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zeox
Profile Joined November 2007
Norway314 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-25 09:50:01
June 25 2010 09:48 GMT
#1
We are looking into ways of letting you switch between servers, no matter whether you buy a European or American version of the game. As for the second question you won't be able to play in the same game using different servers, as we have never had global servers for our games. It is our goal for the future, but won't be there for release.

Source.

So, both cross-server play and chat channels are coming post-release. I guess Blizzard is listening to the community after all. Now all we need is better privacy options and bnet2.0 is starting to look pretty awesome
themineralpatch.com -- twitter.com/inged
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
June 25 2010 09:51 GMT
#2
THAT IS SO FREAKING NICE TO HEAR. So this solves the problem of participating in international tournaments but also if you want to play against friends from other continents :D
Practice partner thread anyone?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
Uriel_SVK
Profile Joined April 2010
Slovakia427 Posts
June 25 2010 09:51 GMT
#3
Taking back all the bad things I said or thought about Blizzard. They really seem to try hard to make all our dreams and wishes come true.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
June 25 2010 09:51 GMT
#4
This has been said already in the past days, although maybe not as clearly as here.
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-25 09:59:47
June 25 2010 09:53 GMT
#5
THATS SO FREAKING BAD TO HEAR.
comming one day.... perhaps..... and not sure if it will cost money.
dam this a bad news not good ones.

i think this are no nice to have options. like: "oh thx bliz for adding such features".
this are essential options. its like : you want to drive with your car in a other city.
Yeah we will do this in a upgrade but for moment pls stay in your city with it.

so this what they say is :
"done when its done" was the past.
game is ready in upgrade nr 20 is future...
Save gaming: kill esport
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
June 25 2010 09:53 GMT
#6
Just wondering how soon after release this will happen.
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Zhek
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada342 Posts
June 25 2010 09:55 GMT
#7
Shitstorm: Sucess!
Kantutan
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1319 Posts
June 25 2010 09:57 GMT
#8
I hope everyone will stop whining so much now. We'll be getting some form of chat channels, clans, and cross-server play post release. LAN is yet to be seen, but I'd put my money on there being something worked out in the end.
zeox
Profile Joined November 2007
Norway314 Posts
June 25 2010 09:59 GMT
#9
On June 25 2010 18:53 skeldark wrote:i think this are no nice to have options. like: "oh thx bliz for adding such features".
this are essential options. its like : you want to drive with your car in a other city.
Yeah we will do this in a upgrade but for moment pls stay in your city with it.
and you are happy oO

Considering the fact that they've previously stated that cross-realm play wouldn't be in the game at all, them saying that it's actually coming is waaayyy better than the alternative.
and i'm not saying "oh thx bliz for adding such features", i'm saying "thank god you came to your senses, Blizzard"
themineralpatch.com -- twitter.com/inged
Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
June 25 2010 10:07 GMT
#10
i'm pretty sure we'll have to pay for that, i hope the price won't exceed 5 or 10$
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Keype
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden455 Posts
June 25 2010 10:08 GMT
#11
Oh thanks god!
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Lighioana
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway466 Posts
June 25 2010 10:08 GMT
#12
Good to hear!
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RedTaisha
Profile Joined June 2010
United States51 Posts
June 25 2010 10:13 GMT
#13
This is great news .
One in a million is next Tuesday.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50577 Posts
June 25 2010 10:13 GMT
#14
Oh yeah!!!! I am so happy right now.....need cash to buy the game though....
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aka_star
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United Kingdom1546 Posts
June 25 2010 10:26 GMT
#15
Thank kittens for that!
FlashDave.999 aka Star
TheNomad
Profile Joined April 2010
United States134 Posts
June 25 2010 10:32 GMT
#16
God yes! Finally I can play with my Asian/European brethren!
theRiverX
Profile Joined June 2010
Malaysia59 Posts
June 25 2010 10:35 GMT
#17
Hoho yay! =D Well I guess Day9 was right about 'Blizzard ain't stupid'.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4350 Posts
June 25 2010 10:55 GMT
#18
wasn't bnet one giant global server prior to 1.08?
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qoiN
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden576 Posts
June 25 2010 11:05 GMT
#19
On June 25 2010 18:53 skeldark wrote:
THATS SO FREAKING BAD TO HEAR.
comming one day.... perhaps..... and not sure if it will cost money.
dam this a bad news not good ones.

i think this are no nice to have options. like: "oh thx bliz for adding such features".
this are essential options. its like : you want to drive with your car in a other city.
Yeah we will do this in a upgrade but for moment pls stay in your city with it.

so this what they say is :
"done when its done" was the past.
game is ready in upgrade nr 20 is future...


Bad to hear? They weren't even planning on doing this in the beginning. Now they listened to the community and wants to add it in. Blizzard has always been using words that only gives an approximate timeframe, nothing new here.

Your comparison is terrible.

None knows if it will cost money or not, so stop this stupid shit. And anyway I prefer paying $5 for cross-server than buying a new copy for $60 (and later on $120 for both expansions)
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
June 25 2010 11:09 GMT
#20
On June 25 2010 18:57 Kantutan wrote:
I hope everyone will stop whining so much now. We'll be getting some form of chat channels, clans, and cross-server play post release. LAN is yet to be seen, but I'd put my money on there being something worked out in the end.

they said they were working on lan also

meaning i can now re-order the game :D
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SoL[9]
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Portugal1370 Posts
June 25 2010 11:11 GMT
#21
Yeahhh!!!
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
June 25 2010 11:20 GMT
#22
On June 25 2010 18:57 Kantutan wrote:
I hope everyone will stop whining so much now. We'll be getting some form of chat channels, clans, and cross-server play post release. LAN is yet to be seen, but I'd put my money on there being something worked out in the end.

What's with the hate against whining? I am pretty sure that if it were not for all that whining and complaining, Blizzard would never have made all those promises. And even if they already had plans for this (they stated they had none), they certainly raised in priority.
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NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
June 25 2010 11:24 GMT
#23
They said Europe and North American, nothing about Asia is there? :|
Regardless, good news! LAN+X Server = My life is finally complete.
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razed.dead
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia79 Posts
June 25 2010 11:25 GMT
#24
Guess they had to give us something so people would stop bitching and saying "OMG I HAVE TO CANCEL THE PREORDER AND TELL ALL MY FRIENDS TO CANCEL THEIRS SO WE CAN PROVE A POINT!" in order to keep launch sales from slumping and all the stockholders happy.

Still though, saying that the features won't be available at release means they have from July 28 to ~infinity to implement these features which could take quite a while .. but it's still awesome
~too little, too late~
Merikh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States918 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-25 11:49:35
June 25 2010 11:46 GMT
#25
I'm confused; Haven't they stated all these things before? (Chat channel, Realms)

Only thing that hasn't been confirmed is personal lan option (non tournament based; since you can't practice on LAN at home games might feel completely different latency wise)
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Nitron
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore177 Posts
June 25 2010 11:48 GMT
#26
this is so confusing. First they said they were working on cross realm, then frank pierce came in and said there will be cross realm and the only way is to buy another copy. And now this blizzard poster says they are trying to integrate it, who the hell are we supposed to listen to now? lol
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7290 Posts
June 25 2010 11:55 GMT
#27
ill wait till i see it, like war3 replays
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zeox
Profile Joined November 2007
Norway314 Posts
June 25 2010 11:56 GMT
#28
On June 25 2010 20:24 NuKedUFirst wrote:
They said Europe and North American, nothing about Asia is there? :|
Regardless, good news! LAN+X Server = My life is finally complete.

Those two specific regions were used because of the question that was asked. Of course they are adding Asia into the equation.
themineralpatch.com -- twitter.com/inged
Boertie
Profile Joined July 2009
Netherlands98 Posts
June 25 2010 12:08 GMT
#29
It seems like blizzard is finally developing this advanced technology that allows for cross-region play!

Jeeh!
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jojoleb
Profile Joined April 2010
Lebanon180 Posts
June 25 2010 12:12 GMT
#30
yeah it was pretty good news !
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
June 25 2010 12:15 GMT
#31
if we have to pay for it i dont pay.
i dont pay for options that are essential.
when we start paying for cross... they think they can take money for everything.
so in some years they sell each unit alone. and if you dont have enough money you must play without tanks ^^

Save gaming: kill esport
GodIsNotHere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada395 Posts
June 25 2010 12:16 GMT
#32
On June 25 2010 21:08 Boertie wrote:
It seems like blizzard is finally developing this advanced technology that allows for cross-region play!

Jeeh!

Well you see blizzard used all the money they got from WoW to build a time machine an go back to retrieve the technology from 10 years ago, its the only explanation!
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WhistlingMtn
Profile Joined May 2010
United States190 Posts
June 25 2010 12:17 GMT
#33
On June 25 2010 21:08 Boertie wrote:
It seems like blizzard is finally developing this advanced technology that allows for cross-region play!

Jeeh!


The concepts aren't advanced, but producing a network that actually has consistent playable latencies between continents seems to be. Hopefully they can do it right and set up infrastructure for relays. I don't want every third game to have someone from the other side of the world lagging like crazy.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
June 25 2010 12:20 GMT
#34
On June 25 2010 20:46 Merikh wrote:
I'm confused; Haven't they stated all these things before? (Chat channel, Realms)

Only thing that hasn't been confirmed is personal lan option (non tournament based; since you can't practice on LAN at home games might feel completely different latency wise)

they said in a recent interview youd have to buy diff versions of the game to play crossrealm, and they said we didnt need chat rooms.

however after we bitched a bunch they decided to add it in
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GoDannY
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany442 Posts
June 25 2010 12:22 GMT
#35
This is really good to hear, but I'll hold my cheer for Blizzard until they finally release patches that contain these features that should've been in the game since the very beginning.
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Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
June 25 2010 12:25 GMT
#36
On June 25 2010 20:48 Nitron wrote:
this is so confusing. First they said they were working on cross realm, then frank pierce came in and said there will be cross realm and the only way is to buy another copy. And now this blizzard poster says they are trying to integrate it, who the hell are we supposed to listen to now? lol


Frank Pierce was misunderstood. He was saying there will not be cross region at release so that to play with your friends from around the world, you would need another copy of the game keyed to their region. He neglected to say that once they add cross-region play you would no longer need to do that.

This is the blue-post that addresses it. It is from before they officially announced intentions to add cross-region support, so don't get confused by the wording in the post. It just basically explains that they had no plans to formally support it, so what Frank Pierce said was basically the "workaround' unofficially to achieve it.

+ Show Spoiler +
When you read the Frank Pearce interview you will notice that he didn't answer the cross-realm question the way you try to picture it. He was asked directly about a possibility of playing in different regions. We don't encourage it, it is not meant to be a "money grab" and it is only a possible workaround, as while we don't want you to do it, we also are not going to prevent it from happening. It's not like Frank Pearce said "yes, we give you this amazing opportunity and we have a special promotion for you: when you buy copies for all 3 regions, you will get a 2% discount". In our opinion it is not a good way of experiencing the game, but we are going to pass on your feedback.
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Qkombur
Profile Joined June 2010
United States23 Posts
June 25 2010 12:28 GMT
#37
This is just fantastic. Huzzah for beta feedback!
Wombo combo.
Merikh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States918 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-25 12:33:30
June 25 2010 12:32 GMT
#38
On June 25 2010 21:20 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2010 20:46 Merikh wrote:
I'm confused; Haven't they stated all these things before? (Chat channel, Realms)

Only thing that hasn't been confirmed is personal lan option (non tournament based; since you can't practice on LAN at home games might feel completely different latency wise)

they said in a recent interview youd have to buy diff versions of the game to play crossrealm, and they said we didnt need chat rooms.

however after we bitched a bunch they decided to add it in


They said that ages ago, then later they talked about how they are working on something after release. It's been rehashed so many times, I don't get how this is "new" news at all.

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ryanAnger
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States838 Posts
June 25 2010 12:42 GMT
#39
On June 25 2010 20:20 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2010 18:57 Kantutan wrote:
I hope everyone will stop whining so much now. We'll be getting some form of chat channels, clans, and cross-server play post release. LAN is yet to be seen, but I'd put my money on there being something worked out in the end.

What's with the hate against whining? I am pretty sure that if it were not for all that whining and complaining, Blizzard would never have made all those promises. And even if they already had plans for this (they stated they had none), they certainly raised in priority.


There is a huge difference between whining and constructive criticism, and this community, the hardcore players, whines way too much, and it really overshadows the small amount of constructive feedback we give Blizzard.

To me, at least, that doesn't seem like a good way to conduct ourselves.
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Channel56k
Profile Joined June 2010
United States413 Posts
June 25 2010 12:49 GMT
#40
Since when does Blizzard's saying they are "gonna fix it" mean in a timely fashion or at all.

Call me pessimistic, but my recent experience with Blizzards failure to even recognize it as important in the beginning to me simply spells out an inability to react properly. When this does happen, you won't like it because it'll break on you, not be complete, cost you money, or one of another host of issues.

You think they will make it easy.... ok, optimism, thats not a bad thing.
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SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
June 25 2010 13:54 GMT
#41
On June 25 2010 21:49 konicki wrote:
Since when does Blizzard's saying they are "gonna fix it" mean in a timely fashion or at all.

Call me pessimistic, but my recent experience with Blizzards failure to even recognize it as important in the beginning to me simply spells out an inability to react properly. When this does happen, you won't like it because it'll break on you, not be complete, cost you money, or one of another host of issues.

You think they will make it easy.... ok, optimism, thats not a bad thing.

I honestly don't understand the new found optimism with blizzard either. they're vaguely addressing the issues with even vaguer solutions that are "coming some time after release". Reality check guys, they said the same thing about online replays with WC3.

I'll believe it when I see it.
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Boertie
Profile Joined July 2009
Netherlands98 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-25 13:58:52
June 25 2010 13:55 GMT
#42
+ Show Spoiler +
[On June 25 2010 21:08 Boertie wrote:
It seems like blizzard is finally developing this advanced technology that allows for cross-region play!

Jeeh!


The concepts aren't advanced, but producing a network that actually has consistent playable latencies between continents seems to be. Hopefully they can do it right and set up infrastructure for relays. I don't want every third game to have someone from the other side of the world lagging like crazy.

I was being sarcastic... it is a dutch thing..
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Windblade
Profile Joined July 2009
United States161 Posts
June 25 2010 13:56 GMT
#43
It seems i must once again drop the hope crushing link

http://www.wowwiki.com/Soon
TwinHits
Profile Joined June 2010
United States48 Posts
June 25 2010 14:09 GMT
#44
I think this is great news, sure we don't know when, but that's better than their previous stance of never.

Lets say they never planned to implement cross server play, and developed their software accordingly. Then, they change their mind due to community feedback and go back to change the software to enable cross server play. That would take time, but it's a great sign because they are taking the community seriously.
Mr.Pyro
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Denmark959 Posts
June 25 2010 14:13 GMT
#45
On June 25 2010 18:48 zeox wrote:
Show nested quote +
We are looking into ways of letting you switch between servers, no matter whether you buy a European or American version of the game. As for the second question you won't be able to play in the same game using different servers, as we have never had global servers for our games. It is our goal for the future, but won't be there for release.

Source.

So, both cross-server play and chat channels are coming post-release. I guess Blizzard is listening to the community after all. Now all we need is better privacy options and bnet2.0 is starting to look pretty awesome


This isn't news.

They said this for a long-ass time, that chat wouldn't be in for release but that it would come in a patch after release.
The same goes for cross-server play.

They're not listening to the community, the community just seems to have alzheimers and forgot interviews from about a year ago where they said exactly the same thing.
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rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-25 14:13:57
June 25 2010 14:13 GMT
#46
I highly doubt there will be a charge for this. Blizzard has stated they won't charge fees for features that were in previous games. Of course things could change but it is unlikely.
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artanis2
Profile Joined April 2010
United States732 Posts
June 25 2010 14:33 GMT
#47
On June 25 2010 18:59 zeox wrote:
... i'm not saying "oh thx bliz for adding such features", i'm saying "thank god you came to your senses, Blizzard"


This!
pheus
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia161 Posts
June 25 2010 14:57 GMT
#48
On June 25 2010 21:49 konicki wrote:
Since when does Blizzard's saying they are "gonna fix it" mean in a timely fashion or at all.

Call me pessimistic, but my recent experience with Blizzards failure to even recognize it as important in the beginning to me simply spells out an inability to react properly. When this does happen, you won't like it because it'll break on you, not be complete, cost you money, or one of another host of issues.

You think they will make it easy.... ok, optimism, thats not a bad thing.


Dude, of course they knew it would be an issue. They ran the numbers and they worked out that the number of people that it mattered too (it IS the minority, don't kid yourself) was not a material amount in the overall scheme of things. That is why cross realm play and lan are at best a future possibility rather than a core feature.
ocho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States172 Posts
June 25 2010 17:19 GMT
#49
On June 25 2010 21:42 ryanAnger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2010 20:20 spinesheath wrote:
On June 25 2010 18:57 Kantutan wrote:
I hope everyone will stop whining so much now. We'll be getting some form of chat channels, clans, and cross-server play post release. LAN is yet to be seen, but I'd put my money on there being something worked out in the end.

What's with the hate against whining? I am pretty sure that if it were not for all that whining and complaining, Blizzard would never have made all those promises. And even if they already had plans for this (they stated they had none), they certainly raised in priority.


There is a huge difference between whining and constructive criticism, and this community, the hardcore players, whines way too much, and it really overshadows the small amount of constructive feedback we give Blizzard.

To me, at least, that doesn't seem like a good way to conduct ourselves.


Do you really think the small amount of constructive criticism was the deciding factor? Which do you think a for-profit business cares more about, ten thousand people "whining" and saying they won't buy the game because chat channels aren't included, or one person giving constructive criticism by saying "the game is currently missing something, if you add chat channels maybe that would help"?

Whining fixed this game.
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
June 25 2010 17:34 GMT
#50
On June 26 2010 02:19 ocho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2010 21:42 ryanAnger wrote:
On June 25 2010 20:20 spinesheath wrote:
On June 25 2010 18:57 Kantutan wrote:
I hope everyone will stop whining so much now. We'll be getting some form of chat channels, clans, and cross-server play post release. LAN is yet to be seen, but I'd put my money on there being something worked out in the end.

What's with the hate against whining? I am pretty sure that if it were not for all that whining and complaining, Blizzard would never have made all those promises. And even if they already had plans for this (they stated they had none), they certainly raised in priority.


There is a huge difference between whining and constructive criticism, and this community, the hardcore players, whines way too much, and it really overshadows the small amount of constructive feedback we give Blizzard.

To me, at least, that doesn't seem like a good way to conduct ourselves.


Do you really think the small amount of constructive criticism was the deciding factor? Which do you think a for-profit business cares more about, ten thousand people "whining" and saying they won't buy the game because chat channels aren't included, or one person giving constructive criticism by saying "the game is currently missing something, if you add chat channels maybe that would help"?

Whining fixed this game.


Don't confuse the issue. What got Blizzard's attention was a large group of people talking about an important issue. NOT the fact that over half of them were accusing Blizzard of a money grab or Activision of being the devil. If that large group of people collectively focused their voice on the issue and not on Blizzard/Activision, we would have gotten more communication and our "whining" would have been more effective.

People aren't saying to "shut up." They're saying that when you speak up, focus on the issue, not on Blizzard.
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Rorschach
Profile Joined May 2010
United States623 Posts
June 25 2010 17:45 GMT
#51
I don't think anyone should be holding their breath in regards to this... I am not going to let my guard down and for good reason... Take Warcraft3 online replays, essentially they can delay these features and then just never integrate them.
They just have to "say" these things to put out the fires and 3-6 months after release when we ALREADY purchased the game we just don't ever see these features from them. What are you going do about it then?
En Taro Adun, Executor!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
June 25 2010 17:53 GMT
#52
On June 25 2010 23:13 MaD.pYrO wrote:


This isn't news.

They said this for a long-ass time, that chat wouldn't be in for release but that it would come in a patch after release.
The same goes for cross-server play.

They're not listening to the community, the community just seems to have alzheimers and forgot interviews from about a year ago where they said exactly the same thing.


You are wrong in this regard. When people asked them about cross-region the response was one of "why would you want that" or evasive answers to the question instead of just saying "we will make it happen in the future". So the real news is them actually answering the question directly. That is why people are happy.

The same goes for chat rooms. They were extremely vague about what chat rooms they were going to add into the game. That is why people were raging so hard about it because blizzard did not articulate their ideas well when they answered the question. Now they have gone out and said that there will be private chat rooms thus the community is happy again.

People really need to stop acting as if they amazing anti-conformists who see through all the mist that is blizzard.


Spidermonkey
Profile Joined April 2010
United States251 Posts
June 25 2010 17:54 GMT
#53
On June 25 2010 18:53 skeldark wrote:
THATS SO FREAKING BAD TO HEAR.
comming one day.... perhaps..... and not sure if it will cost money.
dam this a bad news not good ones.

i think this are no nice to have options. like: "oh thx bliz for adding such features".
this are essential options. its like : you want to drive with your car in a other city.
Yeah we will do this in a upgrade but for moment pls stay in your city with it.

so this what they say is :
"done when its done" was the past.
game is ready in upgrade nr 20 is future...


Cross server play is only really wanted by a small portion of the community. Most people who buy this game wont care. The fact that they are considering doing it at all is good. I think Blizzard has made some great steps in conceding to our requests, but we aren't the primary market. Try to remember that.

As long as the community continue's to demand these features, maybe with a little more tact now that we know Blizzard intends to do it, we will still get them in a timely manner. At a certain point you have to stop complaining about Blizzard when they are trying to meet our demands or you just look like a whiney bitch.
~ Richard Trahan
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
June 25 2010 17:57 GMT
#54
Team Liquid strikes again. The Community (tm): bending Activision to its will since 2010!
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
kajeus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States679 Posts
June 25 2010 17:57 GMT
#55
On June 26 2010 02:34 Takkara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2010 02:19 ocho wrote:
On June 25 2010 21:42 ryanAnger wrote:
On June 25 2010 20:20 spinesheath wrote:
On June 25 2010 18:57 Kantutan wrote:
I hope everyone will stop whining so much now. We'll be getting some form of chat channels, clans, and cross-server play post release. LAN is yet to be seen, but I'd put my money on there being something worked out in the end.

What's with the hate against whining? I am pretty sure that if it were not for all that whining and complaining, Blizzard would never have made all those promises. And even if they already had plans for this (they stated they had none), they certainly raised in priority.


There is a huge difference between whining and constructive criticism, and this community, the hardcore players, whines way too much, and it really overshadows the small amount of constructive feedback we give Blizzard.

To me, at least, that doesn't seem like a good way to conduct ourselves.


Do you really think the small amount of constructive criticism was the deciding factor? Which do you think a for-profit business cares more about, ten thousand people "whining" and saying they won't buy the game because chat channels aren't included, or one person giving constructive criticism by saying "the game is currently missing something, if you add chat channels maybe that would help"?

Whining fixed this game.


Don't confuse the issue. What got Blizzard's attention was a large group of people talking about an important issue. NOT the fact that over half of them were accusing Blizzard of a money grab or Activision of being the devil. If that large group of people collectively focused their voice on the issue and not on Blizzard/Activision, we would have gotten more communication and our "whining" would have been more effective.

People aren't saying to "shut up." They're saying that when you speak up, focus on the issue, not on Blizzard.

EXACTLY.

You people seem so whiney all the time because you "rage" at the wrong things in the wrong ways.

Stick to the issue and drop all the weird-ass conspiracy-theory/paranoia stuff, and this community will be tonnnns better.
pro-MoMaN, pro-HuK, pro-Millenium
kajeus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States679 Posts
June 25 2010 17:59 GMT
#56
On June 26 2010 02:57 MangoTango wrote:
Team Liquid strikes again. The Community (tm): bending Activision to its will since 2010!

Or... Blizzard: Being... a Good, Nice... Company? Since 199x?

Sounds better to me.
pro-MoMaN, pro-HuK, pro-Millenium
Bob300
Profile Joined April 2010
United States505 Posts
June 25 2010 18:00 GMT
#57
On June 25 2010 19:07 Marou wrote:
i'm pretty sure we'll have to pay for that, i hope the price won't exceed 5 or 10$

I really hope they don't make us buy every little upgrade for the game, even the most basic ones
NYC Suburbs --- College Freshman --- Season 1 - Drone Whiskey
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
June 25 2010 18:01 GMT
#58
Calling it now.

$15.
starleague forever
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66356 Posts
June 25 2010 18:03 GMT
#59
On June 25 2010 18:55 Zhek wrote:
Shitstorm: Sucess!

POGGERS
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 25 2010 18:03 GMT
#60
awesome decision by Blizzard =)
Therick
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway324 Posts
June 25 2010 18:04 GMT
#61
Lol you heard of chatchannels and cross realm play now?

welcome to 2 weeks ago
Lift. Laugh. Love. <3
red_b
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1267 Posts
June 25 2010 18:04 GMT
#62
If your mom said this to you after you asked for a game console you'd know it was a lie...

but if it's blizzard then it's ok?

sorry, but Im not 9 anymore and this wont work on me.
Those small maps were like a boxing match in a phone booth.
andeh
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States904 Posts
June 25 2010 18:08 GMT
#63
Good news, but it wont really matter until they do it.

Remember w3 was "supposed" to get online replays
Dugrok
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada377 Posts
June 25 2010 18:09 GMT
#64
I don't want to be one of those people who are all ''omg, I knew they'd pull through all along" because I did have my doubts about this, but Blizzard is starting to make sense again. My epic gaming company is still epic

I'm just anxious to see what kind of solution they'll come up with for the custom games problems.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
June 25 2010 18:09 GMT
#65
On June 25 2010 18:53 skeldark wrote:
THATS SO FREAKING BAD TO HEAR.
comming one day.... perhaps..... and not sure if it will cost money.
dam this a bad news not good ones.



because no chance at all to do it is way better.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-25 18:20:40
June 25 2010 18:18 GMT
#66
On June 25 2010 18:53 skeldark wrote:
THATS SO FREAKING BAD TO HEAR.
comming one day.... perhaps..... and not sure if it will cost money.
dam this a bad news not good ones.

i think this are no nice to have options. like: "oh thx bliz for adding such features".
this are essential options. its like : you want to drive with your car in a other city.
Yeah we will do this in a upgrade but for moment pls stay in your city with it.

so this what they say is :
"done when its done" was the past.
game is ready in upgrade nr 20 is future...


So you'd prefer not hearing it?

lawl

On June 25 2010 20:25 razed.dead wrote:
Guess they had to give us something so people would stop bitching and saying "OMG I HAVE TO CANCEL THE PREORDER AND TELL ALL MY FRIENDS TO CANCEL THEIRS SO WE CAN PROVE A POINT!" in order to keep launch sales from slumping and all the stockholders happy.

Still though, saying that the features won't be available at release means they have from July 28 to ~infinity to implement these features which could take quite a while .. but it's still awesome



This is such a fucking dumb comment. If the like whole 1000 nerds on the internet who canceled their pre-order actually had the power to DIRECTLY influence stockholders, we wouldn't even be in this predicament. You realize how fucking ludicrous that is? Activision stocks went up when MW2 boycott hit over 2 million signatures, then went down when MW2 was peaking 21 million sales. Stocks don't work like that lawls.
Too Busy to Troll!
shalafi
Profile Joined July 2008
394 Posts
June 25 2010 18:18 GMT
#67
On June 26 2010 03:09 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2010 18:53 skeldark wrote:
THATS SO FREAKING BAD TO HEAR.
comming one day.... perhaps..... and not sure if it will cost money.
dam this a bad news not good ones.



because no chance at all to do it is way better.


It's the confirmation of not having it on release.

Bad news imho.
ForKvatch
Profile Joined April 2010
United States54 Posts
June 25 2010 18:23 GMT
#68
I don't understand why people think you'd have to pay for cross-region play. I don't think Blizzard is really that dumb.
They call me fork.
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-25 18:47:25
June 25 2010 18:38 GMT
#69
On June 26 2010 02:19 ocho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2010 21:42 ryanAnger wrote:
On June 25 2010 20:20 spinesheath wrote:
On June 25 2010 18:57 Kantutan wrote:
I hope everyone will stop whining so much now. We'll be getting some form of chat channels, clans, and cross-server play post release. LAN is yet to be seen, but I'd put my money on there being something worked out in the end.

What's with the hate against whining? I am pretty sure that if it were not for all that whining and complaining, Blizzard would never have made all those promises. And even if they already had plans for this (they stated they had none), they certainly raised in priority.


There is a huge difference between whining and constructive criticism, and this community, the hardcore players, whines way too much, and it really overshadows the small amount of constructive feedback we give Blizzard.

To me, at least, that doesn't seem like a good way to conduct ourselves.


Do you really think the small amount of constructive criticism was the deciding factor? Which do you think a for-profit business cares more about, ten thousand people "whining" and saying they won't buy the game because chat channels aren't included, or one person giving constructive criticism by saying "the game is currently missing something, if you add chat channels maybe that would help"?

Whining fixed this game.



Do you really think a company with a target audience in excess of over 20 million people if you include customers lost to piracy in the original Starcraft cared about the internet rages of less then 10,000 people? Less then 1% of their target audience? .05% of their target audience? Get fucking real. No, if Blizzard listened to its vocal minority of fans, its because they felt that their complaints were legitimate complaints that could be extrapolated to harm the mass audience if left unfixed, and the alternatives they called for were at least somewhat practical and best for the long term success of the game, for reasons they may have previously overlooked.


Stop simplifying and polarizing everything to shades of black and white. Blizzard is a company that makes money, but they way they've come to do this is by providing quality products with both niche and long term, as well as mass, appeal, as well as profitable business practices in development and management. Most of the communities goals are congruous with those goals.

Blizzard "listens" to their community when a community member brings up a concern that is widely shared, and blizzard determines that concern to be both valid, and applicable to the games long term and short term success. Then, they internally develop a solution based on the general direction and non-specifics of ideas players have suggested.

If Blizzard does not feel your complaint is legitimate, no mass pressure from a niche audience will appeal to them. This isn't strictly a business decision either. Blizzard is in the business of making good games, and making a game that has some degree of mass appeal is part of making good games. If I make a game and everyone says its shit but ONE GUY really likes it, should I feel incredibly content and happy as a game designer, persuading myself I made the best game ever with incredibly niche appeal? No, I haven't, and I'd be delusional to think that. Not only is it not profitable to implement things that go "against the grain", its also a decision I wouldn't want artistically and professionally as a designer.
Too Busy to Troll!
SiegeFlank
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States410 Posts
June 25 2010 18:40 GMT
#70
This is such great news to hear. I'm glad Blizzard finally decided to listen to its community.
Bird up
TaaiJoeng
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Hong Kong164 Posts
June 25 2010 18:45 GMT
#71
YES BLIZZARD!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
...but the parasites say NO!
mini-miya
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden78 Posts
June 25 2010 18:49 GMT
#72
awesome news!
Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
June 25 2010 19:03 GMT
#73
Sweet, more good news.

Actually, it makes sense to not allow LAN at the start, but to implement it later, so as many ppl will buy it as possible before LAN pirating is available. (not sure how it would work, but w/e)
junemermaid
Profile Joined September 2006
United States981 Posts
June 25 2010 19:16 GMT
#74
On June 25 2010 21:15 skeldark wrote:
if we have to pay for it i dont pay.
i dont pay for options that are essential.
when we start paying for cross... they think they can take money for everything.
so in some years they sell each unit alone. and if you dont have enough money you must play without tanks ^^



What the hell are you even talking about...? I'm trying to wrap my head around both your posts in this thread and I'm coming up with nothing.
the UMP says YER OUT
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-25 19:19:55
June 25 2010 19:19 GMT
#75
I have to say this is great to hear! This way it'll make things a lot easier to coordinate for around the globe tournaments and other stuff.


On June 26 2010 03:23 ForKvatch wrote:
I don't understand why people think you'd have to pay for cross-region play. I don't think Blizzard is really that dumb.

Never underestimate what a company that wants to make money will do to make that money.
God Bless
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6990 Posts
June 25 2010 19:33 GMT
#76
The chances of them introducing a paid cross realm play option is slim in my opinion.

In WoW it makes a lot of sense, you can't allow people to constantly switch realms in a role playing game, that would be a mess. Simultaneously if you were never able to change realms it would also be annoying. Paid character transfer seems perfect. In SC2 there's really no harm in a player being able to play with people from other continents, he won't be able to get a cool axe from the US server and bring it back to Europe.

Also Blizzard has stated latency as their main worry regarding cross realm play, it would seem rather shady for them to claim that a certain amount of money just makes it that much easier to transfer data around the world when they've done it in older games with a lot less money involved.

I won't start throwing insults and begin being pessimistic just yet, maybe Activision isn't corrupting Blizzard but rather Activision is going to get changed by Blizzard, towards a better future?
Let's hope so.
Sejong
Profile Joined March 2010
Korea (South)153 Posts
June 25 2010 19:57 GMT
#77
They did not say they would support cross realm play.

It says you will be able to (at a future date) change servers.

It sounds like you'll be able to move your battle.net account to the EU or Asia server, similar to changing a WoW character to another server. It may even cost a few dollars and it may take 24 hours. So it's not quite cross-realm play necessarily.
QueueQueue
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada1000 Posts
June 25 2010 20:00 GMT
#78
On June 25 2010 18:53 skeldark wrote:
THATS SO FREAKING BAD TO HEAR.
comming one day.... perhaps..... and not sure if it will cost money.
dam this a bad news not good ones.

i think this are no nice to have options. like: "oh thx bliz for adding such features".
this are essential options. its like : you want to drive with your car in a other city.
Yeah we will do this in a upgrade but for moment pls stay in your city with it.

so this what they say is :
"done when its done" was the past.
game is ready in upgrade nr 20 is future...



How is it bad news to know that one day a feature will be included that people otherwise thought wouldn't be?
FreshVegetables
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Finland513 Posts
June 25 2010 20:01 GMT
#79
Well.. For all we know it might take them ages to implement it. Good news nevertheless!
yummy tomatoes
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
June 25 2010 20:07 GMT
#80
Wow so many haters..."We are giving you what you want!",Blizzard
"FU",Haters
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-25 20:17:14
June 25 2010 20:17 GMT
#81
HURRAH

too bad for the first couple weeks/months of sc2 tournaments are going to be a pain in the ass
Pharow
Profile Joined May 2010
United States19 Posts
June 25 2010 20:20 GMT
#82
Great!! Now all I need is international friends and I'll start to care
[8]rain
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany34 Posts
June 25 2010 20:29 GMT
#83
so ill be able to play sc2 on asia servers too!
sounds good!! for opinion it was not really essential, but it is a nice feature.
shows blizzards good will again.
and i stay at my opinion:
blizzard will make the game run perfectly!!
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skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-26 11:08:08
June 25 2010 21:27 GMT
#84
On June 25 2010 20:05 qoiN wrote:
None knows if it will cost money or not, so stop this stupid shit. And anyway I prefer paying $5 for cross-server than buying a new copy for $60 (and later on $120 for both expansions)

wow! never thought such a tatic would work. so i should try it too!
You have to give me 120 $ if you want to breathe!
....You dont think so? OK OK ... its only 5$
pm me for bank details ^^


I don't understand why people think you'd have to pay for cross-region play. I don't think Blizzard is really that dumb.

your right.
many people think this and they NEVER said so.
so perhaps it just show what we expect from them after last 4 month..
we should stop it because perhaps they never thought over it before they read it at tl

@all who dont understand why i wrote : BAD NEWS.

They say again: "We dont put it in release"
thats the news all other is a promise...

and by the way: im not sitting on my comp and rage. i just write: oh dam bad news.
and people out there calling everyone a bitch and idot who dont like what blizz says...
i dont get it. if you dont care for cross or chat why are you reading and posting in the threads?
Save gaming: kill esport
Nitron
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore177 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-25 21:32:01
June 25 2010 21:31 GMT
#85
well as long as eventually they will bring cross realm i am more than happy. getting region locked is the worse issue i have with bnet so far
rockon1215
Profile Joined May 2009
United States612 Posts
June 25 2010 21:40 GMT
#86
Internet rage gets shit done

Thanks for putting up with our consistent wining Blizzard!!!!!
Flash v Jaedong The finals that is ALWAYS meant to be
Polar_Nada
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1548 Posts
June 25 2010 21:41 GMT
#87
yesssssss thanks for listening!!
[ReD]NaDa and fnaticMSI.SEn fighting~! ::POlar @ UC Irvine::
Santriell
Profile Joined June 2010
Belgium151 Posts
June 25 2010 21:48 GMT
#88
On June 25 2010 18:53 ComusLoM wrote:
Just wondering how soon after release this will happen.


Like... 5 years ?
By the clack smack cracking of my thumbs, something wicked this may comes.
RodrigoX
Profile Joined November 2009
United States645 Posts
June 25 2010 21:59 GMT
#89
All our bitchy freakouts were from PR fails anyway. Its rather sad really that we had we were that scared SC2 would be awful, when something wasnt right, right when we got it we freaked out because they were going to ruin our game.

We all stepped in some serious bullshit I think.
We were all raised on televion that made us believe we'd all be Millionairs, Movie gods, and Rockstars..... But we won't.... We are slowly learning that fact. And we are very, very pissed off.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5652 Posts
June 25 2010 22:01 GMT
#90
On June 26 2010 02:54 Spidermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2010 18:53 skeldark wrote:
THATS SO FREAKING BAD TO HEAR.
comming one day.... perhaps..... and not sure if it will cost money.
dam this a bad news not good ones.

i think this are no nice to have options. like: "oh thx bliz for adding such features".
this are essential options. its like : you want to drive with your car in a other city.
Yeah we will do this in a upgrade but for moment pls stay in your city with it.

so this what they say is :
"done when its done" was the past.
game is ready in upgrade nr 20 is future...


Multiplayer is only really wanted by a small portion of the community. Most people who buy this game wont care. The fact that they are considering doing it at all is good. I think Blizzard has made some great steps in conceding to our requests, but we aren't the primary market. Try to remember that.

As long as the community continue's to demand these features, maybe with a little more tact now that we know Blizzard intends to do it, we will still get them in a timely manner. At a certain point you have to stop complaining about Blizzard when they are trying to meet our demands or you just look like a whiney bitch.


Fixed.

Does that mean they shouldn't care to implement the MP portion of the game?
EvilMaishidon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States125 Posts
June 26 2010 01:51 GMT
#91
On June 25 2010 19:35 theRiverX wrote:
Hoho yay! =D Well I guess Day9 was right about 'Blizzard ain't stupid'.

Of course Day[9] was right! Day[9] is always right. Lol, in all seriousness, this is great news that i really didn't expect to hear. Definitely nice to know that blizzard listens.
zappa372
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Chile365 Posts
June 26 2010 01:53 GMT
#92
nicely done blizzard guys!
EE HAN TIMING!
SilentCrono
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1420 Posts
June 26 2010 01:53 GMT
#93
thank god
♞ Your soul will forever be lost in the void of a horse. ♞
FC.Strike
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States621 Posts
June 26 2010 01:55 GMT
#94
One again Blizzard reminding me why they're my favorite corporate gaming company.

Good stuff.
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DtE
Profile Joined May 2010
France36 Posts
June 28 2010 13:06 GMT
#95
Wait until you see it. This really should have been here in the first place. Along with chatrooms this is a #1 priority. I'll be waiting.
Bring back Bnet 1.0.
BobbyFischer
Profile Joined December 2010
1 Post
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 18:41:17
December 11 2010 18:36 GMT
#96
Hey, I am terribly sorry for the necro here, but are there any news at all concerning cross-realm play?

It does bother me that we're nearing christmas and there is still no update on a possible upcoming cross realm solution other than buying multiple $60 boxes, having multiple installs, etc. So far I've been using guest passes to play with my friends overseas but that is really a crappy solution.

That is one of the things turning me off of Sc2 at the moment: feeling like I'm coerced into buying another copy to play with a fair amount of friends I have overseas, or just find a way to get infinite guest pass codes. I understand buying multiple copies when you are a professional gamer planning to make money off as many tournaments as you can possibly attend, but I am no progamer and I would still very much like to be able to play with people overseas on the internet in 2010 (soon to be 2011). Is it really too much to ask? Is Blizzard still trying to get something done here or what? If anyone has an update on this, I'm all ears.

Edit: reason for this post is I was hoping for some kind of news coming along with 1.2 PTR, christmas time etc. and I can't seem to find any announcement or update on that subject

Edit #2: I can't even recommend Sc2 to my gamer friends overseas because the next thing after they buy it is "surprise one of us needs another copy or guest passes lolol"... kinda sad tbh
.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
December 11 2010 18:38 GMT
#97
I think it's sort of just dropped off the radar, which is a damn shame.

Maybe they'll surprise us with it later, but that's a pretty bad idea to hold back on it.
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
ThatsNoMoon
Profile Joined March 2010
Mexico344 Posts
December 11 2010 18:40 GMT
#98
If there qas any news of cross realm play youd certaonly hear it here.
Unfortunately they have released no statemwnts regarding xrealm play or lan recwntly so assume nothing will change for the.near future.
Excuse spelling and grammar plz im on phone.
Got neurosis from Artosis cause you bunker rushed my heart GG baby, lets go crazy cause the game's about to start
MarCoon
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Germany493 Posts
December 11 2010 18:40 GMT
#99
Cross Realm play is something we really need in the future, since StarCraft always was a pretty international community and not just a regional one :o
~follow me on twitter.com/GGmarCoon
Retgery
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1229 Posts
December 11 2010 18:40 GMT
#100
Next thing is to get rid of the popularity system, then we're just about golden
Fall down 7 times, stand up 8.
IrT4nkz
Profile Joined May 2010
229 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 18:44:30
December 11 2010 18:44 GMT
#101
Hopefully the cross-realm server options don't require us to fork out cash to do it. It would piss a lot of people off.

Provided they are adding this feature.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15353 Posts
December 11 2010 18:45 GMT
#102
Nope no news.
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