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On January 06 2010 05:43 n3m0 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2010 05:03 ProoM wrote:On  January 06 2010 04:55 Leath wrote:I think MachineHead should reopen an organized thread in a blog with more specific info. A bit like what Chill did, involving his resume, price (even if it is negotiable, give an estimate, people feel reluctant taking shots), session length, available times, etc... On another subject, what would be a top 16 USA list? Can someone help create one? 1.  IdrA & Artosis (cuz he is gosu) 2.  NonY3. Love (if he still plays) 4.inControl 5.Nyoken 6.Yoshi 7.G5 8.Louder 9.KawiiRice 10.LzGamer 11.Chosen 12. Mercury13.Scan 14.iNka 15.Evade 16.Tasteless? lol I dont know nearly enough players to even make a list lol let alone judge how good they are in comparison with one another =) Tasteless is terrible atm afaik ;D. You could edit that list with someone like mmmm: Assem? aaaaaand Machine for example... ;D Gosugamer's top 15 americans (number on the left = foreign rankings from all countries, numbers on the right = points that ranking is bases of) #1 IdrA (1495) #75 Nyoken (1104) #76 Yosh (1103) #80 Chosen (1094) #86 Kiwibird (1086) #94 Tear (1075) #95 Assem (1074) #120 Bamboo (1050) #137 Gretorp (1037) #146 Lee (1028) #149 Semih (1026) #180 bOngsmOke (1013) #188 LzGaMeR (1011) #193 Machine (1009) #207 Sadist (1004) p.s. No. 16 = #223 G5 (1001) Who gives a f*** about gg.net ranking? srsly ._.a
I do, because I got put on that list! fuck yeah!
#120 Bamboo (1050) represent.
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I wonder why there is so much hate here. I've never seen any good player want to teach to some strangers for free, so some people might be interested in it.
I'm a D+ / C- player at most and I'm pretty sure I could be of some help for most of D- players, so with his rank I'm pretty sure he could help tons of players like me (unfortunately for him I don't have nor time nor motivation to hope getting better one day..)
Only real problem with his post I see there is that it should be a blog.
And yes, he hasn't accomplish must in the past but I'm pretty sure lots of people would pay for having lessons from top foreigners; if only they offered that.
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On January 06 2010 05:48 Valentine wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2010 05:43 n3m0 wrote:On January 06 2010 05:03 ProoM wrote:On January 06 2010 04:55 Leath wrote:I think MachineHead should reopen an organized thread in a blog with more specific info. A bit like what Chill did, involving his resume, price (even if it is negotiable, give an estimate, people feel reluctant taking shots), session length, available times, etc... On another subject, what would be a top 16 USA list? Can someone help create one? 1. IdrA & Artosis (cuz he is gosu) 2. NonY3. Love (if he still plays) 4.inControl 5.Nyoken 6.Yoshi 7.G5 8.Louder 9.KawiiRice 10.LzGamer 11.Chosen 12. Mercury13.Scan 14.iNka 15.Evade 16.Tasteless? lol I dont know nearly enough players to even make a list lol let alone judge how good they are in comparison with one another =) Tasteless is terrible atm afaik ;D. You could edit that list with someone like mmmm: Assem? aaaaaand Machine for example... ;D Gosugamer's top 15 americans (number on the left = foreign rankings from all countries, numbers on the right = points that ranking is bases of) #1 IdrA (1495) #75 Nyoken (1104) #76 Yosh (1103) #80 Chosen (1094) #86 Kiwibird (1086) #94 Tear (1075) #95 Assem (1074) #120 Bamboo (1050) #137 Gretorp (1037) #146 Lee (1028) #149 Semih (1026) #180 bOngsmOke (1013) #188 LzGaMeR (1011) #193 Machine (1009) #207 Sadist (1004) p.s. No. 16 = #223 G5 (1001) Who gives a f*** about gg.net ranking? srsly ._.a I do, because I got put on that list! fuck yeah! represent.
ahah :p
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This thread is going out of control, more and more every second...
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On January 06 2010 05:54 amoxicilline wrote:
I wonder why there is so much hate here. I've never seen any good player want to teach to some strangers for free, so some people might be interested in it.
I don't think you read any of either of his OPs correctly.
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Poor machinehead... 
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On January 06 2010 04:55 Leath wrote:
I think MachineHead should reopen an organized thread in a blog with more specific info. A bit like what Chill did, involving his resume, price (even if it is negotiable, give an estimate, people feel reluctant taking shots), session length, available times, etc...
On another subject, what would be a top 16 USA list? Can someone help create one?
1.iDra & Artosis (cuz he is gosu)
2.NoNy
3.Love (if he still plays)
4.inControl
5.Nyoken
6.Yoshi
7.G5
8.Louder
9.KawiiRice
10.LzGamer
11.Chosen
12.Mercury
13.Scan
14.iNka
15.Evade
16.Tasteless? lol
I dont know nearly enough players to even make a list lol let alone judge how good they are in comparison with one another =)
1.MachineHead 
2.Game
3.HuntaH
4.TimeStop
5.Ambrosia
6.NigoL
7.CaiHonG
8.NerO
9.CrAzY-X17
10.RonBurgendy
11.HungTran
12.Scan
13.WannaBeCool
14.Sonic
15.Vanilla
16.EG.Machine
USA's best players in order
Your welcome
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Guys, Incontrol is a well-known player and has more incentive to make it more professional -- as it could become a "big" business. This was a spur of the moment thing for me and I'm not sure if I even want to attract lots of people. With that said, I'm still eager to help some people who need/want it.
As far as top 16 USA, not that it matters and is hard to really pinpoint it due to all the inactivity at any given time, but it probably looks like this:
1) Idra
2) Nony
3) Day
4) Incontrol
5) G5
6) Lastgosu
7) Nyoken
8) Yosh
9) Chosen
10) Froz
11) LZ
12) Gretorp
13 Artosis
14) Machine (zerg player)
15) Semih
16)
When active, I have "officially" made it 2 times. Those are the other 15 players that come to mind. The point is USA does have good depth, and being top 16 is hardly a shabby thing. How many players that caliber are teaching others? I only know of gretorp and incontrol, so for players looking to improve, they are largely dependent on themselves. Any player that can help the masses below them should be a welcomed addition.
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On January 06 2010 03:30 machinehead.. wrote:
I hear you and that's probably something you should do. But in reality, if you give your rep pack out, they may as well just stop there and copy you. The premise is the pricing should be very affordable and if you are below b- caliber, then you should be able to gain something from it. If not, what have you lost? A few dollars? If you don't get better then just quit... It's not a big commitment...
So what you are saying is that if you allow people to watch your replays and copy them, they may as well stop there? Well if reps are that precious why doesnt someone just download progamer reps that are 50X better than yours + free?
Oh wait thats what I actually do.... oh shit wait a minute, I just realised I don't need your services.. How much can I pay you to fondle my cherries?
U know what would help a poker addiction? A credit card and a gun or a real job.
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On January 06 2010 06:12 G5 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2010 04:55 Leath wrote:
I think MachineHead should reopen an organized thread in a blog with more specific info. A bit like what Chill did, involving his resume, price (even if it is negotiable, give an estimate, people feel reluctant taking shots), session length, available times, etc...
On another subject, what would be a top 16 USA list? Can someone help create one?
1.iDra & Artosis (cuz he is gosu)
2.NoNy
3.Love (if he still plays)
4.inControl
5.Nyoken
6.Yoshi
7.G5
8.Louder
9.KawiiRice
10.LzGamer
11.Chosen
12.Mercury
13.Scan
14.iNka
15.Evade
16.Tasteless? lol
I dont know nearly enough players to even make a list lol let alone judge how good they are in comparison with one another =)
1.MachineHead 2.Game 3.HuntaH 4.TimeStop 5.Ambrosia 6.NigoL 7.CaiHonG 8.NerO 9.CrAzY-X17 10.RonBurgendy 11.HungTran 12.Scan 13.WannaBeCool 14.Sonic 15.Vanilla 16.EG.Machine USA's best players in order Your welcome
does the USA only have 16 players?
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I think your OP reflects your fear of this happening and it happened lol. Post your TSL rep pack and good luck.
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On January 06 2010 06:12 G5 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2010 04:55 Leath wrote:
I think MachineHead should reopen an organized thread in a blog with more specific info. A bit like what Chill did, involving his resume, price (even if it is negotiable, give an estimate, people feel reluctant taking shots), session length, available times, etc...
On another subject, what would be a top 16 USA list? Can someone help create one?
1.iDra & Artosis (cuz he is gosu)
2.NoNy
3.Love (if he still plays)
4.inControl
5.Nyoken
6.Yoshi
7.G5
8.Louder
9.KawiiRice
10.LzGamer
11.Chosen
12.Mercury
13.Scan
14.iNka
15.Evade
16.Tasteless? lol
I dont know nearly enough players to even make a list lol let alone judge how good they are in comparison with one another =)
1.MachineHead 2.Game 3.HuntaH 4.TimeStop 5.Ambrosia 6.NigoL 7.CaiHonG 8.NerO 9.CrAzY-X17 10.RonBurgendy 11.HungTran 12.Scan 13.WannaBeCool 14.Sonic 15.Vanilla 16.EG.Machine USA's best players in order Your welcome
someone should save this list for safekeeping in case this discussion comes up again I'd say this is canon
*edit* and if your interested in coaching you should check out my site http://www.xtremeonez.com
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To those that are interested in a replay pack, I will play some games this week and probably submit the pack at c+ or b-. Shamefully, I need to cut down on my bm in games -- when winning or losing. To those that view it as a win/win situation, I encourage you to give it a go. To those that find me evil, or horribly noob, or w/e, well you are entitled to your opinion and I can only hope that one day you will offer to teach me.
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Why are you guys picking on him??
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rofl trying to earn money from coaching outside people. Even korean progamers dont do that. GL. Get some korean mechanics first.
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On January 06 2010 06:39 Baddieko wrote:
rofl trying to earn money from coaching outside people. Even korean progamers dont do that. GL.
Korean pro gamers don't want their replays out there to begin with. And the title kinda suggest that they are already busy being progamers, practicing most of the day and preparing for their matches.
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If even Incontrol gets a great degree of arguments in his blog/thread (which i just found out about btw, thank you), machinehead should have anticipated all the negative posts and he should have come well prepared, meaning he should have organized a nice post so people can really see what's what.
Writing a complete post for 10-15 minutes = a lot of questions eliminated and, maybe, even some bm posts minus.
Writing some messages here in there where you explain you're not the best, but hey, that's not important = O_o
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On January 06 2010 06:15 machinehead.. wrote:
Guys, Incontrol is a well-known player and has more incentive to make it more professional -- as it could become a "big" business. This was a spur of the moment thing for me and I'm not sure if I even want to attract lots of people. With that said, I'm still eager to help some people who need/want it.
As far as top 16 USA, not that it matters and is hard to really pinpoint it due to all the inactivity at any given time, but it probably looks like this:
1) Idra
2) Nony
3) Day
4) Incontrol
5) G5
6) Lastgosu
7) Nyoken
8) Yosh
9) Chosen
10) Froz
11) LZ
12) Gretorp
13 Artosis
14) Machine (zerg player)
15) Semih
16)
When active, I have "officially" made it 2 times. Those are the other 15 players that come to mind. The point is USA does have good depth, and being top 16 is hardly a shabby thing. How many players that caliber are teaching others? I only know of gretorp and incontrol, so for players looking to improve, they are largely dependent on themselves. Any player that can help the masses below them should be a welcomed addition.
do these guys even still play ?
:D If so thats cool im pleasantly surprised especially about FroZ
and you went to wcg usa finals twice????? Really? I havent gone since 04 or 05 but I dont recognize your name at all.
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