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Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 10:07:49
August 02 2009 09:04 GMT
#1
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(Z)July vs (Z)EffOrt
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July > EffOrt @ Destination
July < EffOrt @ Outsider
July < EffOrt @ Neo Medusa
July < EffOrt @ Heartbreak Ridge

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Heartbreak Ridge
Destination

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darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
August 02 2009 09:12 GMT
#2
Haha glad to see one of the two threads got reopened!
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
August 02 2009 09:12 GMT
#3
man that was kinda funny
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
August 02 2009 09:13 GMT
#4
July fighting!!

Would much rather see July at Blizzcon than effort
blabberrrrr
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
August 02 2009 09:14 GMT
#5
I need mod powers nowz so I can delete my other thread GL July!
koziol
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland768 Posts
August 02 2009 09:15 GMT
#6
well this one is higer so lets use this one

I hope for some exciting games, tho Effort is the clrea favourite
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
August 02 2009 09:16 GMT
#7
lol this is getting crazy XD
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
August 02 2009 09:16 GMT
#8
Would be so awesome if Artosis could join in casting on the TvT machup in the Finals.
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
August 02 2009 09:16 GMT
#9
Okay, this thread it is. Go July! Show this kid how a real man plays ZvZ.
BW forever || Thall
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 02 2009 09:16 GMT
#10
Just transferred threads.

July should 3-0 this. Effort's shown his major zvz strength to be mindgames, and you don't play those with july.
VorcePA
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1102 Posts
August 02 2009 09:18 GMT
#11
Now streaming.

http://www.livestream.com/vorcepa

I realize gomtv is accessible to pretty much everyone, but if you want to chat with us, you're more than welcome to.
Shitposting
Nokeboy
Profile Joined December 2008
United States1009 Posts
August 02 2009 09:19 GMT
#12
KT FINGER BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
August 02 2009 09:20 GMT
#13
KT Fingerboom? When did this happen, and is it a reference to Southpark's Fingerbang episode?
OSWater
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1343 Posts
August 02 2009 09:20 GMT
#14
gonna finger boom-boom you into my life.
girl you know id finger boom ya every night
Douglas is the king of the mountain, and the mountain is great
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
August 02 2009 09:21 GMT
#15
On August 02 2009 18:20 Tadzio wrote:
KT Fingerboom? When did this happen, and is it a reference to Southpark's Fingerbang episode?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=98844
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 09:21:51
August 02 2009 09:21 GMT
#16
July wants to go to Blizzcon! I WANT HIM TOO, TOO!!
blabberrrrr
VorcePA
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1102 Posts
August 02 2009 09:22 GMT
#17
Thanks for adding my stream to the list, Tadzio!

(or other mod who did a ninja edit :p )
Shitposting
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
August 02 2009 09:22 GMT
#18
Ah, I love these streams
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
August 02 2009 09:22 GMT
#19
On August 02 2009 18:21 poilord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 18:20 Tadzio wrote:
KT Fingerboom? When did this happen, and is it a reference to Southpark's Fingerbang episode?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=98844

They changed their name. Although hard to believe, it is legit.
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
August 02 2009 09:23 GMT
#20
July gonna take this !
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
endGame
Profile Joined June 2009
United States394 Posts
August 02 2009 09:24 GMT
#21
July Fighting!

Gogo July!
"...As the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they will and the weak suffer what they must." -Thucydides
Nokeboy
Profile Joined December 2008
United States1009 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 09:24:39
August 02 2009 09:24 GMT
#22
Wow Effort looks so nervous!
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 09:26:47
August 02 2009 09:26 GMT
#23
PL Spoiler

+ Show Spoiler +

(Z)EffOrt on a 7-game losing streak, can (Z)July make it into 10?
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 02 2009 09:26 GMT
#24
Also warning for people, incredibly spoilery cast.
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 09:30:45
August 02 2009 09:28 GMT
#25
First game is on:
Desti
July @ 6 white
Effort @ 12 purple

almost identical bo's so far both players 1 hatch lair july has a couple more zerglings on the map
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9034 Posts
August 02 2009 09:30 GMT
#26
Effort needs this. Or all his efforts are gonna be wasted.
ChaseR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Norway1004 Posts
August 02 2009 09:31 GMT
#27
July should go to Blizzcon! Gogo July!!!
Life is not Fucking Fair and Society is not Fucking Logical - "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 09:32:00
August 02 2009 09:31 GMT
#28
July breaks Effort's ramp with his zerglings, killed two drones so far
and he killed the spire.
Effort ggs
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
August 02 2009 09:32 GMT
#29
Sigh EffOrt... What happened to you?
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 02 2009 09:32 GMT
#30
July just destroyed effort with hidden lings.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 09:32:27
August 02 2009 09:32 GMT
#31
July raping EffOrt heavily. Owned a lot of his drones and made him to cancel his spire.
EffOrt GG's
JulyZerg 1:0 EffOrt

FUCK YEAH !
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Nokeboy
Profile Joined December 2008
United States1009 Posts
August 02 2009 09:32 GMT
#32
Fastest bo5 in history inc
Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
August 02 2009 09:32 GMT
#33
July is awesome
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 02 2009 09:32 GMT
#34
Wow, effort totally looks like he doesn't even want to be there right now.
Dice
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)926 Posts
August 02 2009 09:32 GMT
#35
8-game slump for Effort. He's crashing hardcore.
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
August 02 2009 09:33 GMT
#36
July wins the first game with some aggressive zerglings! GG!
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
August 02 2009 09:33 GMT
#37
God EffOrt just looked completely clueless right there. Where is the EffOrt that freaking pwned?
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
August 02 2009 09:33 GMT
#38
Oh geez, I thought Effort was going to deflect that easily and win.
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
GoSu
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
August 02 2009 09:33 GMT
#39
Poor EffOrt... I understand him if he isnt motivated to play.
CJ lost today.
EffOrt lost against Jaedong.
And now, he plays a match for the 3rd place of the GOMTV ? against who ? against ANOTHER ZERG.

....
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FranzF1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile1710 Posts
August 02 2009 09:33 GMT
#40
LETS GO JULY!!!!!!!!!!
Member #99999^99 of the fanclub of Grape, Reality and TurN
endGame
Profile Joined June 2009
United States394 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 09:33:57
August 02 2009 09:33 GMT
#41
Yay July! Now he's gotta take this D:<
"...As the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they will and the weak suffer what they must." -Thucydides
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 02 2009 09:34 GMT
#42
lol they zoom in on july as he adjusts his chair.
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
August 02 2009 09:34 GMT
#43
Effort doesn't look too focused.
Understandable.
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
August 02 2009 09:34 GMT
#44
I liked that, he hid those 4 zerglings from the overlord and ended up only having 3 or 4 zerglings alive when he got up the ramp, very nice move.
BW forever || Thall
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9034 Posts
August 02 2009 09:34 GMT
#45
July is mean.
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
August 02 2009 09:35 GMT
#46
Yes!! July!! fighting!!
blabberrrrr
koziol
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland768 Posts
August 02 2009 09:35 GMT
#47
here it comes.. 1-0 for july..
zvz is so unpredictable, how the fck jd has 80%+ winning rate:O
endGame
Profile Joined June 2009
United States394 Posts
August 02 2009 09:36 GMT
#48
July is a mammoth force to be reckoned with... what an appropriate analogy.
"...As the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they will and the weak suffer what they must." -Thucydides
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
August 02 2009 09:36 GMT
#49
Effort scouting in the wrong direction, July in the right :/
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
August 02 2009 09:36 GMT
#50
July ended up having the perfect amount of Zerglings to break up Effort's ramp and wreak havoc on Effort's main. Pretty nice game.
WindCalibur
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada938 Posts
August 02 2009 09:36 GMT
#51
On August 02 2009 18:35 koziol wrote:
here it comes.. 1-0 for july..
zvz is so unpredictable, how the fck jd has 80%+ winning rate:O


You are right. ZvZ is very unpredictable. That is why Jaedong plays JvZ.
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
August 02 2009 09:37 GMT
#52
July getting an expansion, Effort sending out his first lings
koziol
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland768 Posts
August 02 2009 09:37 GMT
#53
july already sending ov in good direction while effor is not
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
August 02 2009 09:37 GMT
#54
Wait what
POGGERS
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 02 2009 09:38 GMT
#55
Individual + PL spoilers: + Show Spoiler +
Effort 8-game losing streak?
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se7en247
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States487 Posts
August 02 2009 09:38 GMT
#56
rofl tasteless made a subliminal July fat joke by calling him a mammoth. XD
I didn't come to play..I came to win. Now lets play.
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
August 02 2009 09:38 GMT
#57
Effort attacking the nat, dancing back and forth; july doesn't bring any drones and loses a ling battle, natural hatch goes down
SaveYourSavior
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1071 Posts
August 02 2009 09:38 GMT
#58
You really have to question if Effort would have won that match if:

Proleague Spoiler:
+ Show Spoiler +
he didn't lose to Jaedong
a
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
August 02 2009 09:39 GMT
#59
counter attack by July with many lings
Effort throws down a sunken which comes up just in time
July going for offensive sunken colonies
SaveYourSavior
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1071 Posts
August 02 2009 09:40 GMT
#60
July tries to offensive sunken

it would have worked if Effort didn't put down the 2nd sunken

July GGs


1-1
a
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
August 02 2009 09:40 GMT
#61
Nice defense by Effort, gg.
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Dice
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)926 Posts
August 02 2009 09:40 GMT
#62
Finally breaks his 8-game losing streak!
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
August 02 2009 09:40 GMT
#63
EffOrt breaks his losing streak! Lol wut.
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
August 02 2009 09:40 GMT
#64
July GGs

Come on July, 2 more wins!
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
August 02 2009 09:40 GMT
#65
Effort got a second sunken up and killed all the lings.
July ggs
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4339 Posts
August 02 2009 09:41 GMT
#66
That was nice :-) Comon July!
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
August 02 2009 09:42 GMT
#67
It was a good game, this win should give Effort some confidence.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
August 02 2009 09:42 GMT
#68
Hahaha I can't decide who I'd rather see at Blizzcon - Effort or July. July is a legend but there will be no ZvP at Blizzcon ... on the other hand, just watching July pull those two Drones for an attempted offensive Sunken (and watching Effort handle it masterfully) was a testament to July's balls to the wall style.

Only reason to root for Effort is to see the expected Effort Flash finals at Blizzcon though - I love Effort but he'll be a superstar soon whereas this might be July's last dance =(
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
August 02 2009 09:43 GMT
#69
I wish July's sunken colony finished Would've been fun to see.
koziol
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland768 Posts
August 02 2009 09:43 GMT
#70
the commercials will last longer than those 2 games -_-
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
August 02 2009 09:44 GMT
#71
On August 02 2009 18:42 darktreb wrote:
Hahaha I can't decide who I'd rather see at Blizzcon - Effort or July. July is a legend but there will be no ZvP at Blizzcon ... on the other hand, just watching July pull those two Drones for an attempted offensive Sunken (and watching Effort handle it masterfully) was a testament to July's balls to the wall style.

Only reason to root for Effort is to see the expected Effort Flash finals at Blizzcon though - I love Effort but he'll be a superstar soon whereas this might be July's last dance =(

who cares about effort, he has absolutely no history. and word is that july is really talkative and open to foreigners
blabberrrrr
Simple
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States801 Posts
August 02 2009 09:45 GMT
#72
man, effort is EVERYWHERE
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
August 02 2009 09:46 GMT
#73
wow, ongamenet advertisement on Gom?
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
August 02 2009 09:46 GMT
#74
On August 02 2009 18:45 Simple wrote:
man, effort is EVERYWHERE

i dont see him in these commercials
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 02 2009 09:47 GMT
#75
Deciding game of the series, effort will 12 hatch and july 9 pool speed.
Dice
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)926 Posts
August 02 2009 09:49 GMT
#76
There goes Effort's 12 hatch again. Let's see if he can actually pull a win this time.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
August 02 2009 09:49 GMT
#77
.... 12 hatch? Didn't you learn your lesson before EffOrt?
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
August 02 2009 09:50 GMT
#78
OH MY GOD. JULY DOESN'T GO 6 LINGS FIRST!

LOL! EffOrt pulls his 12 hatch off :O
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
SaveYourSavior
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1071 Posts
August 02 2009 09:50 GMT
#79
On August 02 2009 18:47 Nevuk wrote:
Deciding game of the series, effort will 12 hatch and july 9 pool speed.


I believe this series is best out of 5
a
Dice
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)926 Posts
August 02 2009 09:50 GMT
#80
July decides to expand after 12 pool, so Effort is actually at a BO advantage. He should be safe for now.
koziol
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland768 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 09:50:22
August 02 2009 09:50 GMT
#81
effort has BO advantage
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 02 2009 09:51 GMT
#82
if july 9 pool speeds the next two games, i'm sure he'll win. I don't think july is that far behind though because he got a fairly early expansion and powered drones.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
August 02 2009 09:51 GMT
#83
Oh it was 12 pool? I wasn't paying attention ^_^
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 02 2009 09:51 GMT
#84
On August 02 2009 18:50 SaveYourSavior wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 18:47 Nevuk wrote:
Deciding game of the series, effort will 12 hatch and july 9 pool speed.


I believe this series is best out of 5

I was just predicting the future.
SaveYourSavior
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1071 Posts
August 02 2009 09:52 GMT
#85
On August 02 2009 18:51 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 18:50 SaveYourSavior wrote:
On August 02 2009 18:47 Nevuk wrote:
Deciding game of the series, effort will 12 hatch and july 9 pool speed.


I believe this series is best out of 5

I was just predicting the future.


It'll go best of 5 trust me
a
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
August 02 2009 09:52 GMT
#86
Spire timings are comparable. July's is faster by a little bit. But EFFORT MOVES OUT WITH HIS LINGS!

JULY!!! WTF EFFORT DOESN'T SNIPE THE DRONES... BUT HE STILL GETS A TON OF LINGS INTO JULY'S BASE! PREPARE TO SEE AT LEAST 4 DRONES GO DOWN!
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
August 02 2009 09:53 GMT
#87
Ownage by Effort
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
SaveYourSavior
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1071 Posts
August 02 2009 09:53 GMT
#88
a shit ton of lings battle it out


Effort gets a handful of lings in, mutas pop


July not microing his drones sealing his fate, natural hatchery dies


Poor july
a
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
August 02 2009 09:54 GMT
#89
yesss, Effort has this!
GG
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
August 02 2009 09:54 GMT
#90
July's economy is pretty much shot, and he loses his natural hatchery to boot. Effort micros his mutas FTW. All of July's mutas are down and he gets 0 drones with his lings

GG from JulyZerg
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koziol
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland768 Posts
August 02 2009 09:54 GMT
#91
Effort won this games only by BO advantage, seriousy >.<

maybe he could build a sunken but still.. :<
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 02 2009 09:54 GMT
#92
On August 02 2009 18:52 SaveYourSavior wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 18:51 Nevuk wrote:
On August 02 2009 18:50 SaveYourSavior wrote:
On August 02 2009 18:47 Nevuk wrote:
Deciding game of the series, effort will 12 hatch and july 9 pool speed.


I believe this series is best out of 5

I was just predicting the future.


It'll go best of 5 trust me

Agreed. I just think that's how game 5 will go.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
August 02 2009 09:54 GMT
#93
EffOrt 2:1 JulyZerg :\
Damn it, July concentrate !
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darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
August 02 2009 09:55 GMT
#94
Even in victory, Effort just looks ... apathetic. Not even the CJ face, just a "whatever" face.

Come on Effort, you can find consolation in winning this, haha.
Arkqn
Profile Joined August 2008
France589 Posts
August 02 2009 09:56 GMT
#95
This is bo5 ?
Elena[PaiN]
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
August 02 2009 09:56 GMT
#96
Hoping to see the "Heartbreak build" here!
koziol
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland768 Posts
August 02 2009 09:56 GMT
#97
please please - a 30 mins ZvZ, God please
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
August 02 2009 09:57 GMT
#98
On August 02 2009 18:56 koziol wrote:
please please - a 30 mins ZvZ, God please


You can find consolation in the fact that this map gives one of the best chances of that happening.
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 09:58:19
August 02 2009 09:57 GMT
#99
On August 02 2009 18:56 Arkqn wrote:
This is bo5 ?

Looks like it, doesn't it? ^^

Effort 9
July 3

hidden 12 hatch for July at 6
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
August 02 2009 09:58 GMT
#100
This will fail so hard
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darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
August 02 2009 09:58 GMT
#101
Hidden Hatch for July at 6, fun.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
August 02 2009 09:58 GMT
#102
July is uhh... Building a hatchery at 6. SDM and Tasteless go woooahhhhh...............
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SaveYourSavior
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1071 Posts
August 02 2009 09:58 GMT
#103
This is dangerous play

but it could give July the win he needs
a
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 02 2009 09:59 GMT
#104
That's the weirdest hatchery placement ever. Don't think effort will scout it.
koziol
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland768 Posts
August 02 2009 09:59 GMT
#105
proxy hatch, lol

not 30 min game this time >.<
Kage
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
India788 Posts
August 02 2009 09:59 GMT
#106
fuck those were pretty fast games... July come on man bring it back.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
August 02 2009 09:59 GMT
#107
EffOrt.... SPREADING OUT HIS LINGS!!!! WAT. EFFORT ALMOST SEES THE HATCHERY!!! WTF HE JUST MISSES IT! THAT'S
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poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
August 02 2009 09:59 GMT
#108
OMG EFFORT IS GONNA SCOUT IT

NOOO he went a little to far -.-
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 02 2009 10:00 GMT
#109
Woooow july. Brilliant preparation by july.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
August 02 2009 10:00 GMT
#110
Just by counting Drones Effort has got to know it's out there somewhere.
koziol
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland768 Posts
August 02 2009 10:00 GMT
#111
well July has bo advantage now..

EFFORT SCOUTS HE CANT SEE IT WOOO
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
August 02 2009 10:00 GMT
#112
EffOrt DEFINITELY saw the creep this time.. But wat. He's not reacting to it. EFFORT WTF ARE YOU DOING???
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poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
August 02 2009 10:01 GMT
#113
omg so close again, what the FFFFFFFFFFFf
koziol
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland768 Posts
August 02 2009 10:01 GMT
#114
Wow, best proxy hatch ever - effort cant find it!
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51567 Posts
August 02 2009 10:01 GMT
#115
how did he not see the hatch
Commentator
SaveYourSavior
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1071 Posts
August 02 2009 10:01 GMT
#116
Brilliant strategy


the hidden hatchery lets him build more lings than Effort expects, July didn't even micro that battle he just had more lings
a
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
August 02 2009 10:02 GMT
#117
Effort is going to cry once he watches the replay.
July's lings are just streaming in.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
August 02 2009 10:02 GMT
#118
He didn't see the creep.
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Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
August 02 2009 10:02 GMT
#119
WOW Effort drives July back. That's interesting. Spire done for both. EffOrt getting a creep colony... but July is assking before the sunken finishes.

SUNKEN FINISHES, BUT JULYZERG RUNS INTO EFFORT'S MAIN!!
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Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
August 02 2009 10:02 GMT
#120
Effort was so damn close to seeing the creep. Just wow.
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
August 02 2009 10:03 GMT
#121
lol did Effort really defend this?
Now he even has more mutas
SaveYourSavior
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1071 Posts
August 02 2009 10:03 GMT
#122
July's inferior micro compared to Effort's may have screwed him over


sigh
a
koziol
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland768 Posts
August 02 2009 10:04 GMT
#123
Effort is SICK, he can win!!!!
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
August 02 2009 10:04 GMT
#124
July....

He has to win with these mutas... He doesn't win with those mutas. EeffOrt looks to be in a fairly comfortaable position... A single ling snipes a drone. How sad. July also takes out an overlord with scourge while EffOrt snipes it the old fashioned way. July looking to take down another OL, but EffOrt moves in and stops him form doing it. July has lost all of his mutas and and lost quite a few drones to speedlings.
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poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
August 02 2009 10:05 GMT
#125
1 muta for july vs 5 of effort, both players are in the opponents main with lings
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
August 02 2009 10:05 GMT
#126
On August 02 2009 19:04 koziol wrote:
Effort is SICK, he can win!!!!

? its clear that hes going to win
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Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
August 02 2009 10:05 GMT
#127
I'm pretty sure Effort's lings saw the creep. Effort probably just didn't notice since he was looking for blips.
SaveYourSavior
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 10:05:56
August 02 2009 10:05 GMT
#128
July barely fails a spire snipe


22 HP


that could have changed it


oh crap one ling sneaks in and effort's spire goes down


that could change everything
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poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
August 02 2009 10:05 GMT
#129
lol Effort's spire survives with 22 hp ^^
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
August 02 2009 10:05 GMT
#130
LOL LING
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Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
August 02 2009 10:05 GMT
#131
EffOrt doing a good job of sniping scourge. SPIRE JUST BARELY ALIVE! 1 LING LOOKING TO SNIPE IT!!! 1 LING HERO!!!!
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poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 10:06:32
August 02 2009 10:06 GMT
#132
NINJA zergling snuck in and killed Effort's spire.
He still has more mutas though
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
August 02 2009 10:06 GMT
#133
Reminds me of Hwasin's marine haha
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Archon_Wing
Profile Joined May 2004
United States378 Posts
August 02 2009 10:06 GMT
#134
omg hero ling!
Nothing witty here atm
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
August 02 2009 10:06 GMT
#135
SPIRE 22HP OMG
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WindCalibur
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada938 Posts
August 02 2009 10:07 GMT
#136
You guys realize that it doesn't really matter that much if he sees the hidden hatch or nto right? Effort knows that July have a hidden expo just by lookign at his drone count and timing. July could either a) mass lings with the or b) make drones with the hidden expo. Effort's only benefit in finding the expo would be to kno whether July went for a or b.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
August 02 2009 10:07 GMT
#137
LOL HERO LING
POGGERS
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
August 02 2009 10:07 GMT
#138
LOOOOOOOL HERO LING KILLING SPIRE :D
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Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
August 02 2009 10:07 GMT
#139
Again, Effort micros his Mutas out of 5 scourge with impressive micro.

More lings coming in for July though.

GG from JulyZerg.
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Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
August 02 2009 10:07 GMT
#140
GG
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SaveYourSavior
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1071 Posts
August 02 2009 10:07 GMT
#141
Effort simply replaces muta production with zerglings


July has no ground defense at all.


July ggs

poor July!
a
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7836 Posts
August 02 2009 10:07 GMT
#142
Ah man so close
GoSu
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
August 02 2009 10:07 GMT
#143
gg EffOrt, you deserve it after the bad day you had.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
August 02 2009 10:07 GMT
#144
GG
sick defense by Effort!
Enjoy your trip to Blizzcon :D
Dice
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)926 Posts
August 02 2009 10:08 GMT
#145
Epic ZvZ
SaveYourSavior
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1071 Posts
August 02 2009 10:08 GMT
#146
This was a good series though, but maybe expected too much of July Zerg
a
ChaseR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Norway1004 Posts
August 02 2009 10:08 GMT
#147
If only July had killed that hatchery with his lings early on instead he moved them out of the way T_T
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Profile Joined July 2006
4339 Posts
August 02 2009 10:08 GMT
#148
Damn it :/
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
August 02 2009 10:08 GMT
#149
some bad decision making by July in the last game when deciding what to attack
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koziol
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland768 Posts
August 02 2009 10:08 GMT
#150
wow, last game was good..
Sad for July but effort deserved this i guess
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9034 Posts
August 02 2009 10:08 GMT
#151
Totally deserved.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
August 02 2009 10:08 GMT
#152
JulyZerg GG's
EffOrt 3:1
DAAAAAAAAAAAMN
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poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
August 02 2009 10:08 GMT
#153
Well, this ZvZ bo5 almost filled one hour of air time :p
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
August 02 2009 10:09 GMT
#154
yay my liquibet
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darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
August 02 2009 10:09 GMT
#155
Wish Bliz would just send all 4 GOM players ... doesn't a legend like July deserve a spot based on the combination of his history and his play?
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
August 02 2009 10:09 GMT
#156
On August 02 2009 19:08 Carnac wrote:
some bad decision making by July in the last game when deciding what to attack


Yeah, that was pretty painful.
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ChaseR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Norway1004 Posts
August 02 2009 10:10 GMT
#157
Finger boom lol
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SaveYourSavior
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1071 Posts
August 02 2009 10:10 GMT
#158
Too bad the next matches are 13 days later, seems so far away
a
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
August 02 2009 10:10 GMT
#159
So happy I'll see Effort at Blizzcon. :D
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Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
August 02 2009 10:10 GMT
#160
Lame. =\ Was really hoping for July at Blizzcon.
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blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
August 02 2009 10:11 GMT
#161
the top 3 of GOM aren't the ONLY Koreans that will go, right? There will still be invites, I think
blabberrrrr
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
August 02 2009 10:11 GMT
#162
On August 02 2009 19:11 blabber wrote:
the top 3 of GOM aren't the ONLY Koreans that will go, right? There will still be invites, I think


Invites are going to last year's top 2, Savior and Nada.
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
August 02 2009 10:12 GMT
#163
Congrats EffOrt! July gave a good performance.
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
August 02 2009 10:12 GMT
#164
sad
Kage
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
India788 Posts
August 02 2009 10:13 GMT
#165
I have to say Effort played so well in this, why the fuck couldn't he do this against Calm?
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2231 Posts
August 02 2009 10:14 GMT
#166
On August 02 2009 19:13 Kage wrote:
I have to say Effort played so well in this, why the fuck couldn't he do this against Calm?

because Calm is better?
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
August 02 2009 10:14 GMT
#167
On August 02 2009 19:13 Kage wrote:
I have to say Effort played so well in this, why the fuck couldn't he do this against Calm?


because he really likes to 12 hatch ~~
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 10:23:36
August 02 2009 10:19 GMT
#168
On August 02 2009 19:14 johanes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 19:13 Kage wrote:
I have to say Effort played so well in this, why the fuck couldn't he do this against Calm?

because Calm is better?

Statements like this make my blood boil.

I won't make any statements about their relative skill levels (just that they're both playing well), but I'll just say I'll be an EffOrt fanboy and a Calm hater till I die.
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Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
August 02 2009 10:32 GMT
#169
yep
effort just pwned
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Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
August 02 2009 10:35 GMT
#170
Um, Calm is hot right now, but he isn't "better" than Effort. Effort didn't play smart against Calm. Calm is... calling him an Aggressive Zerg is wrong, IMO, since Calm takes u all the way back to the era of Poor Zerg players like JinName. Basically, I view Calm as a Poor Zerg with modern strategy and mechanics. The key difference is that an Aggressive Zerg still needs to beat a Terran or Protoss opponent in econ in order to win, but a Poor Zerg says "fuck econ" and will play with such a hyper aggressive style that they are often behind a Terran or Protoss opponent in econ (and yet still can win).

Effort should have realized that Calm would use 9 pool builds. Because 9 pool is a staple of Poor Zerg players.

But that's also why JD is going to obliterate Calm; JD almost never loses to 9 pool. I don't mean "almost never" as in "JD almost never loses to Zerg," but as in "JD is exceptionally good at countering 9 pool Zerg even compared to other ZvZ builds." I simply cannot forsee any result other than a 3:0 victory for JD.
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Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
August 02 2009 11:20 GMT
#171
On August 02 2009 19:35 Mortality wrote:
I simply cannot forsee any result other than a 3:0 victory for JD.


3:1, it's the Jaedong way.

GJ EffOrt, although I wasn't really shocked. His play has been top class right now. Sure, he's falling off of his "nobody beats him" edge, but he's still destroying 90% of the field. Calm exploited a BO flaw in EffOrt's plan (12 hatch is EffOrt's hubris) - props to him, but it's not anything that anyone couldn't really do. Iris, as much as he is my favorite player, really lucked on two factors: 1) He plays exceptionally versus his teammates in individual leagues and 2) EffOrt had so much on his plate at that point in time.
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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
August 02 2009 12:20 GMT
#172
lol, not so much interest in this match.
Brood War loyalist
geod
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Vietnam450 Posts
August 02 2009 12:32 GMT
#173
Effort is just a new A zerg. He can win or lose to any other A zerg (aka Calm). July is not A zerg anymore and ZvsZ is his weak match up. End of dicussion.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
August 02 2009 16:58 GMT
#174
On August 02 2009 19:14 johanes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 19:13 Kage wrote:
I have to say Effort played so well in this, why the fuck couldn't he do this against Calm?

because Calm is better?


...What? You can't be serious.
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mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
August 02 2009 17:02 GMT
#175
Beautiful troll johanes, 5/5, very well executed.
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
August 02 2009 17:37 GMT
#176
offensive sunken and hidden hatch...even though he didn't win at least july brought some interesting things to a ZvZ
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
August 02 2009 17:47 GMT
#177
On August 02 2009 21:32 geod wrote:
Effort is just a new A zerg. He can win or lose to any other A zerg (aka Calm). July is not A zerg anymore and ZvsZ is his weak match up. End of dicussion.


A guy loses against pretty hard opponents and all of a sudden he's not S-Class anymore.

EVERYONE has a week where they just lose for the love of god.
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Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
August 02 2009 18:19 GMT
#178
Calm is better than JulyZerg, so Effort losing to Calm but beating JulyZerg is not a bizarre outcome.

The only players I would say with complete confidence are S-Class these days, would be Bisu and Jaedong. Maybe Fantasy as well, to round out the races.

Calm/Effort/Flash are obvious candidates for S-Class (Flash certainly used to be), but not fully convincing at present.
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
August 02 2009 18:49 GMT
#179
Lo, I read that post as Calm is better than Julyzerg. Actually, that is what the post gramatically says. But looks no one else did.
Jaedong
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
August 02 2009 18:55 GMT
#180
On August 02 2009 19:35 Mortality wrote:
Um, Calm is hot right now, but he isn't "better" than Effort. Effort didn't play smart against Calm. Calm is... calling him an Aggressive Zerg is wrong, IMO, since Calm takes u all the way back to the era of Poor Zerg players like JinName. Basically, I view Calm as a Poor Zerg with modern strategy and mechanics. The key difference is that an Aggressive Zerg still needs to beat a Terran or Protoss opponent in econ in order to win, but a Poor Zerg says "fuck econ" and will play with such a hyper aggressive style that they are often behind a Terran or Protoss opponent in econ (and yet still can win).
I agree. Calm is more akin to yellow than he is Julyzerg, for example. Hes really very aggressive but he does it in a strategical and intelligent manner.
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MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
August 02 2009 19:03 GMT
#181
On August 03 2009 03:55 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 19:35 Mortality wrote:
Um, Calm is hot right now, but he isn't "better" than Effort. Effort didn't play smart against Calm. Calm is... calling him an Aggressive Zerg is wrong, IMO, since Calm takes u all the way back to the era of Poor Zerg players like JinName. Basically, I view Calm as a Poor Zerg with modern strategy and mechanics. The key difference is that an Aggressive Zerg still needs to beat a Terran or Protoss opponent in econ in order to win, but a Poor Zerg says "fuck econ" and will play with such a hyper aggressive style that they are often behind a Terran or Protoss opponent in econ (and yet still can win).
I agree. Calm is more akin to yellow than he is Julyzerg, for example. Hes really very aggressive but he does it in a strategical and intelligent manner.


July is terrible at zvz. I'm surprised that he won one game against the person who beat jaedong in a box.
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SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
August 02 2009 19:19 GMT
#182
A solid run by July, he gave a good performance.
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Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
August 02 2009 19:37 GMT
#183
On August 03 2009 04:03 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 03:55 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On August 02 2009 19:35 Mortality wrote:
Um, Calm is hot right now, but he isn't "better" than Effort. Effort didn't play smart against Calm. Calm is... calling him an Aggressive Zerg is wrong, IMO, since Calm takes u all the way back to the era of Poor Zerg players like JinName. Basically, I view Calm as a Poor Zerg with modern strategy and mechanics. The key difference is that an Aggressive Zerg still needs to beat a Terran or Protoss opponent in econ in order to win, but a Poor Zerg says "fuck econ" and will play with such a hyper aggressive style that they are often behind a Terran or Protoss opponent in econ (and yet still can win).
I agree. Calm is more akin to yellow than he is Julyzerg, for example. Hes really very aggressive but he does it in a strategical and intelligent manner.


July is terrible at zvz. I'm surprised that he won one game against the person who beat jaedong in a box.

Would you beat him in a box?
Would you beat him with a fox?
My strategy is to fork people.
dl2agon
Profile Joined June 2009
United States473 Posts
August 02 2009 20:02 GMT
#184
We talking about Calm? The same Calm that lost the ACE match vs Khan's Jangbi speedlot rush?

LOL
stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
August 02 2009 20:17 GMT
#185
On August 03 2009 05:02 dl2agon wrote:
We talking about Calm? The same Calm that lost the ACE match vs Khan's Jangbi speedlot rush?

LOL

The same Calm who 3-0'd EffOrt, 'dl2agon'.

LOL
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 20:21:18
August 02 2009 20:19 GMT
#186
On August 03 2009 05:02 dl2agon wrote:
We talking about Calm? The same Calm that lost the ACE match vs Khan's Jangbi speedlot rush?

LOL
Were talking about the man who has had a 69.64% win rate since 2009...

LOL?
On August 03 2009 04:37 Severedevil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 04:03 MuffinDude wrote:
On August 03 2009 03:55 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On August 02 2009 19:35 Mortality wrote:
Um, Calm is hot right now, but he isn't "better" than Effort. Effort didn't play smart against Calm. Calm is... calling him an Aggressive Zerg is wrong, IMO, since Calm takes u all the way back to the era of Poor Zerg players like JinName. Basically, I view Calm as a Poor Zerg with modern strategy and mechanics. The key difference is that an Aggressive Zerg still needs to beat a Terran or Protoss opponent in econ in order to win, but a Poor Zerg says "fuck econ" and will play with such a hyper aggressive style that they are often behind a Terran or Protoss opponent in econ (and yet still can win).
I agree. Calm is more akin to yellow than he is Julyzerg, for example. Hes really very aggressive but he does it in a strategical and intelligent manner.


July is terrible at zvz. I'm surprised that he won one game against the person who beat jaedong in a box.

Would you beat him in a box?
Would you beat him with a fox?
No, but since the 2008 ever osl, 79% of pro zergs would... [his win rate is 21% in case your wondering...]
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8167 Posts
August 03 2009 00:04 GMT
#187
noooooo

I really wanted Tushin to go to Blizzcon
Free Palestine
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8167 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-03 00:11:18
August 03 2009 00:10 GMT
#188
On August 02 2009 19:11 darktreb wrote:
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On August 02 2009 19:11 blabber wrote:
the top 3 of GOM aren't the ONLY Koreans that will go, right? There will still be invites, I think


Invites are going to last year's top 2, Savior and Nada.


goddamnit this blizzcon tourney is going to be not nearly as good as previous ones


No protoss at all?

at least flash vs effort might be good.
Free Palestine
saikeraku
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada2933 Posts
August 03 2009 01:35 GMT
#189
Aw... so wanted July to take it =(
geod
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Vietnam450 Posts
August 03 2009 01:57 GMT
#190
On August 03 2009 02:47 Jayme wrote:
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On August 02 2009 21:32 geod wrote:
Effort is just a new A zerg. He can win or lose to any other A zerg (aka Calm). July is not A zerg anymore and ZvsZ is his weak match up. End of dicussion.


A guy loses against pretty hard opponents and all of a sudden he's not S-Class anymore.

EVERYONE has a week where they just lose for the love of god.


Effort wasn't and is not a S class zerg yet. He nevert enters the semi final of any star league.
Having a hot streak means shit in this case.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-03 02:13:42
August 03 2009 02:08 GMT
#191
On August 03 2009 10:57 geod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 02:47 Jayme wrote:
On August 02 2009 21:32 geod wrote:
Effort is just a new A zerg. He can win or lose to any other A zerg (aka Calm). July is not A zerg anymore and ZvsZ is his weak match up. End of dicussion.


A guy loses against pretty hard opponents and all of a sudden he's not S-Class anymore.

EVERYONE has a week where they just lose for the love of god.


Effort wasn't and is not a S class zerg yet. He nevert enters the semi final of any star league.
Having a hot streak means shit in this case.


So type-b is an S-Class zerg, and (Z)EffOrt isn't? I mean, it's not like EffOrt just beat one of the best Protoss of all time in a crucial ace-match. Or beat Flash and Jaedong in proleague action. And the streak? Only 27-3, the second best 30 game set of all time. Yeah, EffOrt's a chump.

Clearly.

On August 03 2009 04:37 Severedevil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 04:03 MuffinDude wrote:
On August 03 2009 03:55 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On August 02 2009 19:35 Mortality wrote:
Um, Calm is hot right now, but he isn't "better" than Effort. Effort didn't play smart against Calm. Calm is... calling him an Aggressive Zerg is wrong, IMO, since Calm takes u all the way back to the era of Poor Zerg players like JinName. Basically, I view Calm as a Poor Zerg with modern strategy and mechanics. The key difference is that an Aggressive Zerg still needs to beat a Terran or Protoss opponent in econ in order to win, but a Poor Zerg says "fuck econ" and will play with such a hyper aggressive style that they are often behind a Terran or Protoss opponent in econ (and yet still can win).
I agree. Calm is more akin to yellow than he is Julyzerg, for example. Hes really very aggressive but he does it in a strategical and intelligent manner.


July is terrible at zvz. I'm surprised that he won one game against the person who beat jaedong in a box.

Would you beat him in a box?
Would you beat him with a fox?


I always love Kim Jung Woo
I love his metagame, yes I do!
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 03 2009 04:10 GMT
#192
fuck no july TT
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
ImNotBisu
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada142 Posts
August 04 2009 04:48 GMT
#193
dammit fatzerg, not even a 3rd place medal.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
August 04 2009 04:55 GMT
#194
FFFFFFFFFU =(
TranslatorBaa!
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
August 04 2009 05:26 GMT
#195
Nothing surprising here. It would be a huge upset if July had won this one.

Now I am waiting for epic final; Please Flash, don't disappoint me.
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
August 04 2009 06:15 GMT
#196
Iris > Flash 3:1, heard it here first
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
August 04 2009 06:46 GMT
#197
On August 04 2009 15:15 Mortician wrote:
Iris > Flash 3:1, heard it here first
The above prediction is wrong, heard it here first.
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