On May 02 2010 22:52 Manit0u wrote:
No.
Nothing more to say here.
No.
Nothing more to say here.
On May 02 2010 22:18 Juicyfruit wrote:
I think Jaedong is still Jaedong.
I think Jaedong is still Jaedong.
Agreed.
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
On May 02 2010 22:52 Manit0u wrote: No. Nothing more to say here. On May 02 2010 22:18 Juicyfruit wrote: I think Jaedong is still Jaedong. Agreed. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
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d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
So I wouldn't say Jaedong is second best. Flash goes through more dominant stretches but Jaedong knows how to win when it counts. | ||
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Purind
Canada3562 Posts
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Motiva
United States1774 Posts
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blahman3344
United States2015 Posts
He's still pretty good...looking at his record, his ZvZ is 75% (last 10: 8:2) and and his ZvP is reaching close to 70% (last 10: 9:1) if anything, maybe its his ZvT thats a little weak, but that's still over 60% (last 10: 5:5) | ||
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Cpadolf
Sweden1199 Posts
On May 02 2010 23:11 d_so wrote: it's amazing how consistently jaedong wins even when he's not "dominant". he won his last osl during a "slump" (loses to calm in msl, loss to fantasy in proleague championship), won his last msl while in a similar sort of slump. Not to mention one of the greatest zvp streaks ever which got very little recognition due to flash. So I wouldn't say Jaedong is second best. Flash goes through more dominant stretches but Jaedong knows how to win when it counts. That's not true though. Starting from November and ending at his MSL victory about 3 months later, he went 29-7 (81%). For comparison, Flash went 37-11 (77%) during the same time period (with a tougher schedule, though, and probably a higher general level of skill from his opponents due to going all the way in both SL's). I wouldn't call that a slump. About Jaedong reign being over. Well, unless Flash burns out maybe he won't ever be #1 again (he might be able to take the MSL, but I don't see him keeping up with Flash's consistency), but as long as he get's ZvT under control for good he'll still be #2 by a mile. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On May 03 2010 00:49 Cpadolf wrote: Show nested quote + On May 02 2010 23:11 d_so wrote: it's amazing how consistently jaedong wins even when he's not "dominant". he won his last osl during a "slump" (loses to calm in msl, loss to fantasy in proleague championship), won his last msl while in a similar sort of slump. Not to mention one of the greatest zvp streaks ever which got very little recognition due to flash. So I wouldn't say Jaedong is second best. Flash goes through more dominant stretches but Jaedong knows how to win when it counts. That's not true though. Starting from November and ending at his MSL victory about 3 months later, he went 29-7 (81%). For comparison, Flash went 37-11 (77%) during the same time period (with a tougher schedule, though, and probably a higher general level of skill from his opponents due to going all the way in both SL's). I wouldn't call that a slump. About Jaedong reign being over. Well, unless Flash burns out maybe he won't ever be #1 again (he might be able to take the MSL, but I don't see him keeping up with Flash's consistency), but as long as he get's ZvT under control for good he'll still be #2 by a mile. Dont. Question. That. Damned. ZvT. He just beat Midas in convincing fashion, 3 of his loses was caused by Baby, without Baby who also had his part of Beating Stork out of the OSL. Remember who he lost to before claiming slump, Jaedong haven't even slumped hard through April. I could claim KTRolster Slump after + Show Spoiler + they lost to SKT1 | ||
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skronch
United States2717 Posts
On May 02 2010 22:52 SplashbackFerret wrote: Nah, it's just that this time his traditional post-finals "slump" coincided with his traditional april jinx, so everything seemed twice as bad as normal. lol...i remember seeing a thread about his april jinx but couldn't seem to find it | ||
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Cpadolf
Sweden1199 Posts
On May 03 2010 00:53 Iplaythings wrote: Show nested quote + On May 03 2010 00:49 Cpadolf wrote: On May 02 2010 23:11 d_so wrote: it's amazing how consistently jaedong wins even when he's not "dominant". he won his last osl during a "slump" (loses to calm in msl, loss to fantasy in proleague championship), won his last msl while in a similar sort of slump. Not to mention one of the greatest zvp streaks ever which got very little recognition due to flash. So I wouldn't say Jaedong is second best. Flash goes through more dominant stretches but Jaedong knows how to win when it counts. That's not true though. Starting from November and ending at his MSL victory about 3 months later, he went 29-7 (81%). For comparison, Flash went 37-11 (77%) during the same time period (with a tougher schedule, though, and probably a higher general level of skill from his opponents due to going all the way in both SL's). I wouldn't call that a slump. About Jaedong reign being over. Well, unless Flash burns out maybe he won't ever be #1 again (he might be able to take the MSL, but I don't see him keeping up with Flash's consistency), but as long as he get's ZvT under control for good he'll still be #2 by a mile. Dont. Question. That. Damned. ZvT. He just beat Midas in convincing fashion, 3 of his loses was caused by Baby, without Baby who also had his part of Beating Stork out of the OSL. Remember who he lost to before claiming slump, Jaedong haven't even slumped hard through April. I could claim KTRolster Slump after + Show Spoiler + they lost to SKT1 His ZvT is not bad, it's inconsistent. It can be amazing, like against Leta and Midas last month, but some of the other games he's had lately have just been very unconvincing in comparison. | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
If Jaedong can fix his ZvT, win a game against Flash, he will be back on the top. Then again, Jaedong never had a "reign". He never achieved total domination. There was Bisu back then and Flash nowadays. | ||
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Kyuki
Sweden1867 Posts
No. | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
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Meepman
Canada610 Posts
As someone said earlier, "I think JD is still JD." | ||
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InFdude
Bulgaria619 Posts
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Mojawi)SoJu
Korea (South)259 Posts
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peidongyang
Canada2084 Posts
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Ideas
United States8142 Posts
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nonduc
Russian Federation405 Posts
On May 03 2010 01:37 Ideas wrote: I think he's got just as much skill as flash but the maps are kinda bad for zerg and stylistically it's much easier for flash to win PL games without as much practice as it is for JD to. You stole my post! :D | ||
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