Wow, I was very much impressed how flash played the fourth game. Im sitting there thinking "okay, so Iris has a nice contain, defended dropship harrass quite well and is taking a much faster fourth. Should be a good game". Then 5 minutes later Iris is completely destroyed. That outflanking maneuver + doomdrop was just so incredible.

Zozma

United States1626 Posts

August 17 2009 01:49 GMT

#865

On August 17 2009 07:21 Ver wrote:

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Do you watch his games?

He more than is.

I'm fine with it if some people disagree with me and say that Flash's TvT is as good as Jaedong's ZvZ, but it certainly isn't "better". It is hard to compare two different matchups, but I'll say this clearly: There is no player who dominates any matchup more than Jaedong dominates ZvZ.

TwoToneTerran

United States8841 Posts

August 17 2009 01:54 GMT

#866

Well the two most dominant match ups are Flash's TvT and Jaedong's ZvZ, but in the immediate present, Jaedong's ZvZ has been very vulnerable, whereas Flash's TvT has had no questionable games lately. I think this is more due to other zergs figuring out ZvZ more and catching up to Jaedong, whereas Flash is just stepping into the same stride Jaedong's ZvZ used to be.

TheTeamLiquidTiger

United States627 Posts

August 17 2009 05:10 GMT

#867

well, i still think that Jaedong's ZvZ is not necessarily going downhill
for the games that he's lost, a) the psychological factor b)unneeded risk builds
without those, his ZvZ should still be top class

GoSu

Korea (South)1773 Posts

August 17 2009 16:56 GMT

#868

Just these TVT was.... OLLLLEEEHHH!!!!

StorrZerg

United States13919 Posts

August 17 2009 17:36 GMT

#869

what lol im lost with those pics

johanes

Czech Republic2227 Posts

August 17 2009 17:38 GMT

#870

+ Show Spoiler +

On August 18 2009 01:56 GoSu wrote:
Just these TVT was.... OLLLLEEEHHH!!!!

this is weird, but in a good way

d_so

Korea (South)3262 Posts

August 19 2009 14:48 GMT

#871

iris looked absolutely second rate after flash was done with him. even before the big fights flash was consistently ahead of iris in terms of unit count by 5-10.

skronch

United States2717 Posts

August 19 2009 15:21 GMT

#872

wow, i feel like the GOM finals got completely overshadowed by the MSL and OSL. I didn't even realized it already happened until I looked at this thread (whoops)

Ace

United States16096 Posts

August 19 2009 15:40 GMT

#873

/Jaedong fanboi mode excuse mode on

But Iris had to practice for MSL and Proleague while Flash ONLY had Gom to practice for! Not fair for Iris he was exhausted!

/qq mode

StorrZerg

United States13919 Posts

August 19 2009 16:13 GMT

#874

So now we get to see a show match between flash and jaedong now yesss?!

TwoToneTerran

United States8841 Posts

August 19 2009 16:56 GMT

#875

On August 20 2009 00:40 Ace wrote:
/Jaedong fanboi mode excuse mode on

But Iris had to practice for MSL and Proleague while Flash ONLY had Gom to practice for! Not fair for Iris he was exhausted!

/qq mode

It's a fair complaint. It's also supported by Iris throwing out so many proxies -- really fast builds that don't require as much practice time to plan out a game for. I think IRis was trying to schedule his practice intelligently and wanted to see if he could exploit the "Flash sucks against aggression now," fad, but it's not like this outcome was a surprise. Even with all the time he wanted to practice, the outcome being "Iris catches Flash off guard once with early aggression and is then beaten impressively by Flash's insane TvT," is pretty much exactly what everyone was predicting (aside from those predicting an upset, of course).