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machinehead..
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
412 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-05 19:38:47
January 05 2010 19:38 GMT
#101
On January 06 2010 04:32 MorroW[MB] wrote:
i actually do teach for money, and some clanmates/practice partners for free. anyhow i was just trying to help u by giving u some tips why u rnt convincing anyone. i never said u wasnt too bad to teach cause i have no idea how good u r (this is why its good to upload reps)


I appreciate the help then. Perhaps I will make a rep pack of future games in a week or so. I'm hesitant to get caught up in teaching a lot of SC though, as I do want to focus some on poker. I've always thought that if I can see someone's games, then I can understand the thought process and there would be no need to talk to them. But perhaps not everyone has that mindset.
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
January 05 2010 19:38 GMT
#102
Why don't you use this time to sign up for PokerStrategy.com and get good at poker so you don't need to fund your bank roll with a few dollars teaching sc players? (sick plug amirite?)
machinehead..
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
412 Posts
January 05 2010 19:39 GMT
#103
You guys should allow USA players, btw...
LeoTheLion
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
China958 Posts
January 05 2010 19:39 GMT
#104
he's from usa
Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy. -Chairman Mao
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
January 05 2010 19:40 GMT
#105
Hahaha Kennigit that was epic.

And ps Machinehead when you keep talkinga bout the only reason you're doing is so you can focus on poker that makes you sound less reliable. It makes it sound like poker is more important to you than SC which would make people hesitate to take SC lessons from you.
n3m0
Profile Joined January 2007
Portugal247 Posts
January 05 2010 19:46 GMT
#106
On January 06 2010 04:29 machinehead.. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2010 04:25 n3m0 wrote:
Give the guy a break.. He's using this thread as a last resort to get some money to play poker for christ sake xD

You don't have to keep saying Top 8, Top 16 USA thou... That means doesn't mean ur even decent..

USA, atm has 1 excellent player, like ~2 who are good and another ~2 who are decent. The rest of them are kinda bad.. srsly...


I think you are selling USA short there. You would need to at least be a B+ player to get top 16 USA. Top 16 simply helps put it in perspective for some that are from USA that want to get better. A lot of people can say ambiguous things like "I'm 'good,'" or that I got a rank on iccup through cheesing. Qualifying for WCG's is simply a better means to quantify your skill -- although maybe not to players unaware of the USA scene.


Well now it seems ur contradicting yourself.. First you say that it's easy to achieve A/A- with cheesy bo's or abusing on iccup, then you answer my post based on iccup ranking...

I'm talking very seriously here, I do think most USA players are overrated.. I've seen a couple of USA players on TSL 1st page with A- and I don't really know how they got there lol..

I don't want to start a flamewar nor mention any names.. but have you ever watched Lzgamer's stream? :D I'm just saying.. he got A- and he hm... well you know ;;
Former WGT Clan League Admin - Former Portugal A team manager - Former member of MgZ) / iG. / LRM) - Starcraft Broodwar
hempLine
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada63 Posts
January 05 2010 19:49 GMT
#107
On January 06 2010 04:46 n3m0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2010 04:29 machinehead.. wrote:
On January 06 2010 04:25 n3m0 wrote:
Give the guy a break.. He's using this thread as a last resort to get some money to play poker for christ sake xD

You don't have to keep saying Top 8, Top 16 USA thou... That means doesn't mean ur even decent..

USA, atm has 1 excellent player, like ~2 who are good and another ~2 who are decent. The rest of them are kinda bad.. srsly...


I think you are selling USA short there. You would need to at least be a B+ player to get top 16 USA. Top 16 simply helps put it in perspective for some that are from USA that want to get better. A lot of people can say ambiguous things like "I'm 'good,'" or that I got a rank on iccup through cheesing. Qualifying for WCG's is simply a better means to quantify your skill -- although maybe not to players unaware of the USA scene.


Well now it seems ur contradicting yourself.. First you say that it's easy to achieve A/A- with cheesy bo's or abusing on iccup, then you answer my post based on iccup ranking...

I'm talking very seriously here, I do think most USA players are overrated.. I've seen a couple of USA players on TSL 1st page with A- and I don't really know how they got there lol..

I don't want to start a flamewar nor mention any names.. but have you ever watched Lzgamer's stream? :D I'm just saying.. he got A- and he hm... well you know ;;


Lz bashing =
MBC T_T Ret for TSL2!!
Leath
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Canada1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-05 19:58:35
January 05 2010 19:55 GMT
#108
I think MachineHead should reopen an organized thread in a blog with more specific info. A bit like what Chill did, involving his resume, price (even if it is negotiable, give an estimate, people feel reluctant taking shots), session length, available times, etc...

On another subject, what would be a top 16 USA list? Can someone help create one?
1.iDra & Artosis (cuz he is gosu)
2.NoNy
3.Love (if he still plays)
4.inControl
5.Nyoken
6.Yoshi
7.G5
8.Louder
9.KawiiRice
10.LzGamer
11.Chosen
12.Mercury
13.Scan
14.iNka
15.Evade
16.Tasteless? lol
I dont know nearly enough players to even make a list lol let alone judge how good they are in comparison with one another =)
http://www.kongregate.com/?referrer=Sagess
Knickknack
Profile Joined February 2004
United States1187 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-05 19:59:09
January 05 2010 19:57 GMT
#109
I admire the goal of helping others and if people don't want to pay a small fee for a service no big deal. Still, some things should be said.

First truth -- I knew playa a bit when he was starting out, but I cant speak much to how well hes gotten. From recent reps I can backup that he says he plays somewhat unorthodox, and that he seems good enough to help out many players. Anyone that is B+ and can speak about starcraft well is probaby able to helps lots of people.
Second truth -- Like LeoTheLion said, get your shit together. The op is terribly organized. You edited the op, and it is better now, but it is nowhere near the level of incontrol, who is handling it much more professionally.
Third truth -- the vast amount of players will only care if you are a known name, which incontrol is due to being around forever and having high post count. That and only being ~16th in skill is hardly going to impress.

Decent idea. Badly executed. Not going to get many people anyway.
| www.ArtofProtoss.vze.com |
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
January 05 2010 19:59 GMT
#110
u forgot about eX-v1o)Semih, A- toss (i think a- max) and lastshadow (A terran!!!!)
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Wurzelbrumpft
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany471 Posts
January 05 2010 19:59 GMT
#111
On January 06 2010 04:55 Leath wrote:
I think MachineHead should reopen an organized thread in a blog with more specific info. A bit like what Chill did, involving his resume, price (even if it is negotiable, give an estimate, people feel reluctant taking shots), session length, available times, etc...

On another subject, what would be a top 16 USA list? Can someone help create one?
1.iDra & Artosis (cuz he is gosu)
2.NoNy
3.Love (if he still plays)
4.inControl
5.Nyoken
6.Yoshi
7.G5
8.Louder
9.KawiiRice
10.LzGamer
11.Chosen
12.Mercury
13.Scan
14.iNka
15.Evade
16.Tasteless? lol
I dont know nearly enough players to even make a list lol


i doubt that listing..
beam me up scotty, this planet suxX
ProoM
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Lithuania1741 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-05 20:11:13
January 05 2010 20:03 GMT
#112
On (Z)January 06 2010 04:55 Leath wrote:
I think MachineHead should reopen an organized thread in a blog with more specific info. A bit like what Chill did, involving his resume, price (even if it is negotiable, give an estimate, people feel reluctant taking shots), session length, available times, etc...

On another subject, what would be a top 16 USA list? Can someone help create one?
1.(T)IdrA & Artosis (cuz he is gosu)
2.(P)NonY
3.(Z)Love (if he still plays)
4.inControl
5.Nyoken
6.Yoshi
7.G5
8.Louder
9.KawiiRice
10.LzGamer
11.Chosen
12.Mercury
13.Scan
14.iNka
15.Evade
16.Tasteless? lol
I dont know nearly enough players to even make a list lol let alone judge how good they are in comparison with one another =)

Tasteless is terrible atm afaik ;D. You could edit that list with someone like mmmm: (T)Assem? aaaaaand Machine for example... ;D
Gosugamer's top 15 americans (number on the left = foreign rankings from all countries, numbers on the right = points that ranking is bases of)

#1 (T)IdrA (1495)
#75 Nyoken (1104)
#76 (P)Yosh (1103)
#80 Chosen (1094)
#86 Kiwibird (1086)
#94 Tear (1075)
#95 (T)Assem (1074)
#120 Bamboo (1050)
#137 Gretorp (1037)
#146 (T)Lee (1028)
#149 Semih (1026)
#180 bOngsmOke (1013)
#188 LzGaMeR (1011)
#193 Machine (1009)
#207 Sadist (1004)

p.s. No. 16 = #223 G5 (1001)


IMBA - International Mountain Bicycling Association.
Wotans_Fire
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United Kingdom294 Posts
January 05 2010 20:06 GMT
#113
You have to charge less than incontrol and if you are protoss main race then you are probably more skilled than inc with P so I would use that as a main selling point. I don't believe this to be profitable hourly rate though.
"OMG this is pivotal!" ~ Tasteless "Indeed" ~ Artosis
Tippereth
Profile Joined December 2009
United States252 Posts
January 05 2010 20:11 GMT
#114
I feel like you took more shit than was deserved, machine, but you still deserved some shit because nobody knows if you're good. This would be like me offering to coach people when I don't even play Starcraft. My qualifications? I watch Day[9]'s cast, and abascus live translating the coaches means that I know all about the current metagame. For srs, strategical tips, just buy me dinner.
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
January 05 2010 20:17 GMT
#115
On January 06 2010 01:21 IdrA wrote:
you're the guy who agreed to postpone our match and then showed up and took a walkover right?

ahahaha not such a good start
http://www.starcraftmecca.net - Founder
Louder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States2276 Posts
January 05 2010 20:21 GMT
#116
This post is the biggest LOL I've ever seen xD
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
January 05 2010 20:35 GMT
#117
btw if anyone wants real coaching go here: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=109342

^_^

Self promotion for the win
n3m0
Profile Joined January 2007
Portugal247 Posts
January 05 2010 20:43 GMT
#118
On January 06 2010 05:03 ProoM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On (Z)January 06 2010 04:55 Leath wrote:
I think MachineHead should reopen an organized thread in a blog with more specific info. A bit like what Chill did, involving his resume, price (even if it is negotiable, give an estimate, people feel reluctant taking shots), session length, available times, etc...

On another subject, what would be a top 16 USA list? Can someone help create one?
1.(T)IdrA & Artosis (cuz he is gosu)
2.(P)NonY
3.(Z)Love (if he still plays)
4.inControl
5.Nyoken
6.Yoshi
7.G5
8.Louder
9.KawiiRice
10.LzGamer
11.Chosen
12.Mercury
13.Scan
14.iNka
15.Evade
16.Tasteless? lol
I dont know nearly enough players to even make a list lol let alone judge how good they are in comparison with one another =)

Tasteless is terrible atm afaik ;D. You could edit that list with someone like mmmm: (T)Assem? aaaaaand Machine for example... ;D
Gosugamer's top 15 americans (number on the left = foreign rankings from all countries, numbers on the right = points that ranking is bases of)

#1 (T)IdrA (1495)
#75 Nyoken (1104)
#76 (P)Yosh (1103)
#80 Chosen (1094)
#86 Kiwibird (1086)
#94 Tear (1075)
#95 (T)Assem (1074)
#120 Bamboo (1050)
#137 Gretorp (1037)
#146 (T)Lee (1028)
#149 Semih (1026)
#180 bOngsmOke (1013)
#188 LzGaMeR (1011)
#193 Machine (1009)
#207 Sadist (1004)

p.s. No. 16 = #223 G5 (1001)




Who gives a f*** about gg.net ranking? srsly ._.a
Former WGT Clan League Admin - Former Portugal A team manager - Former member of MgZ) / iG. / LRM) - Starcraft Broodwar
n3m0
Profile Joined January 2007
Portugal247 Posts
January 05 2010 20:45 GMT
#119
On January 06 2010 04:55 Leath wrote:
I think MachineHead should reopen an organized thread in a blog with more specific info. A bit like what Chill did, involving his resume, price (even if it is negotiable, give an estimate, people feel reluctant taking shots), session length, available times, etc...

On another subject, what would be a top 16 USA list? Can someone help create one?
1.iDra & Artosis (cuz he is gosu)
2.NoNy
3.Love (if he still plays)
4.inControl
5.Nyoken
6.Yoshi
7.G5
8.Louder
9.KawiiRice
10.LzGamer
11.Chosen
12.Mercury
13.Scan
14.iNka
15.Evade
16.Tasteless? lol
I dont know nearly enough players to even make a list lol let alone judge how good they are in comparison with one another =)


1. artosis ahaha

I thought scan was korean..

Former WGT Clan League Admin - Former Portugal A team manager - Former member of MgZ) / iG. / LRM) - Starcraft Broodwar
Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
January 05 2010 20:47 GMT
#120
On January 06 2010 03:35 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2010 03:32 machinehead.. wrote:
On January 06 2010 03:29 G5 wrote:
On January 06 2010 02:20 machinehead.. wrote:
Unless you are like incontrol that has won WCG USA, half the time being known simply means you seek more attention. I haven't been in a SC team in years, and just recently have I posted on a forum. Inactive or not, I'm always around top 16 usa, if not top 8, so if you think someone of that skill could help you, then go for it. If not, don't. I don't know what else to tell you.


"im always around top 16 usa, if not top 8"

uhhhhhh... have I ever met you before? Cuss if I haven't, your not top 8 or top 16.

Who are you again?

Oh and if you would like to play me 1v1 a few games so I can show you realistically where you are in usa, please let me know. If you do good I will gladly recommend you here.


G5, how do you qualify for something that is top 16 WCG USA without being top 16 in the USA? I know you are a smart guy, so hopefully you explain it to me. I haven't played you since years ago in a WCG qualifier. If it makes you feel good, you did beat me. Your PVT is one of the best in the USA. If you want a pat on the back just ask me.

The top X players in any tournament in anything are not necessarily the top X players at that time.


Thats not true, we all know Day[9] was 9th best player in the world at 2005
Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
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