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[OSL] Bacchus OSL Grand Final - Jaedong vs YellOw[ArnC] -…

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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
August 17 2009 05:22 GMT
#101
Yarnc could definitely win this...but I hope jaedong does
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
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Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
August 17 2009 05:26 GMT
#102
Ahahah
This is gonna be like the best finals evarrrr
jello24
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada327 Posts
August 17 2009 05:33 GMT
#103
the venerable ZvZ finals... 10 min games followed by 15 mins of commercials and replay commentary...

either way, given the fast nature of ZvZ, this is gonna be nail-bitingly exciting.
just lurking around...
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
August 17 2009 05:45 GMT
#104
Go jaedong!
Chance favors the prepared mind.
Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
August 17 2009 05:52 GMT
#105
Every time I think of this finals match I can't help but remember their game on medusa where JD just trashed him after being so far behind. Even getting a second expo, lol. JD will be rested, JD will have practiced, JD will get the Golden Mouse.
"Wow you could literally transport Lomo's face to a girl and the result would be pretty deceptive."
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
August 17 2009 05:53 GMT
#106
Poor Yarnc

[image loading]


You can tell that he's trying to ignore Jaedong looking over his shoulder, but failing.
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Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
August 17 2009 07:14 GMT
#107
Jaedong is a clear favourite but one should not underestimate Yarnc. Guy was playing really great ZvZ in recent months.

But it is sooo hard to get hyped for ZvZ finals for me. Anything but ZvZ The only thing that saves it is the fact that Jaedong is fighting to get his golden mouse..
stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
August 17 2009 07:29 GMT
#108
jaedong 3:2
yarnc winning first and third games.
hi
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
August 17 2009 18:31 GMT
#109
do it for the golden mouse jaedong!!
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
August 17 2009 18:43 GMT
#110
Don't expect JD to take this series so easily. As much as I prefer JD over Yarnc, ZvZ is a matchup where one little slip or BO will mess you up.

For example, just by sending your ovie into the wrong direction can cost you the game. Yes I know it sounds severe but I remember a ZvZ game couple weeks back that had this example
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clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
August 17 2009 18:47 GMT
#111
GO YARNC.
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MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
August 17 2009 18:57 GMT
#112
On August 17 2009 16:14 Lebesgue wrote:
Jaedong is a clear favourite but one should not underestimate Yarnc. Guy was playing really great ZvZ in recent months.

But it is sooo hard to get hyped for ZvZ finals for me. Anything but ZvZ The only thing that saves it is the fact that Jaedong is fighting to get his golden mouse..


In recent months, before about august hit, jaedong was playing godly zvz
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 17 2009 18:57 GMT
#113
OMG hype hype hype.

can't wait for Jaedong to Utterly Destory Fake yellow
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Assymptotic
Profile Joined February 2009
United States552 Posts
August 17 2009 19:02 GMT
#114
I can't say I envy Yellow. This may be the closest he'll ever get to a gold and he has to face Jaedong.
So close, and yet so far
KasPra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Estonia983 Posts
August 17 2009 19:25 GMT
#115
On August 18 2009 04:02 Assymptotic wrote:
I can't say I envy Yellow. This may be the closest he'll ever get to a gold and he has to face Jaedong.


lol, exactly :D

But whats with the second banner? Is it some kind of a joke?
amorpheus
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria2144 Posts
August 17 2009 20:56 GMT
#116
JD 3:0 eventually 3:1
yarnc has a decent zvz but ...
Sprite
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1015 Posts
August 17 2009 21:41 GMT
#117
YarnC i think will make this bo5 amazing and I can't help but root for yarnc hes facing Jaedong and this could be the only time he wins an OSL.
Firebathero is still the best!
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
August 17 2009 21:50 GMT
#118
What would u guys be watching? This or Live Blizzcon steams?
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
August 18 2009 01:11 GMT
#119
[image loading]

Flash
[image loading]

Jaedong Flash winning OSL
aznanimedude
Profile Joined April 2009
United States199 Posts
August 18 2009 02:01 GMT
#120
On August 17 2009 06:40 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2009 04:38 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
On August 17 2009 02:41 MuffinDude wrote:
On August 17 2009 02:40 Klive5ive wrote:
ZvZ is a fantastic match-up and these will be really intense and exciting games.
I think the main reason people dislike ZvZ is it's just too dam short... so why don't they just make it Bo7 or Bo9?!


Theres also not much variety. It never gets into late game zvz these days.


I think the feeling all around is that this will be your average predictable ZvZ matchup. But I've been thinking a lot about this, and I've been questioning my underlying assumption that ZvZ is locked into a fixed style of play. We have seen a LOT of 12 hatch punishment lately. I remember Jaedong most for seemingly always 12 hatching (no, I haven't looked at the statistics, just going by games that I recall).

But lately, that has not been paying off. Lately, it's been zergling aggression that has won the games - mutas seem almost secondary in some of these recent matchups. I wonder if we could see some really old school strategies like going evo for +1 melee and just punching down the door with lings. I really think that if it comes down to a 'standard' muta battle, Jaedong's got an edge.

I'd be veeeery interested in watching Yarnc's practice leading up to this series. From his perspective, he likely realizes that his 'standard' ZvZ is not up to JvZ level. His gameplan is likely in using strategic plays based on the maps or using strange tech.

This series could be a lot more exciting than we're all thinking.


True zvz seems to be changing a bit. Before, if you're jaedong, you defy the laws and make 12 pool > 9 pool. But nowadays, even jaedong seems vulnerable in zvz match up. But if every zvz is won by early zergling aggression, that would be boring 10 min games.


12 pool...IS...greater than 9 pool...
it's 12pool>9pool>12hatch>12pool
HOI POLLOI
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