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KarlSberg~
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
731 Posts
August 16 2009 10:37 GMT
#561
On August 16 2009 19:33 SilverskY wrote:
I have no clue how FlaSh won that game though. Seriously, he's seriously a Magician.

He was on the defensive much of the time, but apart from the early harssment, Iris didn't actually get to damage his eco at all.
There are 01 kind of people who know binary. Those who understand little endian and those who don t.
sAw
Profile Joined November 2008
965 Posts
August 16 2009 10:37 GMT
#562
Tasteless and SMD are confusing people with their ultra bad commentary. So many mistakes -.-
Don't get me wrong, I love them, but this...
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51706 Posts
August 16 2009 10:37 GMT
#563
On August 16 2009 19:35 thopol wrote:
Seriously. Fuck the Handsome Nerd. Every time I hear that I feel like disfiguring myself.


his constant plugging is fucking annoying.
if he does the same shit at blizzcon i'm going to lose much more respect of him.
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Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
August 16 2009 10:37 GMT
#564
On August 16 2009 19:36 motbob wrote:
If Iris had gone 2fac instead of fac port, do you guys think he would have won that game?

Ha, yeah that's pretty much what I meant just now.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
August 16 2009 10:37 GMT
#565
Iris got fingered. LOL
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darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
August 16 2009 10:38 GMT
#566
On August 16 2009 19:36 SilverskY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2009 19:34 sAw wrote:
On August 16 2009 19:33 SilverskY wrote:
I have no clue how FlaSh won that game though. Seriously, he's seriously a Magician.

He had 2 CCs to pump scvs, iris didn't do enough damage. Then Iris lost every single small skirmish mid map, and flash positioned his army very nicely and took 1 expo more than iris. Money surplus accumulated, iris got run over. Not that complicated.

Yeah I mean just from the beginning impression of the game. When FlaSh lost all his vults, and his rines, and all those SCV's. And then the Wraith follow up. It looked to be a sure win for Iris.


Yeah it always looks worse than it is when you fast expand and your opponent goes heavy pressure. As long as you don't lose your natural CC and keep pumping SCVs (which Flash did), your opponent has to do a TON of damage to make up for the cost of the Starport, Wraiths, Cloak, AND late natural, because you just keep making 2X SCVs and money isn't really the issue at the time.
sAw
Profile Joined November 2008
965 Posts
August 16 2009 10:38 GMT
#567
Hope Iris takes next game so we can see game 5.
jello24
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada327 Posts
August 16 2009 10:38 GMT
#568
haha flash.... i thought his early greed was going to cost him like it usually does... i was surprised at how iris just gave away half the map for flash to macro out of given his early tank advantage.
just lurking around...
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44401 Posts
August 16 2009 10:39 GMT
#569
On August 16 2009 19:36 Klive5ive wrote:
The biggest mistake Iris made was not utilising his tech.
He sacrificed macro for tech, but didn't gain enough from it.

He decided to go 1Fact1Port but the port did nothing for him. If that initial attack was backed up by the units from an extra Factory he may have won straight away.

Agreed.
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nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
August 16 2009 10:39 GMT
#570
If I pause the GOMPlayer, will it still be buffering? I mean like youtube, if your stream isn't good enough, you will have to pause the video for a while then watch it later. I don't mind watching the game a couple of minutes later seriously, rather than having hiccups every fucking minute.
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SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
August 16 2009 10:39 GMT
#571
On August 16 2009 19:38 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2009 19:36 SilverskY wrote:
On August 16 2009 19:34 sAw wrote:
On August 16 2009 19:33 SilverskY wrote:
I have no clue how FlaSh won that game though. Seriously, he's seriously a Magician.

He had 2 CCs to pump scvs, iris didn't do enough damage. Then Iris lost every single small skirmish mid map, and flash positioned his army very nicely and took 1 expo more than iris. Money surplus accumulated, iris got run over. Not that complicated.

Yeah I mean just from the beginning impression of the game. When FlaSh lost all his vults, and his rines, and all those SCV's. And then the Wraith follow up. It looked to be a sure win for Iris.


Yeah it always looks worse than it is when you fast expand and your opponent goes heavy pressure. As long as you don't lose your natural CC and keep pumping SCVs (which Flash did), your opponent has to do a TON of damage to make up for the cost of the Starport, Wraiths, Cloak, AND late natural, because you just keep making 2X SCVs and money isn't really the issue at the time.

Yeah, true true. That game was seriously the epitome of what good econ does in a game.
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Dice
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)926 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-16 10:42:27
August 16 2009 10:39 GMT
#572
On August 16 2009 19:36 motbob wrote:
If Iris had gone 2fac instead of fac port, do you guys think he would have won that game?

It's a possibility. But never underestimate Flash's defense when it comes to TvT. The guy's a fucking beast.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
August 16 2009 10:40 GMT
#573
On August 16 2009 19:39 nayumi wrote:
If I pause the GOMPlayer, will it still be buffering? I mean like youtube, if your stream isn't good enough, you will have to pause the video for a while then watch it later. I don't mind watching the game a couple of minutes later seriously, rather than having hiccups every fucking minute.

if it's that bad, why not try the livestream? I suffer from the same issue so I just watch it from livestream
dats racist
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
August 16 2009 10:40 GMT
#574
Iris not being aggressive with his early tanks ruined his chances. I mean he was only slightly behind after the early game, but short of proxy bbs or 5 rax on cliff, nobody will ever beat Flash TvT on Medusa. I really think he should've went more allin.

Flash hasn't used that seize map control -> double expand for a long time now but man I love watching that strategy. You can literally countdown to the moment when Iris's chance of victory drops to zero.

It's a huge shame not that many people are watching this. TvT is generally boring but not Flash.
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darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
August 16 2009 10:40 GMT
#575
On August 16 2009 19:38 jello24 wrote:
haha flash.... i thought his early greed was going to cost him like it usually does... i was surprised at how iris just gave away half the map for flash to macro out of given his early tank advantage.


Iris came VERY close to being able to Siege Flash's temples, which would have been a lot more annoying to deal with. Once Flash kept that from happening, Iris no longer had any advantage whatsoever in any way, and the outcome was inevitable given that it's Flash playing TvT.
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
August 16 2009 10:40 GMT
#576
gosh the slippery slope in TvT is really really steep
SwEEt[TearS]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1575 Posts
August 16 2009 10:40 GMT
#577
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
August 16 2009 10:41 GMT
#578
On August 16 2009 19:40 lazz wrote:
gosh the slippery slope in TvT is really really steep

Nah, usually it's the easiest MU to come back in. Flash is just good at getting a chokehold on the map.
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MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
August 16 2009 10:41 GMT
#579
On August 16 2009 19:39 Dice84 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2009 19:36 motbob wrote:
If Iris had gone 2fac instead of fac port, do you guys think he would have won that game?

It's a possibility. But never underestimate Flash's defense when it comes to TvT. The guy's a fucking a beast.

if Iris has thought of 2fac from the start, Flash would've lost

Even jaedong loses the rock paper scissor game
Okay he doesn't lose all the time but you get my drift
dats racist
CaptainPlatypus
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States852 Posts
August 16 2009 10:41 GMT
#580
On August 16 2009 19:36 motbob wrote:never underestimate Flash's defense when it comes to TvT. The guy's a fucking a beast.

Is that how he does it?
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