On May 29 2004 00:02 Mandalor wrote:
rofl what a stupid thread...
ali was into BOXING - Lee into karate or whatever
that's like comparing lee with duke nukem: "hey lee is a good fighter, but duke has this heavy mashine gun!!"

lol we talkin abt MELEE u idiot ;p j/k

Mydnyte

3306 Posts

May 28 2004 15:24 GMT

#145

Bruce Lee would fucking WORK the guy.

kuwakJai

Thailand198 Posts

May 28 2004 15:25 GMT

#146

PLEASE, DO NOT FUCKING COMPARE THESE TWO LEGENDS.
ALI IS A BOXER.
LEE IS A FIGHTER.

there is a difference.
and both r gods in their own right. just leave it at that.
anything else said otherwise ... u don't know what ur talking about.

amat

United States1788 Posts

May 28 2004 15:29 GMT

#147

On May 28 2004 23:59 FiGhtAsBlind wrote:

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Why did you have to include "azn"? Isn't a 140lb man a 140lb man?"

Added that for emphasis... It's one of the major reasons he is so overrated; every azn is in love with the little guy that can take on big mean Americans.

From the Joe Lewis interview at that devinewind site: "Bruce was not a fighter. He was an actor and a teacher. He was a great teacher."

ObsoleteLogic

United States3676 Posts

May 28 2004 15:32 GMT

#148

Actually I'd have to say it depends on the rules. If killing/permanent damage is out of the question, I'd give favor to Ali, simply because his size/reach.

However, if its no holds barred, then Lee hands down. Ali was fast, yes, but he didn't have the same kind of quickness that Lee did; and when it comes to killing another man, quickness and power (and knowledge of pressure points/disabling moves) beats strength and speed.

Plus while Ali no doubt had a lot of stamina, I'd warrant Bruce had more just on account of his tremendous conditioning. Worst case scenario he could wear Ali down some by simple evasion, to the point he could find an opening.

Just my 2 cents.

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Braavos36402 Posts

May 28 2004 15:36 GMT

#149

whoever thinks a boxer can beat a guy who trained to kill people is stupid

NewbSaibot

3849 Posts

May 28 2004 15:39 GMT

#150

Well i take it ALI probably knew a little something about pressure points and areas to strike as well. And with his incredible mass, it just makes finding such points on his body all the more harder for Lee. Its really simple imo: One hit from ALI, youre done. One hit from Bruce, and youre fine. (In ALI's body that is). Talk about wearing someone out? ALI routinely fought upwards of 12 round matches, each consisting of 3 minutes i think. Thats over half an hour of pure movement, punching, being hit, etc etc. Do you realise the incredible conditioning that takes? You think bruce lee ever actively fought someone for a half hour at a time strait? Hell no, what little fights he probably ever participated in were done in a matter of seconds-minutes because thats the purpose of martial arts. That doesnt mean that bruce can end in fight in that same time with any person on the planet however.

SoLaR[i.C]

United States2969 Posts

May 28 2004 15:40 GMT

#151

Holy Crap... I just read some of the "Feats" Section on that Bruce Lee site.
*Striking speed from 3ft. away five-hundredths of a second*
*threw grains of rice in the air and caught them w/ chopsticks*
*could jab his fingers through an unopened soda can (when the cans were made of steel)*
*exploded 100lb punching bags with his sidekick*
did push ups on his thumbs, then w/ 250lbs on his back, then would move on to his other exercises.*
*held 120lb barbell out horizontally in front of him for 20 seconds when he himself weighed in barely over 130.*
*other crazy shit nobody else could do* =O

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Braavos36402 Posts

May 28 2004 15:41 GMT

#152

On May 29 2004 00:29 amat wrote:

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okay there are asians who are Americans, so lets not assume okay?

your rhetoric screams prejudice, it implies all asians are small (maybe in asia, but in America second and third generation not so) and that asians aren't americans. not all americans are white and large. not all asians or "azns" as you say are tiny and obsessed with their obvious "inferiority" as compared to big Americans, or wait, you mean white people.

i'm not calling you a racist but your statement was not without bias. simply denying and justifying it with your second post proves that.

last i checked (on the gallery) you are Caucasian American--there are Asians who are just as American as you are. if i made a generalization like "all white women are obsessed with..." would you not take offense? come on now amat.

NewbSaibot

3849 Posts

May 28 2004 15:41 GMT

#153

Whoever thinks some random guy who can flex a good ripped torso on camera can walk up to a heavy weight champion of the world and just beat him up, is stupid.

SoLaR[i.C]

United States2969 Posts

May 28 2004 15:43 GMT

#154

On May 29 2004 00:39 NewbSaibot wrote:
One hit from Bruce, and youre fine. (In ALI's body that is).

That's rediculous. Especially after I read on the site that it was observed that he often sent ppl. weighing over 100lbs more than him flying 10+ feet from a single punch..

NewbSaibot

3849 Posts

May 28 2004 15:44 GMT

#155

god solaric, try to maintain a brain here ok? Do i really need to point out the obvious idiocy in what that site is claiming?

SoLaR[i.C]

United States2969 Posts

May 28 2004 15:46 GMT

#156

It's not just the site, I've heard these facts several other places as well. Including his book he wrote while he was injured. Which I have read cover to cover.

NewbSaibot

3849 Posts

May 28 2004 15:46 GMT

#157

Besides, there is no question that Ali could punch much harder than Lee. So i guess that means if he were to hit a standing person too, they'd fly what, 20+ feet?

hk[hanbyul]

Canada149 Posts

May 28 2004 15:47 GMT

#158

solar..their not 100lbs bags..james coburn described it being 300lbs that came off its chain and flew 5 feet away with sand coming out of it ripping down the middle..

kuwakJai

Thailand198 Posts

May 28 2004 15:47 GMT

#159

Lmfao.

those things you see on camera that Lee does.... yes they r real.
but man, don't you realize that no body has ever come close to realize his true potential? All is ask is that u name one person who can do what he does ON CAMERA what Lee does. Just one. ..... ok. There u have it. Don't fucking try to judge this guy.

Same with Ali. Talking about these two guys in comparison is a diss to their whole lives. Maybe compare shit like Jet Li to Bruce Lee... then we can have something to laugh about.

NewbSaibot

3849 Posts

May 28 2004 15:48 GMT

#160

The only places youve heard that lame crap from are other morons like yourself that believe it. The blind leadin the blind. And in his book there is no metion of him knocking people over 10 feet in mid air with a single punch, wtf are you talking about. Find the page, then tell me, cuz i have the book too.