On May 29 2004 01:34 hk[hanbyul] wrote:
newb..those things are not impossible it didnt happen, james coburn said it himself on bruce lee's biography.

A bit of a contradiction? I'll just assume you mistyped "didn't" and added n't when you didn't mean to.

Madox-101

Malaysia128 Posts

May 28 2004 16:37 GMT

#182

IF THIS IS A STREET FIGHT OR KICK BOXING MATCH BRUCE LEE WILL OWN ALI
IF THIS IS A NORMAL WITH REFEREE BOXING MATCH WHICH USES HANDS ONLY,THEN ALI WOULD WIN

NewbSaibot

3849 Posts

May 28 2004 16:38 GMT

#183

oh ok, he says so, thats good enough for me!

hk[hanbyul]

Canada149 Posts

May 28 2004 16:40 GMT

#184

yep it should be good enough.

kuwakJai

Thailand198 Posts

May 28 2004 16:44 GMT

#185

NewbSaibot... thank you. I respect your post. First of all... yes I will admit that I love Bruce. But in no way do I look at him upon an objective p.o.v. To be honest, Ive not read every single reply in this thread and don't know of the site references and fabrications that have been cultivated. What I truly believe in first and foremost is that these two legengs (Ali and Lee) have no right to be compared with each other. To do so would be like comparing air and water. And that is just a relative comparison. If you believe Ali would win in their fight, fine, I respect that. That is your opinion. Hell.... if such an even would occur I would have high doubts myself, but nonetheless I would say Lee, because his art, as I believe, will never be matched by anyone else in terms of skill, dexterity, character, and philosophy. However... I do see from your point of view. His one sense of skill by kicking backs, 1 inch punch, picking rice, etc , etc. really has no true light to his art. It is just a boat to the real art. What I can't stand, NewbSaibot... is how you try to belittle Bruce Lee, as if his art was not real, and not true to his manifestations. That , in its truest sense.... is what i really can't handle.

To be honest, whoever made this topic probably looked upon the two in comparison as nothing but legend idols, but I.... look upon as true legendary men who have no right to be compared. I know very intensively about these two in topic. What they have done through out their lives to make it happen is nothing to be typed about. But your opinion is your opinion. There is no talk about that. Just I want you to give credit where credit is due, and I agree that those sites or whatever that have been posted have little or no value to what these people really are.

Kindum_cn

China27 Posts

May 28 2004 16:44 GMT

#186

Alot of interesting things said here, seems quite heated already

Anyway, I thought it was a given that the fight would be basically nothing held back. Each fighter could use whatever technique he wishes, simply because Lee isn't a boxer. It's not just comparing the two fighters, but also their styles; the level each of them perform these styles just adds to the comparison.

These two were both fighters, afterall, just with their own techniques, and they both were considered the best of their type, so it would, indeed, be interesting to pit two such people in a fight :D

Kindum_cn

China27 Posts

May 28 2004 16:46 GMT

#187

It's basis is similar to Tyson stepping into the K-1 world.

hN)fighter

Bangladesh123 Posts

May 28 2004 17:15 GMT

#188

ali is quick but bruce is quicker and kicks.. allowing him to disable ali and bring him to the ground

Rickson Gracie (never beaten) Vs Bruce Lee <- fight id like to see

i think Rickson would win. Bruce was hands/feet, he has good ground skills but rickson is just too good on the ground as hes shown. bruce only won through spin kicks etc because he wasnt fighting grapplers or jui jitsu fighters like rickson.

hN)fighter

Bangladesh123 Posts

May 28 2004 17:16 GMT

#189

On May 29 2004 01:37 Madox-101 wrote:
IF THIS IS A STREET FIGHT OR KICK BOXING MATCH BRUCE LEE WILL OWN ALI
IF THIS IS A NORMAL WITH REFEREE BOXING MATCH WHICH USES HANDS ONLY,THEN ALI WOULD WIN

yeah nice comment

, of course ali would win hands only..

Ace

United States16096 Posts

May 28 2004 17:24 GMT

#190

On May 29 2004 01:08 NewbSaibot wrote:
Meh, people will believe what they want, even without evidence and when it not only defies all logic, defies pure and simple common sense. Yes, bruce lee juggled timber logs, flicked peoples heads off, stomped cracks into the pavement everywhere he went, shot lasers from his eyes and could move so fast his legs would actually travel back and forth through time kicking you your ass from the future and the past without you even knowing it.

funniest topic of the year, alot of you people are morons. Ali vs Lee, I think ali would just crush him. Not to take anything away from lee but speed and mass strength will>speed/strength. Seriously some of you are so hooked on Lee your saying things that just defy laws of common sense.

STIMEY d okgm fish

Canada6140 Posts

May 28 2004 17:26 GMT

#191

On May 29 2004 00:41 NewbSaibot wrote:
Whoever thinks some random guy who can flex a good ripped torso on camera can walk up to a heavy weight champion of the world and just beat him up, is stupid.

whoever thinks bruce lee is just "some random guy who can flex a good ripped torso on camera" IS A PIECE OF SHIT

On May 29 2004 00:39 NewbSaibot wrote:
Its really simple imo: One hit from ALI, youre done. One hit from Bruce, and youre fine. (In ALI's body that is). Talk about wearing someone out? ALI routinely fought upwards of 12 round matches, each consisting of 3 minutes i think.

shut the fuck up already and go read some shit about bruce lee, stop claiming they are just rumors you piece of shit troll. they are quoting this shit from sites and books, stop claiming they are rumors. if you want to discredit the sites and books then fine, but guess what, you havent done it, so ur just trolling.... or a real retard

STIMEY d okgm fish

Canada6140 Posts

May 28 2004 17:28 GMT

#192

troll. ..... ? no one said those things. wtf is the point of ur comment? so u dont believe things that various books and sites say? ok we already know that.. so justify ur position or eat shit, uve already made that same exact post a bazillion times

On May 29 2004 02:26 STIMEY d okgm fish wrote:

Show nested quote +

whoever thinks bruce lee is just "some random guy who can flex a good ripped torso on camera" IS A PIECE OF SHIT

Show nested quote +

Deleted User 3420

24492 Posts

May 28 2004 17:29 GMT

#193

someone once asked ali this question
Ali answered, "If we were boxing, me. If we did kung fu, him."

pretty fucking simple

Ace

United States16096 Posts

May 28 2004 17:31 GMT

#194

some of the sites people are quoting from, are they even credible? I DO believe some of the bruce lee talk that was stated earlier in the thread, but the rest was just absurd stuff being posted with no back up or linking to sites that are obviuosly off their rockers.

Deleted User 3420

24492 Posts

May 28 2004 17:34 GMT

#195

Oh, and btw you guys, there's probably a reason that pretty much all martial art forms that developed used kicks.

Zerius[TPR]

Canada1633 Posts

May 28 2004 18:04 GMT

#196

NewbSaibot is like the only sane person in this thread.

Deleted User 3420

24492 Posts

May 28 2004 18:06 GMT

#197

yeah you're right im insane

Zerius[TPR]

Canada1633 Posts

May 28 2004 18:09 GMT

#198

I dont mean to generalize, Im just skimming through the posts and notice a few names consistantly coming up, of those, hes the only guy using rational explanations of why X fighter would win.

The Lee supporters seem to think he would win because he could actch grains of sand with chopsticks, and kick people across a room, which is just hilariously false.

I havent seen any of your responses to this thread, so your sanity is still under review. Ill get back to you in a few minutes with the verdict.

baal

10541 Posts

May 28 2004 18:11 GMT

#199

On May 29 2004 02:29 travis wrote:
someone once asked ali this question
Ali answered, "If we were boxing, me. If we did kung fu, him."

pretty fucking simple

if they provide us with sticks we would both die at the same time

lol wtf

Zerius[TPR]

Canada1633 Posts

May 28 2004 18:12 GMT

#200

On May 28 2004 21:24 tossimeter wrote:
ali would win though.

http://www.myodynamics.com/articles/bruce.html <- very good article with good points!

People who think that Lee was some sort of epic demi god, please read this link.

EDIT: Travis due to your lack of involvement in this thread, I deem you mentally fit. Congratulations and have a nice day.