm : Europe
Your name : CptThule
Hacker Name : Ugulup.772
Replay : http://rapidshare.com/files/426742425/cheater.SC2Replay
Description :
Its a TvP match,i was doing the iechoic build,and he knew exactly when my medvac would reach his base and at what angle.
He then started chasing it around the map even thought he couldnt normally know where my medvac was.(his observer was with his army)
Obvious things to note :
After watching the replay from his point of view,i noticed him looking at my base throught the fog of war multiple times.
The medvac chase was pretty funny thought,and i still managed to drop him.:p

He later told me this was a smurf account and that his previous account(top diamond ranked)was banned due to complains about spamming/flaming(yeah right..)

+ Show Spoiler +
ps:not a great first post but w/e


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also,searching google for ugulup i found his previous account (diamond) that propably was banned(last played game 3 weeks ago) and bans from other games like badcompany2.
He seems to be using hacks everywhere and always..

aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
October 24 2010 22:25 GMT
#197
Hacker confirmation Ugulup
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On October 24 2010 02:08 CptThule wrote:
Realm : Europe
Your name : CptThule
Hacker Name : Ugulup
Replay : http://rapidshare.com/files/426742425/cheater.SC2Replay
Description :
Its a TvP match,i was doing the iechoic build,and he knew exactly when my medvac would reach his base and at what angle.
He then started chasing it around the map even thought he couldnt normally know where my medvac was.(his observer was with his army)
Obvious things to note :
After watching the replay from his point of view,i noticed him looking at my base throught the fog of war multiple times.
The medvac chase was pretty funny thought,and i still managed to drop him.:p

He later told me this was a smurf account and that his previous account(top diamond ranked)was banned due to complains about spamming/flaming(yeah right..)

+ Show Spoiler +
ps:not a great first post but w/e



Yay first post!
So yeah, this does look like maphacks. The more damning evidence is the frequent looks through the fog... In the early game, your hacker does a great job reacting to the minimap and not constantly looking through the fog, but by 15 minutes, he seems to give up on that and just looks.

5:30 looking at base
13:12 looking at army in fog
16:00 finds the dropship
16:18 looks at MM force under fog
16:38 looking at MM again
18:36 looks at marine controlling XNT
several times from 16:00 to 20:00 looking at army at terran nat
20:30 inspects entire terran army/base
23:10 more inspection of the army/nat

so yeah, after 16 minutes or so he is constantly looking at your base, nat, and army under fog.

Good job beating him though! btw, please please make sure you add the character code to your post.



Response to zomgtossrush
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On October 23 2010 13:29 zomgtossrush wrote:
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On October 23 2010 12:34 aidnai wrote:
On October 23 2010 10:57 zomgtossrush wrote:
On October 07 2010 17:22 arb wrote:
All replays from pages 1-8 are added, ill try to get to the ones here later

Also, take ZOMGtossrush as a warning, dont post obviously fake replays in this thread, one is bad but posting what 5? times is just stupid.

Also as drophacks are hard to confirm with the fact that bnet 2.0 is kinda..shitty, try to avoid posting those aswell, unless they are mapping or somethinglike that(basically idk how you would prove them)



for the record, i have only posted suspecting 3 players, and this is after i have about 1200 1v1 games.

Thanks for all the ppl who said i posted 5 and was constantly posting, got a ban because you didn't get your facts straight :/

This thread needs to be edited. So that there is some sort of guidelines of what is suscipion, and what isn't. Because there is not set rules of what can/can't be posted. I saw a guy looking through the fog of war at the start of the round, and i suspected. Apparently I was incorrect suspecting maphacks using that as evidence.

Mods, maybe you can discuss more clearly what is accepted for posts so I don't get confused again.


You accused KeepSeven twice, total of four accusations. And every single one of your accusations was completely unfounded, not even suspicious. And you had several silly defensive posts about your accusations, one of which you got warned for.

What is truly ironic, is that you now accuse the reviewers in this thread of being the reason you got banned. You got banned for what is essentially libel, false accusations and slander, and you respond by coming back to this thread and accusing even more.

You need to accept the fact that you get outplayed sometimes, and that is was your own fault you got banned. You are the only person who fails to see it that way, so either accept the facts or else decide that this thread is not the right place to solve your 'hacker problems'.


All i did was post that I thought ppl were hacking. Isn't that what this thread is for? I can be wrong or right, but i had suspicion. Maybe my suspicion weren't solid enough, in which you can tell me so. As i suggested, there should be some sort of basic guidelines for what is possible evidence for hacking.

That is all.

When 3-4 posters are(implying) saying I am spamming this thread with all of my loses and start attacking me that I can't handle loses, its pretty fucking demeaning. You don't know me. Why would you take things to a personal level?

Like i was trying to defend myself, pre-ban. I have well over 1000 games played. I think its reasonable to think that of those 1k plus games someone might be hacking. And clearly with my now 600+ loses, i don't rage and just post every lose on this thread like you are trying to convince ppl i do.

I never have/tried to "fuck with this thread" as the mods claim I have tried. I just have some replays where ppl look through the fog. If there are any more clearcut ways to detect hackers, i would love to know, honestly, hence the request for a more indepth OP. Because even if i meet a player who stares at my base more than his own, and want to post that, I am afraid to because in my experience, its "he better be hacking or you get a 2 week ban."

I love tl, and the mods, but I think some of the users are simply immature(like you). And when these users throw personal insults me for my suspiciousness, its pretty bm. I don't see other ppl on this thread get chastised for "getting it wrong," as so many ppl/mods have done to me.

Can't we all just get along?


I would like to get along. That's why I did my absolute best not to use insults or demeaning language.

The issue is not that everyone in this thread decided "he better be hacking or you get a 2 week ban." The issue is that there needs to be some evidence, any evidence at all of hacking in the replays you submit. If you are genuinely unable to see that your hacking reports were frivolous, I suggest you take a look at replays of confirmed hackers (there are plenty in this thread) to get a feel for it.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-24 22:40:23
October 24 2010 22:37 GMT
#198
On October 25 2010 07:25 aidnai wrote:
Hacker confirmation Ugulup
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On October 24 2010 02:08 CptThule wrote:
Realm : Europe
Your name : CptThule
Hacker Name : Ugulup
Replay : http://rapidshare.com/files/426742425/cheater.SC2Replay
Description :
Its a TvP match,i was doing the iechoic build,and he knew exactly when my medvac would reach his base and at what angle.
He then started chasing it around the map even thought he couldnt normally know where my medvac was.(his observer was with his army)
Obvious things to note :
After watching the replay from his point of view,i noticed him looking at my base throught the fog of war multiple times.
The medvac chase was pretty funny thought,and i still managed to drop him.:p

He later told me this was a smurf account and that his previous account(top diamond ranked)was banned due to complains about spamming/flaming(yeah right..)

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ps:not a great first post but w/e



Yay first post!
So yeah, this does look like maphacks. The more damning evidence is the frequent looks through the fog... In the early game, your hacker does a great job reacting to the minimap and not constantly looking through the fog, but by 15 minutes, he seems to give up on that and just looks.

5:30 looking at base
13:12 looking at army in fog
16:00 finds the dropship
16:18 looks at MM force under fog
16:38 looking at MM again
18:36 looks at marine controlling XNT
several times from 16:00 to 20:00 looking at army at terran nat
20:30 inspects entire terran army/base
23:10 more inspection of the army/nat

so yeah, after 16 minutes or so he is constantly looking at your base, nat, and army under fog.

Good job beating him though! btw, please please make sure you add the character code to your post.



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On October 23 2010 13:29 zomgtossrush wrote:
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On October 23 2010 12:34 aidnai wrote:
On October 23 2010 10:57 zomgtossrush wrote:
On October 07 2010 17:22 arb wrote:
All replays from pages 1-8 are added, ill try to get to the ones here later

Also, take ZOMGtossrush as a warning, dont post obviously fake replays in this thread, one is bad but posting what 5? times is just stupid.

Also as drophacks are hard to confirm with the fact that bnet 2.0 is kinda..shitty, try to avoid posting those aswell, unless they are mapping or somethinglike that(basically idk how you would prove them)



for the record, i have only posted suspecting 3 players, and this is after i have about 1200 1v1 games.

Thanks for all the ppl who said i posted 5 and was constantly posting, got a ban because you didn't get your facts straight :/

This thread needs to be edited. So that there is some sort of guidelines of what is suscipion, and what isn't. Because there is not set rules of what can/can't be posted. I saw a guy looking through the fog of war at the start of the round, and i suspected. Apparently I was incorrect suspecting maphacks using that as evidence.

Mods, maybe you can discuss more clearly what is accepted for posts so I don't get confused again.


You accused KeepSeven twice, total of four accusations. And every single one of your accusations was completely unfounded, not even suspicious. And you had several silly defensive posts about your accusations, one of which you got warned for.

What is truly ironic, is that you now accuse the reviewers in this thread of being the reason you got banned. You got banned for what is essentially libel, false accusations and slander, and you respond by coming back to this thread and accusing even more.

You need to accept the fact that you get outplayed sometimes, and that is was your own fault you got banned. You are the only person who fails to see it that way, so either accept the facts or else decide that this thread is not the right place to solve your 'hacker problems'.


All i did was post that I thought ppl were hacking. Isn't that what this thread is for? I can be wrong or right, but i had suspicion. Maybe my suspicion weren't solid enough, in which you can tell me so. As i suggested, there should be some sort of basic guidelines for what is possible evidence for hacking.

That is all.

When 3-4 posters are(implying) saying I am spamming this thread with all of my loses and start attacking me that I can't handle loses, its pretty fucking demeaning. You don't know me. Why would you take things to a personal level?

Like i was trying to defend myself, pre-ban. I have well over 1000 games played. I think its reasonable to think that of those 1k plus games someone might be hacking. And clearly with my now 600+ loses, i don't rage and just post every lose on this thread like you are trying to convince ppl i do.

I never have/tried to "fuck with this thread" as the mods claim I have tried. I just have some replays where ppl look through the fog. If there are any more clearcut ways to detect hackers, i would love to know, honestly, hence the request for a more indepth OP. Because even if i meet a player who stares at my base more than his own, and want to post that, I am afraid to because in my experience, its "he better be hacking or you get a 2 week ban."

I love tl, and the mods, but I think some of the users are simply immature(like you). And when these users throw personal insults me for my suspiciousness, its pretty bm. I don't see other ppl on this thread get chastised for "getting it wrong," as so many ppl/mods have done to me.

Can't we all just get along?


I would like to get along. That's why I did my absolute best not to use insults or demeaning language.

The issue is not that everyone in this thread decided "he better be hacking or you get a 2 week ban." The issue is that there needs to be some evidence, any evidence at all of hacking in the replays you submit. If you are genuinely unable to see that your hacking reports were frivolous, I suggest you take a look at replays of confirmed hackers (there are plenty in this thread) to get a feel for it.

How about instead of responding we keep read the OP, and keep talk on replays and not on his false accusations(which i dont particularly care about) and ill probably update this after i get back from work tonight,(by tonight i mean in 13 hours ~_~)

However, if you want to come up with a list of things not to submit(for replays that are clearly false) like you suggested earlier that would be great!
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Evoslayer
Profile Joined October 2010
United States43 Posts
October 25 2010 09:55 GMT
#199
Realm : North America
Your name : Evoslayer
Hacker Name : ggmylife
Replay : http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=160416
Description :
I'm not convinced that ths guy was map hacking but there were a few things that made me wonder,

at 14 minutes he goes around the map and snipes the overlords I have at each expansion, every time I try to expand to a third he sends his entire army at exactly that time to take it out, He never builds an observer or a robotics facility for that matter, when I push at his third he sends units to protect it before he sees my army coming.

All of these things could be explained by him being an excelent player, but he also did a bunch f really stupid things and he only had 70 APM so I was hoping some of you guys would want to look at the replay and tell me what you think

1400 diamond BTW
midgettoes
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia180 Posts
October 25 2010 11:02 GMT
#200
On October 25 2010 18:55 Evoslayer wrote:
Realm : North America
Your name : Evoslayer
Hacker Name : ggmylife
Replay : http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=160416
Description :
I'm not convinced that ths guy was map hacking but there were a few things that made me wonder,

at 14 minutes he goes around the map and snipes the overlords I have at each expansion, every time I try to expand to a third he sends his entire army at exactly that time to take it out, He never builds an observer or a robotics facility for that matter, when I push at his third he sends units to protect it before he sees my army coming.

All of these things could be explained by him being an excelent player, but he also did a bunch f really stupid things and he only had 70 APM so I was hoping some of you guys would want to look at the replay and tell me what you think

1400 diamond BTW


Hey didn't have time to watch the whole thing as thoroughly as I would have liked, however, just watching the first 2 mins, he constantly looks at your base through fog. Very suspicious to start for me.

After that I agree about the bases. His timing on the pushes could have been perfect, and the overlords he could have genuinely done that in any game. But combine them both, with the opening 2 mins and the fact that at about err I think it was 16 mins he looks at your army of hydra ling through fog then back to base. And constant fog looking really.

Anyway, hacker for me. Will try to write more when I get home though.
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