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ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
July 26 2009 05:20 GMT
#741
I'm officially an effort fan now.
My god, 12 hatch beating 9 pool.
My ****ing god.
darkness overpowering
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
July 26 2009 05:20 GMT
#742
People, it was 9pool lair, not speed, 9pool speed is a bo win vs 12hat. Brilliant play by effort though, great shouldve used his mutas defensively though, you cant afford muta/ling backstabs, whileas effort has spores so he can afford muta backstabs, I feel he shouldve taken a faster upgrade(great) and ridge the game slowly with it. I really dont like the 2hat spore vs 1hat muta ZvZ metagame though, although its nice to see the game changing, and greats slow drop was pretty cool too.
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
July 26 2009 05:21 GMT
#743
On July 26 2009 14:19 Lebesgue wrote:
WTF was worng with Effort. Instead of attacking Effort's drones for good 10 sec or more he is just attacking spawning pool. Did he forgot his brain from the house or what?


Uh, there were spores all over the place
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
July 26 2009 05:21 GMT
#744
On July 26 2009 14:20 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2009 14:19 Lebesgue wrote:
WTF was worng with Effort. Instead of attacking Effort's drones for good 10 sec or more he is just attacking spawning pool. Did he forgot his brain from the house or what?


i think that it was the only thing that he could reach - effort already had a spore colo underneath his overlord in his mineral line.


Oh right. That would explain it. I must have missed it.
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
July 26 2009 05:21 GMT
#745
Now let's hope Much can pull off an awesome upset here... Teach that young whippersnapper a lesson.
♥ I used to lasso the shit out of your tournaments =( ♥ | Much is my hero. | zizi yO~ | Be Nice, TL.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
July 26 2009 05:21 GMT
#746
I really don't see Much beating Jangbi on Destination

I think his only chance is to catch Jangbi off guard with DTs but I'll be shocked if Jangbi isn't prepared for it. anything else and it'll probably be Jangbi by rape
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
July 26 2009 05:22 GMT
#747
On July 26 2009 14:21 FragKrag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2009 14:19 Lebesgue wrote:
WTF was worng with Effort. Instead of attacking Effort's drones for good 10 sec or more he is just attacking spawning pool. Did he forgot his brain from the house or what?


Uh, there were spores all over the place


I didn't notice the spore in the main. I guess I must have missed it
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
July 26 2009 05:22 GMT
#748
didnt you guys watch effort last time? he did same exact build and won the same exact way, just vs yellow
kwanro first tried it and failed, then effort took everyone to zvz school
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
July 26 2009 05:22 GMT
#749
On July 26 2009 14:18 edhead999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2009 14:17 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
Didnt effort do this build not too long ago and win?

Depending on the map and travel distance onf the Zerglings I expect to see this build used more often.


It was against fake yellow for the super ace. Yellow didn't last as long though =\

Effort also had the advantage that game since Yarnc went overgas.

Great's biggest mistake looked like getting lair before speed.

Sick play from Effort though.

zvz too awesomeeeeeeee
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QuakerOats
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1024 Posts
July 26 2009 05:22 GMT
#750
I don't understand why great didn't just attack the drones instead of attacking the hatchery in the beginning.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
July 26 2009 05:22 GMT
#751
damn effort vs jaedong again is gonna be good
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
July 26 2009 05:23 GMT
#752
On July 26 2009 14:22 Lebesgue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2009 14:21 FragKrag wrote:
On July 26 2009 14:19 Lebesgue wrote:
WTF was worng with Effort. Instead of attacking Effort's drones for good 10 sec or more he is just attacking spawning pool. Did he forgot his brain from the house or what?


Uh, there were spores all over the place


I didn't notice the spore in the main. I guess I must have missed it


I don't think all over the place, he just had one right to the left of his middle mineral that sticks out.

Let's see if we can spot it in the replay (you can see the creep colo there now).
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
July 26 2009 05:23 GMT
#753
On July 26 2009 14:22 QuakerOats wrote:
I don't understand why great didn't just attack the drones instead of attacking the hatchery in the beginning.


he was probably taught that the lings must be doing dps. that's kind of a random guess, but it's the only think that i can think of that would explain why he chose to attack what he did.
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TheFallofTroy
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada780 Posts
July 26 2009 05:24 GMT
#754
On July 26 2009 14:18 JWD wrote:
Much best have something creative planned here, because there is just no way he can keep up with JB in a straight up PvP...


Much went standard against Stork yesterday even though Stork has a 60% win-rate vs P.

So Much might go standard again seeing as he and Jangbi both have 50% win-rate vs P.
^_^V
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
July 26 2009 05:24 GMT
#755
On July 26 2009 14:18 O-ops wrote:
DID I JUST SEE A 12 HATCH BEAT A 9 POOL SPEED!!!????

EFFORT IMBA!!!

9 pool Lair. That was the first time someone actually pulled drones off all the way to the nat. Smart and well executed by Effort. But Great left something to be desired. he could've done more damage with 6 lings vs 9 drones especially since the drones weren't near any resources and could've be stacked.
Jaedong
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
July 26 2009 05:24 GMT
#756
On July 26 2009 14:18 uriden wrote:
Wow, an interesting ZvZ for once!

Dude...there have been so many great ZvZs lately. Pretty much all of Effort's ZvZs in PL playoffs have been amazing...also Kwanro vs. Zero in MSL was sick.

Jaedong and Zerg-heavy maps (Battle Royale, RAII) have totally changed ZvZ over the past year and a half or so. This matchup is now a far cry from the BO-determined "whoever has more mutas at X:XX wins" games of a few years back. New levels of micro and tactics have made ZvZ more sophisticated, and more enjoyable to watch, than ever.
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
July 26 2009 05:25 GMT
#757
man, that was good defense by effort against the ling drop.
not an ideal move by great.
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integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3161 Posts
July 26 2009 05:25 GMT
#758
Effort with the SLIGHTEST of smiles as they cheer for him, haha
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
July 26 2009 05:25 GMT
#759
Even though I voted CJ and I like Effort more than Great, I still wanted that slow ling drop to work just because the idea is pretty awesome.
Zero fighting.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
July 26 2009 05:26 GMT
#760
On July 26 2009 14:24 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2009 14:18 uriden wrote:
Wow, an interesting ZvZ for once!

Dude...there have been so many great ZvZs lately. Pretty much all of Effort's ZvZs in PL playoffs have been amazing...also Kwanro vs. Zero in MSL was sick.

Jaedong and Zerg-heavy maps (Battle Royale, RAII) have totally changed ZvZ over the past year and a half or so. This matchup is now a far cry from the BO-determined "whoever has more mutas at X:XX wins" games of a few years back. New levels of micro and tactics have made ZvZ more sophisticated, and more enjoyable to watch, than ever.


it's finally starting to turn into a matchup where the more skilled player wins. The thinking depth got a ton harder imo, and, just like the other mirrors, requires making the right choice of build against the opponent and the map.
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