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On July 26 2009 12:15 Count9 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2009 12:11 Zato-1 wrote:On July 26 2009 11:53 Kyo Yuy wrote:On July 26 2009 10:41 Aegraen wrote:Ah, I'm glad I'm a SKT1 fan, don't have to worry about Bisu, Best, and Fantasy  (Imagine if we get to see Boxer in the finals...omg! (This is probably a pipe dream though)) Personally, I hope Khan wins, as it will be easier for SKT1 fans. Fixed. I'd rather deal with KHAN fans than CJ or Hwaseung OZ fans. Fans from the latter two teams tend to like to bash non-zerg players/other teams/not-Jaedong-or-Savior regardless of which team actually wins. CJ fans do annoy me, Oz fans not so much. Still- go Khan! Show CJ the Protoss race can still win at high level play! Oz fans are fine until JD loses, then there's 10 pages of 'does he look tired?' and 'look at his schedule'. There's one thing you have to keep in mind when it comes to Jaedong: He's the best damn Starcraft player in the world. Some will contend that Bisu might be above him, but no one will argue with the fact that he's damn good. He also works his ass off practicing. When you have a guy like that, I'd say it's not unreasonable to give him the benefit of the doubt when he loses a game (especially during the period he was playing on stage every single day, almost).
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On July 26 2009 12:34 JFKWT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2009 12:19 Avidkeystamper wrote: I would rather have a CJ vs T1 finals simply because outside of Stork and Jangbi, I don't see anyone else from Khan that would give us epic matches vs SKT T1. T1: Bisu Best Fantasy TheZerg Hyuk Boxer(?) Khan: Stork Great Jangbi FBH Miracle Odin CJ: Effort Kwanro Much Skyhigh Iris Savior(?) i didnt watch yesterdays performance that Odin pulled off but its definitely not going to be a boring match SKT vs Khan =p I never said it would, I just said that SKT T1 vs CJ would be more epic. Sure, Odin and Miracle has the potential to be epic, but I'm not going to be hyped knowing that Fantasy will play, say Odin or Miracle, instead of Effort or Iris/Skyhigh. + Show Spoiler +Well, looks like people will find Oz fans annoying for a while even if we stop being annoying just because of our legacy, why not satisfy their pitchforks and torches?
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On July 26 2009 12:34 JFKWT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2009 12:19 Avidkeystamper wrote: I would rather have a CJ vs T1 finals simply because outside of Stork and Jangbi, I don't see anyone else from Khan that would give us epic matches vs SKT T1. T1: Bisu Best Fantasy TheZerg Hyuk Boxer(?) People always forget Canata 
I mean, he's only in the Ro8. Of the OSL AND the MSL.
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United States13143 Posts
On July 26 2009 12:40 Zato-1 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2009 12:34 JFKWT wrote:On July 26 2009 12:19 Avidkeystamper wrote: I would rather have a CJ vs T1 finals simply because outside of Stork and Jangbi, I don't see anyone else from Khan that would give us epic matches vs SKT T1. T1: Bisu Best Fantasy TheZerg Hyuk Boxer(?) People always forget Canata  I mean, he's only in the Ro8. Of the OSL AND the MSL. He's been mediocre and boring for so long that it's confusing to think of him as an actual good player.
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Will he HERE supporting my team! CJ hwaiting!
I BELIEVE
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On July 26 2009 12:40 Zato-1 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2009 12:34 JFKWT wrote:On July 26 2009 12:19 Avidkeystamper wrote: I would rather have a CJ vs T1 finals simply because outside of Stork and Jangbi, I don't see anyone else from Khan that would give us epic matches vs SKT T1. T1: Bisu Best Fantasy TheZerg Hyuk Boxer(?) People always forget Canata  I mean, he's only in the Ro8. Of the OSL AND the MSL.
Canata is getting better, but its still to murky to decide anything.
On July 26 2009 11:53 Kyo Yuy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2009 10:41 Aegraen wrote:Ah, I'm glad I'm a SKT1 fan, don't have to worry about Bisu, Best, and Fantasy  (Imagine if we get to see Boxer in the finals...omg! (This is probably a pipe dream though)) Personally, I hope Khan wins, as it will be easier for SKT1 fans. Fixed. I'd rather deal with KHAN fans than CJ or Hwaseung OZ fans. Fans from the latter two teams tend to like to bash non-zerg players/other teams/not-Jaedong-or-Savior regardless of which team actually wins. Classic example. If Jaedong beats Bisu, Bisu is a noob who can't play Starcraft worth crap. If Bisu beats Jaedong, Protoss is clearly an imba race and Bisu plays EZ mode and everything was unfair. Replace Bisu with Fantasy, Protoss with Terran, and EZ mode with mech build, and the same situation applies once more! As I've said before, KHAN won't be any easier for SKT and I feel in some ways they are more of a threat. Especially since KHAN's team structure is VERY similar to SKT1's - two solid Protosses, one solid Terran, and oh-yeah-someone-on-the-team-plays-zerg. It's true that Best and Firebathero have been questionable lately, but OVERALL their teams don't look very different in terms of their depth and the races that their strongest players represent. One thing I will give to SKT1 is that SKT1 has a lot more "star players" - Bisu, Fantasy, iloveoov, and Boxer. But I doubt the latter two will be played. Plus Bisu's performance on the individual leagues has been a bit shaky even though his Proleague results this year have been amazing. We'll see. I don't want to jinx any team/player I want to win so I'll just keep my fingers crossed and hope for the best.
Oh and having a match between the old proleague powerhouse against the new proleague powerhouse will be fun.
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Canata's good, but he doesn't have a style yet, which still makes him relatively forgettable compared to the level he's playing at. Like Light, or Calm until very recently when he started doing clever builds.
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SKT vs KHAN boring? No way, there's a lot going on between these 2 teams.. I bet both are looking forward to meeting each others in the finals. Im pretty sure as hell JangBi wants a piece of Bisu for taking so many golds away from him, while Best is probably still sore about Stork ending his PvP streak. Not to mention how Stork did an SKT1 all Kill in the previous OSL... Despite how the KHAN lineup is currently slumping like mad, both Stork and JangBi have a decent chance again Bisu/Best/ fantasy... when all fails, Samsung still has Miracle to pull their shit off.
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Holy crap, I said I would prefer CJ over Khan in the finals. I never said SKT T1 vs Khan would be boring. Less epic
Meh, I forgot to sign up for Fantasy playoffs but I would probably have gotten 0 points yesterday anyways. Hopefully Miracle or Much wins today so I won't feel so bad.
Somebody already pointed this out, but wow all 6 MUs tonight, I hope we get to see all of them.
Does anyone know if there's going to be an All-Stars match?
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No matter who it will be in the finals I'm sure it will be epic 
If can go to finals I hope to see Bisu vs Stork (the great rivalry) and Jangbi vs Fantasy (bth superbly good in their respective match ups). Just those games would make the final Khan vs SKT epic
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WOO LETS GET THIS PARTY STARTED!!!
KHAN CJ
GOGOGO!!
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is awesome32274 Posts
seven minutes bitchas ma fukas
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On July 26 2009 12:52 thunddr wrote: WOO LETS GET THIS PARTY STARTED!!!
KHAN CJ
GOGOGO!!
Yeah!!!
I'm so hyped actually. As if KTF with Flash was playing today 
I hope for some gg!
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On July 26 2009 02:07 -dash wrote:I don't even see this going to Super-ace. KHAN takes Day 2 4-1, with either firebathero or great dropping a game.
On July 26 2009 02:10 empty.bottle wrote:yep 4-2 again
On July 26 2009 02:13 BisuBoi wrote:I would never bet against Stork in a PvT. Especially on a map he's played since it debuted. Sure SoT is a ramp map, but Stork's Shuttle and carrier play is very strong. Also, why bet against Miracle? It's the same map he won on yesterday vs Kwanro. If he stays alert for the early game aggro, he'll rape Kwanro again. I see KHAN taking this 4-1 or 4-2 again.
On July 26 2009 02:24 -dash wrote: Movie beating Stork in PvP? I don't think so.
As baudo pointed out to me, anyone can win in playoffs with all the strategies perfectly planned out.
On July 26 2009 02:27 gk_ender wrote:i just think its funny that everyone wants to go with the obvious favorites in the matches, when Last night KHAN made u eat those words. Just because you don't see them play, doesn't mean that they're bad and u better bet ur ass that january has something Special planned for each of those matches
On July 26 2009 02:44 D00dles wrote:4-1 KHAN, great to drop his game. I don't see FBH losing TvT no matter how much of a slump he's in, his TvT has Always been very solid.
So First 2 pages all the KHAN fans (except dinmsab, he's so Cool) seemed heavily in favour of KHAN. So CJ and KHAN are both stupid with predictions, and we'll see who the "arrogant" fans are :D.
Anywayyy my predictions:
sKyHigh < Stork If the game goes past the early/early mid game, i see Stork taking this game because he's too solid.
Kwanro > Miracle
Kwanro will learn from yesterdays mistakes and aim for a 8 minute game at most and pool-first.
EffOrt > great Just being safe here. great could avenge yesterdays loss here with great play, but it's hard to see that.
Much < JangBi Unless Much 2 gate proxies, he loses most probably.
Iris > firebathero This is Really hard to tell.. 2 people who have dropped off from there hayday, yet FBH is still solid TvT and Iris seems to have got his TvT back. Can go either way
Movie < Juni Movies one of my few favourite players but Juni will surprise him on a map that favors zerg, barring he doesn't go Modesty Style.
ACE Match:
EffOrt > Stork Standard game.
Super ACE Match:
EffOrt < firebathero The big surprise of the night. FBH comes out and plays some of his old TvZ on a good ZvT favoured map. If not FBH, I predict great would win. I just have a bad feeling CJ will get in a winning position and lose.
Good luck!
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konadora
Singapore66163 Posts
ALL VLC STREAMS ARE DEAD ATM
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On July 26 2009 10:58 BisuBoi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2009 10:34 Jaksiel wrote: You say that Kwanro > Miracle "flies in the face of reason" because of one game they played against each other? Really? Yup, because of how that game played out. I'll be vindicated a few hours from now  . Or Miracle will get raped and you can quote me and ridicule me lol.
The idea is that one game is far too small a sample size to draw that sort of conclusion from.
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
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On July 26 2009 12:55 konadora wrote: ALL VLC STREAMS ARE DEAD ATM
We are all. going. to die.
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liveongame.gscdn.com is dead 
This "GS Content Delivery Network" has poor connectivity to me here in the United States 
And I discovered that TVAnts' original source is nothing more than the mms://liveongame.gscdn.com/L1 stream that we are familiar with so that's dead too.
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