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On May 03 2010 11:31 Megalisk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2010 11:15 Kyo Yuy wrote: Jaedong is bonjwa, TvZ is T favored and Jaedong still 3-1ed Flash in the NATE MSL and there was nothing Flash could do even on T favored maps.
Jaedong doesn't actually lose matches, he pretends to be bad in Proleague so that he can completely destroy everyone in BO5s.
Don't worry guys, Jaedong will win the Korean Air OSL and the Hana Daetoo MSL, and then he will win the Platinum Mouse just because he is that good and he is the best person to ever play Starcraft and anyone who disagrees doesn't realize that Zerg is the weakest race in SC1. Yes the sponsor will demand that EffOrt be replaced by jaedong...considering he was eliminated some time ago..
I'm sure if you held a vote here and in Korea the vast majority would be ok with this considering Efforts recent play.
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Jaedong, along with Flash and Bisu (and sometimes Stork) are really the only players whos games against eachother I will watch with popcorn and wearing 3d glasses.
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People are saying JD isn't doing that well, eventhough he's 7-3 in his last 10 games. Keep in mind though, JD has NOT faced any Protoss opponent for 26 games, yes 26, and i think JD's best MU is ZvP BY FAR at this very moment.
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On May 03 2010 13:14 eNoq wrote: People are saying JD isn't doing that well, eventhough he's 7-3 in his last 10 games. Keep in mind though, JD has NOT faced any Protoss opponent for 26 games, yes 26, and i think JD's best MU is ZvP BY FAR at this very moment. imho he was simply benefiting from very favorable zvp metagame and maps. just like the recent surge in protoss appearance in the later stages of starleagues imho is mainly because the terrans eliminate the zergs, and not because the tosses have stepped up their play.
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On May 03 2010 13:14 eNoq wrote: People are saying JD isn't doing that well, eventhough he's 7-3 in his last 10 games. Keep in mind though, JD has NOT faced any Protoss opponent for 26 games, yes 26, and i think JD's best MU is ZvP BY FAR at this very moment.
And?
Nobody has ever been judged on their ability by what could have been. That just isn't the way it works.
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On May 03 2010 11:15 Kyo Yuy wrote: Jaedong is bonjwa, TvZ is T favored and Jaedong still 3-1ed Flash in the NATE MSL and there was nothing Flash could do even on T favored maps.
Jaedong doesn't actually lose matches, he pretends to be bad in Proleague so that he can completely destroy everyone in BO5s.
Don't worry guys, Jaedong will win the Korean Air OSL and the Hana Daetoo MSL, and then he will win the Platinum Mouse just because he is that good and he is the best person to ever play Starcraft and anyone who disagrees doesn't realize that Zerg is the weakest race in SC1. Nice troll bro
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I thought it was a little apparent, but apparently it swindled two people on the last page.
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On May 03 2010 13:10 IaniAniaN wrote: Jaedong, along with Flash and Bisu (and sometimes Stork) are really the only players whos games against eachother I will watch with popcorn and wearing 3d glasses.
This made absolutely no sense at all -_-
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On May 03 2010 08:35 Lightwip wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2010 07:34 KP_CollectoR wrote:On May 03 2010 01:33 InFdude wrote: I can't remember a game where Jaedong lost bacause of his poor late game performance. Just to play devil's advocate: Jaedong vs. Flash @ Match Point (Proleague game) - forgetting dark swarm is quite an obscene error and would possibly qualify as poor (or at least disappointing) late game performance. In general though, you're probably right. You don't get a match fixed for a battle that could go either way. If Jaedong lost to say, Idra, then you could talk about possible match fixing. Besides, that does happen. Stork once forgot goon range(although he won the game).
I never said anything about match fixing, nor did I imply anything about match fixing.
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On May 02 2010 22:17 Dionesus wrote: Do you guys think that his reign is over? I know he is still 2nd place on the rankings but he is not as dominate as he once were. Do you guys think it was because of his sickness that he is slumping, new map pool could be imba towards zerg, or metagame has shifted and Jaedong can not adapt? What are your thoughts? I should probably spoiler this.. + Show Spoiler +have you seen his recent game vs Midas? he aboslutely won that with beautiful skill and massive amounts of multitasking, scouted his tech switches and everything, adapted to whatever Midas tried to throw at him, and he basically overwhelmed Midas hard. he hasn't been playing like he used to, but that game just devastated me. the game gave me the chills, i wanted him to win so bad and he did with his amazing playstyle
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as much as i love JD, he is playing poorly. and if you look into, its easy to see that he has thrown a few games. he is #4 at the moment, but soon his slump will end and he will become good again.
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On May 03 2010 15:36 KP_CollectoR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2010 08:35 Lightwip wrote:On May 03 2010 07:34 KP_CollectoR wrote:On May 03 2010 01:33 InFdude wrote: I can't remember a game where Jaedong lost bacause of his poor late game performance. Just to play devil's advocate: Jaedong vs. Flash @ Match Point (Proleague game) - forgetting dark swarm is quite an obscene error and would possibly qualify as poor (or at least disappointing) late game performance. In general though, you're probably right. You don't get a match fixed for a battle that could go either way. If Jaedong lost to say, Idra, then you could talk about possible match fixing. Besides, that does happen. Stork once forgot goon range(although he won the game). I never said anything about match fixing, nor did I imply anything about match fixing. Whoops, my mistake. Thought the earlier poster did.
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there's nothing wrong with Jaedong
Bisu on the otherhand...
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JD is still JaeDong. In a final against Flash, JD is the favorite IMO.
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On May 03 2010 15:48 Sephy69 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2010 22:17 Dionesus wrote: Do you guys think that his reign is over? I know he is still 2nd place on the rankings but he is not as dominate as he once were. Do you guys think it was because of his sickness that he is slumping, new map pool could be imba towards zerg, or metagame has shifted and Jaedong can not adapt? What are your thoughts? I should probably spoiler this.. + Show Spoiler +have you seen his recent game vs Midas? he aboslutely won that with beautiful skill and massive amounts of multitasking, scouted his tech switches and everything, adapted to whatever Midas tried to throw at him, and he basically overwhelmed Midas hard. he hasn't been playing like he used to, but that game just devastated me. the game gave me the chills, i wanted him to win so bad and he did with his amazing playstyle
yeah that game was so sick
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On May 03 2010 16:11 Raol wrote: JD is still JaeDong. In a final against Flash, JD is the favorite IMO.
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I don't think this is even worth a response, but I'll go ahead and do it anyway. Are you blind and deaf? Have you been in Siberia since the last MSL Finals?
There is absolutely no way that Jaedong is the favorite over Flash in a Bo5, be it the finals or any other Bo5. In their last Bo3 Jaedong got crushed 2-0 and whatever you may think about the last MSL Finals, they are certainly not representative. After that they had a single game which Flash won. From that point on Flash was and is still performing consistently and distinctly better than Jaedong, crushing everything and everyone in his wake.
If anything Jaedong is suspected to give Flash some trouble in a BoX, the only reason being his past Bo5 performances and his reputation. But the favorite? Seriously man.... even fanboyism should have borders.
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There is some weird statement I read on this thread. Anybody checked the rate of his z v z and z v p? How can you talk about reign is over? He's having difficulties in z v t indeed. But all other mu is just a slaughter. you guys are sick!!!
vZ: 114-38 (75.00%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W W W L W W W L W W | View Games vP: 92-43 (68.15%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W W W W W W W W L W | View Games
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