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On July 24 2009 12:42 dinmsab wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2009 08:01 FragKrag wrote: FBH won't win.
Khan is shiet. 4-0 for CJ imo
If it isn't 4-0, it's going to be 4-3 CJ I guess its kinda true what they say about CJ fans. + Show Spoiler +
Honestly, CJ is the most overrated team in my opinion. Sure they got depth. Sure they got great players. Sure skyhigh, effort, kwanro are playing great right now and much, savior, iris are great veteran players and movie does ridiculous snipes, but before winner's league began: effort sucked shit(overexageration, but he used to be nothing like he is now), skyhigh, kwanro, movie unreliable as fck, much, savior, iris been slumping for the longest time. It was since winner's league did CJ start to pick things up. This somehow make CJ fans superior over everyone.
And CJ players are one of the ugliest players in the PL imo. Don't flame me for this. Its just my opinion. Savior is alright, but effort looks like a snake to me.
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imo, it's not great who might necessarily force an Ace, but miracle. I think Kwanro will be well prepard, but that man on the 4th set seems to me to be extremly dangerous.
I believe CJ 4-2
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puh leeze
CJ icons may be bandwagoning fanboys, but we're at least attached to our players, who aside from the horrible fail that was the GGPlay acquisition, are all home grown.
SKT fans sit on their thrones of money and golfclap when their store-bought mercenaries churn out yet another impressive slump. SKT actually makes players slump. July? Gorush? Even Bisu when he was first bought. Then SKT hits a fucking 1-outer when oov comes back to coach and produces Fantasy. Of COURSE you guys get the T who plays like Boxer. Lucky bastards. Do I sound bitter and jealous?
Yes, because Fantasy is fucking awesome and the most entertaining player to watch. But 75% of the bandwagoning SKT fans who only became fans when T1 started winning in PL a year ago all love Bisu more. Fantasy should be your son, but you would rather hug pics of a dude that will always be MBCgame at heart.
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On July 24 2009 13:28 MuffinDude wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2009 12:42 dinmsab wrote:On July 24 2009 08:01 FragKrag wrote: FBH won't win.
Khan is shiet. 4-0 for CJ imo
If it isn't 4-0, it's going to be 4-3 CJ On July 23 2009 07:26 Itachii wrote: CJ 4-0, fuck you Khan. I guess its kinda true what they say about CJ fans. + Show Spoiler + Honestly, CJ is the most overrated team in my opinion. Sure they got depth. Sure they got great players. Sure skyhigh, effort, kwanro are playing great right now and much, savior, iris are great veteran players and movie does ridiculous snipes, but before winner's league began: effort sucked shit(overexageration, but he used to be nothing like he is now), skyhigh, kwanro, movie unreliable as fck, much, savior, iris been slumping for the longest time. It was since winner's league did CJ start to pick things up. This somehow make CJ fans superior over everyone. And CJ players are one of the ugliest players in the PL imo. Don't flame me for this. Its just my opinion. Savior is alright, but effort looks like a snake to me. Hello Samsung fan, are you excited to watch Jangbi Stork and Firebathero in the MSL and OSL?? Can't wait, right!??!
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On July 24 2009 13:21 Nitan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2009 12:42 dinmsab wrote:On July 24 2009 08:01 FragKrag wrote: FBH won't win.
Khan is shiet. 4-0 for CJ imo
If it isn't 4-0, it's going to be 4-3 CJ On July 23 2009 07:26 Itachii wrote: CJ 4-0, fuck you Khan. I guess its kinda true what they say about CJ fans. + Show Spoiler + Like everything else I am quite certain SKT1 should be number 1 here.
Wrong. That needs to be changed to Bisu/Jaedong fanboys who cry either "Map Imba" or "He Tossed the Game" after every loss. Those are more annoying than CJ Fans or any team fans to be honest.
Anyways, I hope FBH gets to show off his crotch-thrusting skills, cause that'd make my day. It's just more entertaining when he's off doing some wild post game ceremony.
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Honestly, CJ is the most overrated team in my opinion. Sure they got depth. Sure they got great players. Sure skyhigh, effort, kwanro are playing great right now and much, savior, iris are great veteran players and movie does ridiculous snipes, but before winner's league began: effort sucked shit(overexageration, but he used to be nothing like he is now), skyhigh, kwanro, movie unreliable as fck, much, savior, iris been slumping for the longest time. It was since winner's league did CJ start to pick things up. This somehow make CJ fans superior over everyone.
And CJ players are one of the ugliest players in the PL imo. Don't flame me for this. Its just my opinion. Savior is alright, but effort looks like a snake to me.
Yea, CJ players individually weren't great a couple months ago, but 1) The team still did great, and 2) look at how they're doing now. For the past month (or significantly longer for some players) Iris, Kwanro, Effort, and Skyhigh have been tearing it up and rocking the leagues. Effort is undeniably the 2nd best Zerg in the world, even beating Jaedong 2-0 in the GOM classic. Iris is in the semifinals of GOM and the RO8 of the MSL, even beating Bisu in the first game. Kwanro is in the RO8 of the MSL and has been extremely reliable, showing us how much his mid and late game play has improved, especially in the proleague. We're just calling it how it is. I don't see any CJ fans saying that we're better than everyone. I just see trolls flaming us and making up bullshit. Is it our fault that KHAN is full of slumping players?
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On July 24 2009 13:43 Roffles wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2009 13:21 Nitan wrote:On July 24 2009 12:42 dinmsab wrote:On July 24 2009 08:01 FragKrag wrote: FBH won't win.
Khan is shiet. 4-0 for CJ imo
If it isn't 4-0, it's going to be 4-3 CJ On July 23 2009 07:26 Itachii wrote: CJ 4-0, fuck you Khan. I guess its kinda true what they say about CJ fans. + Show Spoiler + Like everything else I am quite certain SKT1 should be number 1 here. Wrong. That needs to be changed to Bisu/Jaedong fanboys who cry either "Map Imba" or "He Tossed the Game" after every loss. Those are more annoying than CJ Fans or any team fans to be honest. Anyways, I hope FBH gets to show off his crotch-thrusting skills, cause that'd make my day. It's just more entertaining when he's off doing some wild post game ceremony.
SKT1 is the king of everything. I will not have you besmirch its honor.
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On July 24 2009 13:52 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +
Honestly, CJ is the most overrated team in my opinion. Sure they got depth. Sure they got great players. Sure skyhigh, effort, kwanro are playing great right now and much, savior, iris are great veteran players and movie does ridiculous snipes, but before winner's league began: effort sucked shit(overexageration, but he used to be nothing like he is now), skyhigh, kwanro, movie unreliable as fck, much, savior, iris been slumping for the longest time. It was since winner's league did CJ start to pick things up. This somehow make CJ fans superior over everyone.
And CJ players are one of the ugliest players in the PL imo. Don't flame me for this. Its just my opinion. Savior is alright, but effort looks like a snake to me.
Yea, CJ players individually weren't great a couple months ago, but 1) The team still did great, and 2) look at how they're doing now. For the past month (or significantly longer for some players) Iris, Kwanro, Effort, and Skyhigh have been tearing it up and rocking the leagues. Effort is undeniably the 2nd best Zerg in the world, even beating Jaedong 2-0 in the GOM classic. Iris is in the semifinals of GOM and the RO8 of the MSL, even beating Bisu in the first game. Kwanro is in the RO8 of the MSL and has been extremely reliable, showing us how much his mid and late game play has improved, especially in the proleague. We're just calling it how it is. I don't see any CJ fans saying that we're better than everyone. I just see trolls flaming us and making up bullshit. Is it our fault that KHAN is full of slumping players?
But does all of that even matter at the end? STX's lineup is not any inferior to CJ's. They had by.hero, Kal, Hwasin, Calm, and Shuttle. Even Last managed to beat Stork. Yet they still lost.
The point is that just mentioning individual players is meaningless. I still remember last year when Frozean beat Jaedong, only to have the vaunted FBH/Stork/Jangbi/2v2 all simply fail. Or how T1 last season got knocked out by an unknown OGN team with Bisu getting raped.
There's a lot more to a team Bo7 series than just matching up the players individually.
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Outsider is The Maestro's map. I'd LOVE an ace game between Stork and Savior (cuz Khan tends to send Stork here)
However it wont even get to ace...
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Im just gonna say this if firebathero beats effort CJ will lose because there star ace will be pelvic thrusted into slumping. firebathero is the key to the khan dynamic sort of like the featured TL article about him. firebathero has personality and gets Khan fired up after winning a game. I would not be surprised if FBH is sent out if it goes to Ace match his TvZ people seem to forget is just simply amazing when hes not slumping.
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On July 24 2009 13:36 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2009 13:28 MuffinDude wrote:On July 24 2009 12:42 dinmsab wrote:On July 24 2009 08:01 FragKrag wrote: FBH won't win.
Khan is shiet. 4-0 for CJ imo
If it isn't 4-0, it's going to be 4-3 CJ On July 23 2009 07:26 Itachii wrote: CJ 4-0, fuck you Khan. I guess its kinda true what they say about CJ fans. + Show Spoiler + Honestly, CJ is the most overrated team in my opinion. Sure they got depth. Sure they got great players. Sure skyhigh, effort, kwanro are playing great right now and much, savior, iris are great veteran players and movie does ridiculous snipes, but before winner's league began: effort sucked shit(overexageration, but he used to be nothing like he is now), skyhigh, kwanro, movie unreliable as fck, much, savior, iris been slumping for the longest time. It was since winner's league did CJ start to pick things up. This somehow make CJ fans superior over everyone. And CJ players are one of the ugliest players in the PL imo. Don't flame me for this. Its just my opinion. Savior is alright, but effort looks like a snake to me. Hello Samsung fan, are you excited to watch Jangbi Stork and Firebathero in the MSL and OSL?? Can't wait, right!??!
So what about you CJ players? Arn't you excited seeing the maestro destroying everyone in 2009? And what about the club day msl and incruit osl when none of the cj players made it to the round of 8, wasn't it quite a show?
Also, the current khan lineup is more accomplished than cj's current line up.
On July 24 2009 13:52 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +
Honestly, CJ is the most overrated team in my opinion. Sure they got depth. Sure they got great players. Sure skyhigh, effort, kwanro are playing great right now and much, savior, iris are great veteran players and movie does ridiculous snipes, but before winner's league began: effort sucked shit(overexageration, but he used to be nothing like he is now), skyhigh, kwanro, movie unreliable as fck, much, savior, iris been slumping for the longest time. It was since winner's league did CJ start to pick things up. This somehow make CJ fans superior over everyone.
And CJ players are one of the ugliest players in the PL imo. Don't flame me for this. Its just my opinion. Savior is alright, but effort looks like a snake to me.
Yea, CJ players individually weren't great a couple months ago, but 1) The team still did great, and 2) look at how they're doing now. For the past month (or significantly longer for some players) Iris, Kwanro, Effort, and Skyhigh have been tearing it up and rocking the leagues. Effort is undeniably the 2nd best Zerg in the world, even beating Jaedong 2-0 in the GOM classic. Iris is in the semifinals of GOM and the RO8 of the MSL, even beating Bisu in the first game. Kwanro is in the RO8 of the MSL and has been extremely reliable, showing us how much his mid and late game play has improved, especially in the proleague. We're just calling it how it is. I don't see any CJ fans saying that we're better than everyone. I just see trolls flaming us and making up bullshit. Is it our fault that KHAN is full of slumping players?
I never said you guys were saying you guys were better than everyone, I'm just saying just because your team is doing hella well recently, you guys r disrespecting all over teams. Heres an example.
On July 24 2009 08:01 FragKrag wrote:Khan is shiet.
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On July 24 2009 13:28 MuffinDude wrote: Honestly, CJ is the most overrated team in my opinion. Sure they got depth. Sure they got great players. Sure skyhigh, effort, kwanro are playing great right now and much, savior, iris are great veteran players and movie does ridiculous snipes, but before winner's league began: effort sucked shit(overexageration, but he used to be nothing like he is now), skyhigh, kwanro, movie unreliable as fck, much, savior, iris been slumping for the longest time. It was since winner's league did CJ start to pick things up. This somehow make CJ fans superior over everyone.
And CJ players are one of the ugliest players in the PL imo. Don't flame me for this. Its just my opinion. Savior is alright, but effort looks like a snake to me.
So your argument is that, yeah they're good right now, but before winners league they sucked, and their players are ugly? The simple fact is they're very good right now and people are going to flock to the best teams (SKT, CJ, whoever). Bandwagoning is something that happens and will go on forever, so people just need to get over it, root for your team, and just ignore the the idiotic comments that the masses will always make, cause nothing you say is going to stop that tide from rushing in.
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On July 24 2009 16:16 p4NDemik wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2009 13:28 MuffinDude wrote: Honestly, CJ is the most overrated team in my opinion. Sure they got depth. Sure they got great players. Sure skyhigh, effort, kwanro are playing great right now and much, savior, iris are great veteran players and movie does ridiculous snipes, but before winner's league began: effort sucked shit(overexageration, but he used to be nothing like he is now), skyhigh, kwanro, movie unreliable as fck, much, savior, iris been slumping for the longest time. It was since winner's league did CJ start to pick things up. This somehow make CJ fans superior over everyone.
And CJ players are one of the ugliest players in the PL imo. Don't flame me for this. Its just my opinion. Savior is alright, but effort looks like a snake to me.
So your argument is that, yeah they're good right now, but before winners league they sucked, and their players are ugly? The simple fact is they're very good right now and people are going to flock to the best teams (SKT, CJ, whoever). Bandwagoning is something that happens and will go on forever, so people just need to get over it, root for your team, and just ignore the the idiotic comments that the masses will always make, cause nothing you say is going to stop that tide from rushing in.
Sorry if it sounded like dat, but I'm just saying don't disrespect khan, you can say something like how your team is awesome and shit, but saying khan players suk shit is a no. And I told you not to flame me for the ugly part. It was just an opinion =P
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On July 24 2009 16:19 randomKo_Orean wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2009 16:13 MuffinDude wrote: Also, the current khan lineup is more accomplished than cj's current line up.
IPXZerg would like a word with you.
Don't get me wrong, Savior is awesome. BUT... Note key word. Current. Mr. IPXZerg, while on the cj line up every so often, doesn't appear often enough. Few players on cj that i think are current: iris, skyhigh, effort, movie, kwanro.
For Khan it'll be stork, jangbi, fbh, great.
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You just know it's going to be a good day for CJ when CJ fans are going, "we have great players and a strong coach and a great team!" and Samsung fans are going, "yeah... but... you know... something might... happen... you know... And besides, CJ players are UGLY."
I think the games will be tough, but CJ will win day 1 handily. Day 2 is a totally different story.
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On July 24 2009 16:18 MuffinDude wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2009 16:16 p4NDemik wrote:On July 24 2009 13:28 MuffinDude wrote: Honestly, CJ is the most overrated team in my opinion. Sure they got depth. Sure they got great players. Sure skyhigh, effort, kwanro are playing great right now and much, savior, iris are great veteran players and movie does ridiculous snipes, but before winner's league began: effort sucked shit(overexageration, but he used to be nothing like he is now), skyhigh, kwanro, movie unreliable as fck, much, savior, iris been slumping for the longest time. It was since winner's league did CJ start to pick things up. This somehow make CJ fans superior over everyone.
And CJ players are one of the ugliest players in the PL imo. Don't flame me for this. Its just my opinion. Savior is alright, but effort looks like a snake to me.
So your argument is that, yeah they're good right now, but before winners league they sucked, and their players are ugly? The simple fact is they're very good right now and people are going to flock to the best teams (SKT, CJ, whoever). Bandwagoning is something that happens and will go on forever, so people just need to get over it, root for your team, and just ignore the the idiotic comments that the masses will always make, cause nothing you say is going to stop that tide from rushing in. Sorry if it sounded like dat, but I'm just saying don't disrespect khan, you can say something like how your team is awesome and shit, but saying khan players suk shit is a no. And I told you not to flame me for the ugly part. It was just an opinion =P
Gotta love it when people put up the "it's just an opinion" flame shield around a retarded statement.
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On July 24 2009 16:16 p4NDemik wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2009 13:28 MuffinDude wrote: Honestly, CJ is the most overrated team in my opinion. Sure they got depth. Sure they got great players. Sure skyhigh, effort, kwanro are playing great right now and much, savior, iris are great veteran players and movie does ridiculous snipes, but before winner's league began: effort sucked shit(overexageration, but he used to be nothing like he is now), skyhigh, kwanro, movie unreliable as fck, much, savior, iris been slumping for the longest time. It was since winner's league did CJ start to pick things up. This somehow make CJ fans superior over everyone.
And CJ players are one of the ugliest players in the PL imo. Don't flame me for this. Its just my opinion. Savior is alright, but effort looks like a snake to me.
So your argument is that, yeah they're good right now, but before winners league they sucked, and their players are ugly? The simple fact is they're very good right now and people are going to flock to the best teams (SKT, CJ, whoever). Bandwagoning is something that happens and will go on forever, so people just need to get over it, root for your team, and just ignore the the idiotic comments that the masses will always make, cause nothing you say is going to stop that tide from rushing in.
This man speaks the truth.
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