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InFdude
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Bulgaria619 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 20:55:36
May 02 2010 20:54 GMT
#81
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Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
May 02 2010 20:58 GMT
#82
On May 03 2010 05:54 InFdude wrote:Last MSL finals most people said he had no chance .Yeah that's what happens to your golden Flash when Jaedong takes things seriously .

To be fair, that MSL was pretty close. The third game was probably Jaedong's, even if there was no power outage. Considering how epic Jaedong is at Bo5's and that he only had to win 1 more game, he still probably had it. But he didn't exactly dominate Flash, like Flash did to Movie.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
May 02 2010 21:00 GMT
#83
On May 03 2010 05:54 InFdude wrote:
Some one said it has aways been Jaedong/Bisu/Flash on top .I'll have to disagree . Flash was nowhere to be seen before this period . It has aways been Jaedong and someone mb Jaedong vs Bisu for N1 or Jaedong vs Stork or Jaedong vs Flash but not all of Flash/Stork/Bisu for the whole time line . Someone mentioned Savior . Oh how I hate that guy . The reason he is Bonjwa was that "feeling " and that "no one would argue that he is Bonjwa " and not statistics (ofc becaunse Jaedong has better ones ) . Well ok I have this "feeling" for Jaedong and I will argue about Savior .

Flash? Yeah sure he is good now but lets see how consistant he is going to be . Jaedong has been winning stuff for as long as I can remember and now this 1 Flash OSL title is overshadowing him ? The last few games I saw Flash had a hard time beating Lomo and he lost to MVP.


Jaedong has been the best zerg (and being dominant as zerg is alot harder than being dominant with terran IMO ) since for ever and he gets way too little respect .Last MSL finals most people said he had no chance .Yeah that's what happens to your golden Flash when Jaedong takes things seriously .


PS: hope I don't get banned for saying Bonjwa .



So you are saying in the OSL games, where JD got raped 2:0, he didn't take things seriously? Pleaaaase, Jaedong fans have already bad reputation, no need to make things even worse...
Art.FeeL
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1163 Posts
May 02 2010 21:07 GMT
#84
On May 03 2010 06:00 adelarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2010 05:54 InFdude wrote:
Some one said it has aways been Jaedong/Bisu/Flash on top .I'll have to disagree . Flash was nowhere to be seen before this period . It has aways been Jaedong and someone mb Jaedong vs Bisu for N1 or Jaedong vs Stork or Jaedong vs Flash but not all of Flash/Stork/Bisu for the whole time line . Someone mentioned Savior . Oh how I hate that guy . The reason he is Bonjwa was that "feeling " and that "no one would argue that he is Bonjwa " and not statistics (ofc becaunse Jaedong has better ones ) . Well ok I have this "feeling" for Jaedong and I will argue about Savior .

Flash? Yeah sure he is good now but lets see how consistant he is going to be . Jaedong has been winning stuff for as long as I can remember and now this 1 Flash OSL title is overshadowing him ? The last few games I saw Flash had a hard time beating Lomo and he lost to MVP.


Jaedong has been the best zerg (and being dominant as zerg is alot harder than being dominant with terran IMO ) since for ever and he gets way too little respect .Last MSL finals most people said he had no chance .Yeah that's what happens to your golden Flash when Jaedong takes things seriously .


PS: hope I don't get banned for saying Bonjwa .



So you are saying in the OSL games, where JD got raped 2:0, he didn't take things seriously? Pleaaaase, Jaedong fans have already bad reputation, no need to make things even worse...


Well Jaedong said in an interview that he was caught offguard and that he is sad coz he wasn't able to show what he had prepared. But in generale i agree with inFdude
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Pakje
Profile Joined March 2009
Belgium288 Posts
May 02 2010 21:09 GMT
#85
On May 03 2010 06:00 adelarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2010 05:54 InFdude wrote:
Some one said it has aways been Jaedong/Bisu/Flash on top .I'll have to disagree . Flash was nowhere to be seen before this period . It has aways been Jaedong and someone mb Jaedong vs Bisu for N1 or Jaedong vs Stork or Jaedong vs Flash but not all of Flash/Stork/Bisu for the whole time line . Someone mentioned Savior . Oh how I hate that guy . The reason he is Bonjwa was that "feeling " and that "no one would argue that he is Bonjwa " and not statistics (ofc becaunse Jaedong has better ones ) . Well ok I have this "feeling" for Jaedong and I will argue about Savior .

Flash? Yeah sure he is good now but lets see how consistant he is going to be . Jaedong has been winning stuff for as long as I can remember and now this 1 Flash OSL title is overshadowing him ? The last few games I saw Flash had a hard time beating Lomo and he lost to MVP.


Jaedong has been the best zerg (and being dominant as zerg is alot harder than being dominant with terran IMO ) since for ever and he gets way too little respect .Last MSL finals most people said he had no chance .Yeah that's what happens to your golden Flash when Jaedong takes things seriously .


PS: hope I don't get banned for saying Bonjwa .



So you are saying in the OSL games, where JD got raped 2:0, he didn't take things seriously? Pleaaaase, Jaedong fans have already bad reputation, no need to make things even worse...


wasn 't he sick at the time?
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 21:14:15
May 02 2010 21:12 GMT
#86
On May 03 2010 05:54 InFdude wrote:
Some one said it has aways been Jaedong/Bisu/Flash on top .I'll have to disagree . Flash was nowhere to be seen before this period . It has aways been Jaedong and someone mb Jaedong vs Bisu for N1 or Jaedong vs Stork or Jaedong vs Flash but not all of Flash/Stork/Bisu for the whole time line . Someone mentioned Savior . Oh how I hate that guy . The reason he is Bonjwa was that "feeling " and that "no one would argue that he is Bonjwa " and not statistics (ofc becaunse Jaedong has better ones ) . Well ok I have this "feeling" for Jaedong and I will argue about Savior .

Flash? Yeah sure he is good now but lets see how consistant he is going to be . Jaedong has been winning stuff for as long as I can remember and now this 1 Flash OSL title is overshadowing him ? The last few games I saw Flash had a hard time beating Lomo and he lost to MVP.


Jaedong has been the best zerg (and being dominant as zerg is alot harder than being dominant with terran IMO ) since for ever and he gets way too little respect .Last MSL finals most people said he had no chance .Yeah that's what happens to your golden Flash when Jaedong takes things seriously .


PS: hope I don't get banned for saying Bonjwa .



I was going to respond to your post with a lengthy one of my own but you have no idea what you're talking about.

Flash was nowhere to be seen before this period? Alright buddy, you just keep on thinking that. You obviously haven't remembered for very long if Jaedong is the only person you remember dominating at all. The thing is Flash's current domination has already lasted longer than Jaedong's...and it's far more complete.

I like Jaedong, I do...but Flash is just plain better right now and has been for awhile. He was mortal between his first OSL and his second OSL and still maintained above a 60% winrate...and people called that a slump. Flash has been the best terran for a very long time now with the only person coming close to that being Fantasy during his flash pan phase.
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NiGoL
Profile Joined September 2008
1868 Posts
May 02 2010 21:15 GMT
#87
its not over for him, trust me on that
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SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
May 02 2010 21:22 GMT
#88
Jaedong still got to win more OSL's His reign aint over =)
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RodrigoX
Profile Joined November 2009
United States645 Posts
May 02 2010 21:49 GMT
#89
Jaedong is still very good, its just flash man..... 1000 points ahead of him
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CakeOrI)eath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States327 Posts
May 02 2010 22:22 GMT
#90
Its hard to be a tyrant when there is a different guy with a 90% win rate (proleague) walking around... He is still the best zerg out there right now but the same could have been said about yellow during Boxer's rule.
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dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
May 02 2010 22:23 GMT
#91
Maybe slumping very slightly, but like everyone else says he is in a league of his own @ rank 2 right now.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
May 02 2010 22:23 GMT
#92
still the strongest Z in the world .
just a little dampened amongst the scandal and sc2 beta
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Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
May 02 2010 22:23 GMT
#93
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KP_CollectoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States744 Posts
May 02 2010 22:34 GMT
#94
On May 03 2010 01:33 InFdude wrote:
I can't remember a game where Jaedong lost bacause of his poor late game performance.


Just to play devil's advocate: Jaedong vs. Flash @ Match Point (Proleague game) - forgetting dark swarm is quite an obscene error and would possibly qualify as poor (or at least disappointing) late game performance. In general though, you're probably right.

On May 03 2010 05:54 InFdude wrote:
Jaedong has been the best zerg (and being dominant as zerg is alot harder than being dominant with terran IMO ) since for ever and he gets way too little respect .


Yeahhhhhhh the guy with one of the largest fan bases, majority votes in TL best of all time threads, majority of progamers pronouncing him the best only months ago, whom was considered bonjwa by Koreans only months ago, had Koreans rabidly chanting his name in between games of Bacchus semi-finals and whom was named player of the year gets way too litte respect.
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domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
May 02 2010 22:36 GMT
#95
Let's resume discussion after MSL finals (sorry Midas).
aznanimedude
Profile Joined April 2009
United States199 Posts
May 02 2010 22:38 GMT
#96
it goes without saying you must be doing relatively well when

- being 600 points above 3rd place
- going 62.5% in what is historically your worst month
- being expected to beat everyone who's name is not lee young ho
- beating same person in a MSL to deny him a dual league title, and being considered one of the few that can challenge said person


is considered you being in a slump and having your reign over
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
May 02 2010 22:41 GMT
#97
On May 03 2010 07:38 aznanimedude wrote:
it goes without saying you must be doing relatively well when

- being 600 points above 3rd place
- going 62.5% in what is historically your worst month
- being expected to beat everyone who's name is not lee young ho
- beating same person in a MSL to deny him a dual league title, and being considered one of the few that can challenge said person


is considered you being in a slump and having your reign over


Of the trifecta only Bisu has actual slumps.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
May 02 2010 22:44 GMT
#98
Jaedong reign is obviously over as the best player in the world. I don't know how the hell you would argue Jaedong is the best right now.
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
Lazerbeems
Profile Joined May 2010
151 Posts
May 02 2010 22:46 GMT
#99
On May 03 2010 07:41 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2010 07:38 aznanimedude wrote:
it goes without saying you must be doing relatively well when

- being 600 points above 3rd place
- going 62.5% in what is historically your worst month
- being expected to beat everyone who's name is not lee young ho
- beating same person in a MSL to deny him a dual league title, and being considered one of the few that can challenge said person


is considered you being in a slump and having your reign over


Of the trifecta only Bisu has actual slumps.


This. Flash never got too far into individual leagues but he was still good enough to get into the group selection ceremony basically every time. The protoss duo, Stork and Bisu, are the only ones to go through slumps so heavy that you can definitely call them slumps.

Flash wasn't performing his best last year but he still tied for most games won in proleague. If you're slumping and can achieve that, you must be pretty good right?
LLXC
Profile Joined September 2009
United States125 Posts
May 02 2010 23:11 GMT
#100
Jaedong is still dominate; Flash has just become ridiculous.
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