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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
On August 25 2009 11:28 Sentenal wrote: Okay, I have no idea what you mean by that. Strawman...? I never asserted that the finals weren't boring. I said that most people who said the finals were boring were SKT fans. You then proved (quite convincingly) that the finals were indeed boring, which was too bad, because I never agreed to the contrary. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman_argument | ||
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LG)Sabbath
Argentina3022 Posts
On August 25 2009 11:34 Avidkeystamper wrote: I never asserted that the finals weren't boring. dual negation! ** head explodes ** anyway, well argued :p damn straw men don't leave us alone! call batman. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On August 25 2009 11:34 Avidkeystamper wrote: I never asserted that the finals weren't boring. I said that most people who said the finals were boring were SKT fans. You then proved (quite convincingly) that the finals were indeed boring, which was too bad, because I never agreed to the contrary. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman_argument You said you were implying something in your original post. Were you not implying that people thought this was the worst OSL in recent history, due to either being SKT1 fans, or Protoss fans (both of which more or less mean they think it was a bad OSL due to bias, rather than it really being a bad OSL)? | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
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Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
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NovaTheFeared
United States7222 Posts
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Alsar
United States130 Posts
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Eeevil
Netherlands359 Posts
On August 25 2009 17:02 NovaTheFeared wrote: The games weren't that exciting because Jaedong stomped Yarnc in a vicious fashion. Da truth ! A ZvZ is like sex with a premature ejaculation. It's great while it lasts but it's over way too quickly and you're left with an empty feeling of disappointment. Not that I have any experience with that of course. I don't play ZvZ. | ||
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vaMpYr
France119 Posts
but boxer was a complete different level . when he showed up on the scene , it as the biggest step made in the history . random A- would not beat boxer 2000 just because boxer would play so smart that the A- will understand nothing . boxer2000 almost know starcraft better than some A- in the present . in football , if pelée of the past plays in the present , what would it be ? just pathetic .. but can you think beat the pelée of the past ? NO WAY if you are not a professionnal | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On August 25 2009 09:41 Mr. Maestro wrote: Yeah a C- zerg can beat Boxer from 2001 easy using MODERN strategies This entire argument is pointless, but the average iCCup player of today has better micro, better understanding of builds, and just better understanding of the game in its entirety than Boxer ever did in the early days of SC:BW, even if he was one of the greatest innovators of the game. There's just absolutely no question that a mid-level casual player on iCCup is better than the top players of 2001 in basically every area of the game. We could seriously just play the 1hatch/2hatch lair builds like the old Zergs and win without much problem. On August 25 2009 21:11 vaMpYr wrote: boxer2000 almost know starcraft better than some A- in the present . Not in the slightest. These discussions are so pointless; why does it even matter? | ||
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Gumbo
Canada807 Posts
On August 25 2009 16:41 Scaramanga wrote: Let this finals go people stop bumping this thread the games were terrible I enjoy total destruction. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
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Gumbo
Canada807 Posts
On August 29 2009 05:51 CharlieMurphy wrote: Anyways we all knew it was gonna happen like that. | ||
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Mr. Maestro
Canada27 Posts
On August 26 2009 04:37 koreasilver wrote: This entire argument is pointless, but the average iCCup player of today has better micro, better understanding of builds, and just better understanding of the game in its entirety than Boxer ever did in the early days of SC:BW, even if he was one of the greatest innovators of the game. There's just absolutely no question that a mid-level casual player on iCCup is better than the top players of 2001 in basically every area of the game. We could seriously just play the 1hatch/2hatch lair builds like the old Zergs and win without much problem. Not in the slightest. These discussions are so pointless; why does it even matter? How is it pointless? I'm just making the point that it's pointless to compare players right now and the players from the old times. Obviously the concepts of macro and micro have evolved so why is he saying a C- zerg can beat boxer from 2001 using modern strategies that are superior? | ||
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Crunchums
United States11143 Posts
extractor trick 10 hatch 9pool drone gas drone ol 3lings pull drones off gas once you have enough gas for ling speed mass ling I wonder how specific to Holy World it is... | ||
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Ideas
United States8087 Posts
On September 11 2009 07:09 Crunchums wrote: In game 1 Jaedong did the following build order: extractor trick 10 hatch 9pool drone gas drone ol 3lings pull drones off gas once you have enough gas for ling speed mass ling I wonder how specific to Holy World it is... day9 recognized the build almost immediately as we he casting it @ blizzcon OSL party. So I'm pretty sure it's just a pretty old weird ZvZ BO that has been forgotten by time until now. | ||
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