• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:43
CET 06:43
KST 14:43
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
2026 KongFu Cup Announcement4BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains15Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block4GSL CK - New online series19
StarCraft 2
General
GSL CK - New online series BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT
Tourneys
2026 KongFu Cup Announcement RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament [GSL CK] Team Maru vs. Team herO
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 517 Distant Threat The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion BSL 22 Map Contest — Submissions OPEN to March 10 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Are you ready for ASL 21? Hype VIDEO Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours IPSL Spring 2026 is here! ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread No Man's Sky (PS4 and PC)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Mexico's Drug War Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT] TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3539 users

[SPL] Playoffs - CJ Entus vs Samsung Khan Day 1 - Page 7

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 66 Next
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
July 24 2009 04:28 GMT
#121
On July 24 2009 12:42 dinmsab wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2009 08:01 FragKrag wrote:
FBH won't win.

Khan is shiet.
4-0 for CJ imo

If it isn't 4-0, it's going to be 4-3 CJ



Show nested quote +
On July 23 2009 07:26 Itachii wrote:
CJ 4-0, fuck you Khan.



I guess its kinda true what they say about CJ fans.
+ Show Spoiler +
most annoying fans ever


Honestly, CJ is the most overrated team in my opinion. Sure they got depth. Sure they got great players. Sure skyhigh, effort, kwanro are playing great right now and much, savior, iris are great veteran players and movie does ridiculous snipes, but before winner's league began: effort sucked shit(overexageration, but he used to be nothing like he is now), skyhigh, kwanro, movie unreliable as fck, much, savior, iris been slumping for the longest time. It was since winner's league did CJ start to pick things up. This somehow make CJ fans superior over everyone.

And CJ players are one of the ugliest players in the PL imo. Don't flame me for this. Its just my opinion. Savior is alright, but effort looks like a snake to me.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
July 24 2009 04:29 GMT
#122
imo, it's not great who might necessarily force an Ace, but miracle. I think Kwanro will be well prepard, but that man on the 4th set seems to me to be extremly dangerous.

I believe CJ 4-2
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
July 24 2009 04:34 GMT
#123
puh leeze

CJ icons may be bandwagoning fanboys, but we're at least attached to our players, who aside from the horrible fail that was the GGPlay acquisition, are all home grown.

SKT fans sit on their thrones of money and golfclap when their store-bought mercenaries churn out yet another impressive slump. SKT actually makes players slump. July? Gorush? Even Bisu when he was first bought. Then SKT hits a fucking 1-outer when oov comes back to coach and produces Fantasy. Of COURSE you guys get the T who plays like Boxer. Lucky bastards. Do I sound bitter and jealous?

Yes, because Fantasy is fucking awesome and the most entertaining player to watch. But 75% of the bandwagoning SKT fans who only became fans when T1 started winning in PL a year ago all love Bisu more. Fantasy should be your son, but you would rather hug pics of a dude that will always be MBCgame at heart.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
July 24 2009 04:36 GMT
#124
On July 24 2009 13:28 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2009 12:42 dinmsab wrote:
On July 24 2009 08:01 FragKrag wrote:
FBH won't win.

Khan is shiet.
4-0 for CJ imo

If it isn't 4-0, it's going to be 4-3 CJ



On July 23 2009 07:26 Itachii wrote:
CJ 4-0, fuck you Khan.



I guess its kinda true what they say about CJ fans.
+ Show Spoiler +
most annoying fans ever


Honestly, CJ is the most overrated team in my opinion. Sure they got depth. Sure they got great players. Sure skyhigh, effort, kwanro are playing great right now and much, savior, iris are great veteran players and movie does ridiculous snipes, but before winner's league began: effort sucked shit(overexageration, but he used to be nothing like he is now), skyhigh, kwanro, movie unreliable as fck, much, savior, iris been slumping for the longest time. It was since winner's league did CJ start to pick things up. This somehow make CJ fans superior over everyone.

And CJ players are one of the ugliest players in the PL imo. Don't flame me for this. Its just my opinion. Savior is alright, but effort looks like a snake to me.

Hello Samsung fan, are you excited to watch Jangbi Stork and Firebathero in the MSL and OSL?? Can't wait, right!??!
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
July 24 2009 04:39 GMT
#125
hey ken f u - -
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
July 24 2009 04:43 GMT
#126
On July 24 2009 13:21 Nitan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2009 12:42 dinmsab wrote:
On July 24 2009 08:01 FragKrag wrote:
FBH won't win.

Khan is shiet.
4-0 for CJ imo

If it isn't 4-0, it's going to be 4-3 CJ



On July 23 2009 07:26 Itachii wrote:
CJ 4-0, fuck you Khan.



I guess its kinda true what they say about CJ fans.
+ Show Spoiler +
most annoying fans ever


Like everything else I am quite certain SKT1 should be number 1 here.


Wrong. That needs to be changed to Bisu/Jaedong fanboys who cry either "Map Imba" or "He Tossed the Game" after every loss. Those are more annoying than CJ Fans or any team fans to be honest.

Anyways, I hope FBH gets to show off his crotch-thrusting skills, cause that'd make my day. It's just more entertaining when he's off doing some wild post game ceremony.
God Bless
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
July 24 2009 04:50 GMT
#127
CJ HWAITING!!!
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
July 24 2009 04:52 GMT
#128


Honestly, CJ is the most overrated team in my opinion. Sure they got depth. Sure they got great players. Sure skyhigh, effort, kwanro are playing great right now and much, savior, iris are great veteran players and movie does ridiculous snipes, but before winner's league began: effort sucked shit(overexageration, but he used to be nothing like he is now), skyhigh, kwanro, movie unreliable as fck, much, savior, iris been slumping for the longest time. It was since winner's league did CJ start to pick things up. This somehow make CJ fans superior over everyone.

And CJ players are one of the ugliest players in the PL imo. Don't flame me for this. Its just my opinion. Savior is alright, but effort looks like a snake to me.


Yea, CJ players individually weren't great a couple months ago, but 1) The team still did great, and 2) look at how they're doing now. For the past month (or significantly longer for some players) Iris, Kwanro, Effort, and Skyhigh have been tearing it up and rocking the leagues. Effort is undeniably the 2nd best Zerg in the world, even beating Jaedong 2-0 in the GOM classic. Iris is in the semifinals of GOM and the RO8 of the MSL, even beating Bisu in the first game. Kwanro is in the RO8 of the MSL and has been extremely reliable, showing us how much his mid and late game play has improved, especially in the proleague. We're just calling it how it is. I don't see any CJ fans saying that we're better than everyone. I just see trolls flaming us and making up bullshit. Is it our fault that KHAN is full of slumping players?
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
July 24 2009 04:52 GMT
#129
On July 24 2009 13:43 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2009 13:21 Nitan wrote:
On July 24 2009 12:42 dinmsab wrote:
On July 24 2009 08:01 FragKrag wrote:
FBH won't win.

Khan is shiet.
4-0 for CJ imo

If it isn't 4-0, it's going to be 4-3 CJ



On July 23 2009 07:26 Itachii wrote:
CJ 4-0, fuck you Khan.



I guess its kinda true what they say about CJ fans.
+ Show Spoiler +
most annoying fans ever


Like everything else I am quite certain SKT1 should be number 1 here.


Wrong. That needs to be changed to Bisu/Jaedong fanboys who cry either "Map Imba" or "He Tossed the Game" after every loss. Those are more annoying than CJ Fans or any team fans to be honest.

Anyways, I hope FBH gets to show off his crotch-thrusting skills, cause that'd make my day. It's just more entertaining when he's off doing some wild post game ceremony.


SKT1 is the king of everything. I will not have you besmirch its honor.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
July 24 2009 06:00 GMT
#130
On July 24 2009 13:52 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +


Honestly, CJ is the most overrated team in my opinion. Sure they got depth. Sure they got great players. Sure skyhigh, effort, kwanro are playing great right now and much, savior, iris are great veteran players and movie does ridiculous snipes, but before winner's league began: effort sucked shit(overexageration, but he used to be nothing like he is now), skyhigh, kwanro, movie unreliable as fck, much, savior, iris been slumping for the longest time. It was since winner's league did CJ start to pick things up. This somehow make CJ fans superior over everyone.

And CJ players are one of the ugliest players in the PL imo. Don't flame me for this. Its just my opinion. Savior is alright, but effort looks like a snake to me.


Yea, CJ players individually weren't great a couple months ago, but 1) The team still did great, and 2) look at how they're doing now. For the past month (or significantly longer for some players) Iris, Kwanro, Effort, and Skyhigh have been tearing it up and rocking the leagues. Effort is undeniably the 2nd best Zerg in the world, even beating Jaedong 2-0 in the GOM classic. Iris is in the semifinals of GOM and the RO8 of the MSL, even beating Bisu in the first game. Kwanro is in the RO8 of the MSL and has been extremely reliable, showing us how much his mid and late game play has improved, especially in the proleague. We're just calling it how it is. I don't see any CJ fans saying that we're better than everyone. I just see trolls flaming us and making up bullshit. Is it our fault that KHAN is full of slumping players?


But does all of that even matter at the end? STX's lineup is not any inferior to CJ's. They had by.hero, Kal, Hwasin, Calm, and Shuttle. Even Last managed to beat Stork. Yet they still lost.

The point is that just mentioning individual players is meaningless. I still remember last year when Frozean beat Jaedong, only to have the vaunted FBH/Stork/Jangbi/2v2 all simply fail. Or how T1 last season got knocked out by an unknown OGN team with Bisu getting raped.

There's a lot more to a team Bo7 series than just matching up the players individually.
Meh
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-24 06:47:31
July 24 2009 06:43 GMT
#131
Outsider is The Maestro's map. I'd LOVE an ace game between Stork and Savior (cuz Khan tends to send Stork here)

However it wont even get to ace...
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Sprite
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1015 Posts
July 24 2009 07:11 GMT
#132
Im just gonna say this if firebathero beats effort CJ will lose because there star ace will be pelvic thrusted into slumping. firebathero is the key to the khan dynamic sort of like the featured TL article about him. firebathero has personality and gets Khan fired up after winning a game. I would not be surprised if FBH is sent out if it goes to Ace match his TvZ people seem to forget is just simply amazing when hes not slumping.


Firebathero is still the best!
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-24 07:17:18
July 24 2009 07:13 GMT
#133
On July 24 2009 13:36 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2009 13:28 MuffinDude wrote:
On July 24 2009 12:42 dinmsab wrote:
On July 24 2009 08:01 FragKrag wrote:
FBH won't win.

Khan is shiet.
4-0 for CJ imo

If it isn't 4-0, it's going to be 4-3 CJ



On July 23 2009 07:26 Itachii wrote:
CJ 4-0, fuck you Khan.



I guess its kinda true what they say about CJ fans.
+ Show Spoiler +
most annoying fans ever


Honestly, CJ is the most overrated team in my opinion. Sure they got depth. Sure they got great players. Sure skyhigh, effort, kwanro are playing great right now and much, savior, iris are great veteran players and movie does ridiculous snipes, but before winner's league began: effort sucked shit(overexageration, but he used to be nothing like he is now), skyhigh, kwanro, movie unreliable as fck, much, savior, iris been slumping for the longest time. It was since winner's league did CJ start to pick things up. This somehow make CJ fans superior over everyone.

And CJ players are one of the ugliest players in the PL imo. Don't flame me for this. Its just my opinion. Savior is alright, but effort looks like a snake to me.

Hello Samsung fan, are you excited to watch Jangbi Stork and Firebathero in the MSL and OSL?? Can't wait, right!??!


So what about you CJ players? Arn't you excited seeing the maestro destroying everyone in 2009? And what about the club day msl and incruit osl when none of the cj players made it to the round of 8, wasn't it quite a show?

Also, the current khan lineup is more accomplished than cj's current line up.

On July 24 2009 13:52 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +


Honestly, CJ is the most overrated team in my opinion. Sure they got depth. Sure they got great players. Sure skyhigh, effort, kwanro are playing great right now and much, savior, iris are great veteran players and movie does ridiculous snipes, but before winner's league began: effort sucked shit(overexageration, but he used to be nothing like he is now), skyhigh, kwanro, movie unreliable as fck, much, savior, iris been slumping for the longest time. It was since winner's league did CJ start to pick things up. This somehow make CJ fans superior over everyone.

And CJ players are one of the ugliest players in the PL imo. Don't flame me for this. Its just my opinion. Savior is alright, but effort looks like a snake to me.


Yea, CJ players individually weren't great a couple months ago, but 1) The team still did great, and 2) look at how they're doing now. For the past month (or significantly longer for some players) Iris, Kwanro, Effort, and Skyhigh have been tearing it up and rocking the leagues. Effort is undeniably the 2nd best Zerg in the world, even beating Jaedong 2-0 in the GOM classic. Iris is in the semifinals of GOM and the RO8 of the MSL, even beating Bisu in the first game. Kwanro is in the RO8 of the MSL and has been extremely reliable, showing us how much his mid and late game play has improved, especially in the proleague. We're just calling it how it is. I don't see any CJ fans saying that we're better than everyone. I just see trolls flaming us and making up bullshit. Is it our fault that KHAN is full of slumping players?


I never said you guys were saying you guys were better than everyone, I'm just saying just because your team is doing hella well recently, you guys r disrespecting all over teams. Heres an example.

On July 24 2009 08:01 FragKrag wrote:Khan is shiet.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
July 24 2009 07:16 GMT
#134
On July 24 2009 13:28 MuffinDude wrote:
Honestly, CJ is the most overrated team in my opinion. Sure they got depth. Sure they got great players. Sure skyhigh, effort, kwanro are playing great right now and much, savior, iris are great veteran players and movie does ridiculous snipes, but before winner's league began: effort sucked shit(overexageration, but he used to be nothing like he is now), skyhigh, kwanro, movie unreliable as fck, much, savior, iris been slumping for the longest time. It was since winner's league did CJ start to pick things up. This somehow make CJ fans superior over everyone.

And CJ players are one of the ugliest players in the PL imo. Don't flame me for this. Its just my opinion. Savior is alright, but effort looks like a snake to me.

So your argument is that, yeah they're good right now, but before winners league they sucked, and their players are ugly? The simple fact is they're very good right now and people are going to flock to the best teams (SKT, CJ, whoever). Bandwagoning is something that happens and will go on forever, so people just need to get over it, root for your team, and just ignore the the idiotic comments that the masses will always make, cause nothing you say is going to stop that tide from rushing in.
Moderator
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-24 07:19:04
July 24 2009 07:18 GMT
#135
On July 24 2009 16:16 p4NDemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2009 13:28 MuffinDude wrote:
Honestly, CJ is the most overrated team in my opinion. Sure they got depth. Sure they got great players. Sure skyhigh, effort, kwanro are playing great right now and much, savior, iris are great veteran players and movie does ridiculous snipes, but before winner's league began: effort sucked shit(overexageration, but he used to be nothing like he is now), skyhigh, kwanro, movie unreliable as fck, much, savior, iris been slumping for the longest time. It was since winner's league did CJ start to pick things up. This somehow make CJ fans superior over everyone.

And CJ players are one of the ugliest players in the PL imo. Don't flame me for this. Its just my opinion. Savior is alright, but effort looks like a snake to me.

So your argument is that, yeah they're good right now, but before winners league they sucked, and their players are ugly? The simple fact is they're very good right now and people are going to flock to the best teams (SKT, CJ, whoever). Bandwagoning is something that happens and will go on forever, so people just need to get over it, root for your team, and just ignore the the idiotic comments that the masses will always make, cause nothing you say is going to stop that tide from rushing in.


Sorry if it sounded like dat, but I'm just saying don't disrespect khan, you can say something like how your team is awesome and shit, but saying khan players suk shit is a no. And I told you not to flame me for the ugly part. It was just an opinion =P
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
July 24 2009 07:19 GMT
#136
--- Nuked ---
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-24 07:23:13
July 24 2009 07:21 GMT
#137
On July 24 2009 16:19 randomKo_Orean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2009 16:13 MuffinDude wrote:
Also, the current khan lineup is more accomplished than cj's current line up.


IPXZerg would like a word with you.


Don't get me wrong, Savior is awesome. BUT...
Note key word. Current. Mr. IPXZerg, while on the cj line up every so often, doesn't appear often enough. Few players on cj that i think are current: iris, skyhigh, effort, movie, kwanro.

For Khan it'll be stork, jangbi, fbh, great.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
July 24 2009 09:58 GMT
#138
You just know it's going to be a good day for CJ when CJ fans are going, "we have great players and a strong coach and a great team!" and Samsung fans are going, "yeah... but... you know... something might... happen... you know... And besides, CJ players are UGLY."

I think the games will be tough, but CJ will win day 1 handily. Day 2 is a totally different story.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
July 24 2009 10:04 GMT
#139
On July 24 2009 16:18 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2009 16:16 p4NDemik wrote:
On July 24 2009 13:28 MuffinDude wrote:
Honestly, CJ is the most overrated team in my opinion. Sure they got depth. Sure they got great players. Sure skyhigh, effort, kwanro are playing great right now and much, savior, iris are great veteran players and movie does ridiculous snipes, but before winner's league began: effort sucked shit(overexageration, but he used to be nothing like he is now), skyhigh, kwanro, movie unreliable as fck, much, savior, iris been slumping for the longest time. It was since winner's league did CJ start to pick things up. This somehow make CJ fans superior over everyone.

And CJ players are one of the ugliest players in the PL imo. Don't flame me for this. Its just my opinion. Savior is alright, but effort looks like a snake to me.

So your argument is that, yeah they're good right now, but before winners league they sucked, and their players are ugly? The simple fact is they're very good right now and people are going to flock to the best teams (SKT, CJ, whoever). Bandwagoning is something that happens and will go on forever, so people just need to get over it, root for your team, and just ignore the the idiotic comments that the masses will always make, cause nothing you say is going to stop that tide from rushing in.


Sorry if it sounded like dat, but I'm just saying don't disrespect khan, you can say something like how your team is awesome and shit, but saying khan players suk shit is a no. And I told you not to flame me for the ugly part. It was just an opinion =P


Gotta love it when people put up the "it's just an opinion" flame shield around a retarded statement.
-dash
Profile Joined August 2008
Netherlands103 Posts
July 24 2009 16:53 GMT
#140
On July 24 2009 16:16 p4NDemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2009 13:28 MuffinDude wrote:
Honestly, CJ is the most overrated team in my opinion. Sure they got depth. Sure they got great players. Sure skyhigh, effort, kwanro are playing great right now and much, savior, iris are great veteran players and movie does ridiculous snipes, but before winner's league began: effort sucked shit(overexageration, but he used to be nothing like he is now), skyhigh, kwanro, movie unreliable as fck, much, savior, iris been slumping for the longest time. It was since winner's league did CJ start to pick things up. This somehow make CJ fans superior over everyone.

And CJ players are one of the ugliest players in the PL imo. Don't flame me for this. Its just my opinion. Savior is alright, but effort looks like a snake to me.

So your argument is that, yeah they're good right now, but before winners league they sucked, and their players are ugly? The simple fact is they're very good right now and people are going to flock to the best teams (SKT, CJ, whoever). Bandwagoning is something that happens and will go on forever, so people just need to get over it, root for your team, and just ignore the the idiotic comments that the masses will always make, cause nothing you say is going to stop that tide from rushing in.


This man speaks the truth.
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 66 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 18m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 178
ProTech128
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 3922
Mong 133
Leta 57
ZergMaN 34
Shinee 22
Noble 18
Icarus 8
Britney 1
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K775
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox581
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor134
Other Games
summit1g6882
C9.Mang0286
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 50
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1565
• Lourlo1176
• Stunt513
Upcoming Events
GSL
2h 18m
Wardi Open
6h 18m
Monday Night Weeklies
11h 18m
WardiTV Team League
1d 6h
PiGosaur Cup
1d 18h
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
OSC
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
WardiTV Team League
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
BSL
5 days
BSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-13
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
NationLESS Cup
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.