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Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7816 Posts
July 19 2009 11:04 GMT
#601
Not really inspiring from Flash. I know people are all "omg Flash so good!" but seriously, if you don't think Effort is going to win games like game 2 and 3 with those huge advantages July had, you're fooling yourselves.

I hope Flash keeps practicing, he's my favorite player and he really needs this GSL win over Effort to prove he can still take a league. Go go go Flash!
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
July 19 2009 11:04 GMT
#602
On July 19 2009 19:59 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2009 19:57 MrHoon wrote:
Flash fans: I think we're getting too excited here. I may be rabid flash fan but when someone loses against a 2base terran when you have 7 Gas running (3 on min), you have thrown your goddamn game away.


Honestly, how often does Flash have to beat people from the brink of death to get some cred? The dude does this on an alarming basis. He still has his schtick of pissing away tournaments unintelligently, but he's like the king of unreasonable comebacks.


If it were one of the top 5 or 6 zergs in ELO or KesPa rank in the position where July was after that 3 hatch all-in lings on Outsider, they would have capitalized and won right there with mutaling. However, July didn't capitalize, and as the game progressed he got outmacrod, outmultitasked. He lost focus. Game 3 wasn't about Flash winning, but more about July losing.
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knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
July 19 2009 11:04 GMT
#603
I think regarding defense/comebacks Game 2 of this series rivaled his ace game vs Firebathero and Game 1 vs Shuttle. However, Flash had no business winning that third game.

7 gas zerg vs 2 base Terran should be able to a-move mass ultras into the terran army and reinforce with mass ultras.
Batibot
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines348 Posts
July 19 2009 11:09 GMT
#604
I'm switching now to be a Jaedong fan. T_T
Jaedong has to be a Bonjwa. Tired of of rooting for July.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
July 19 2009 11:09 GMT
#605
On July 19 2009 20:04 kNyTTyM wrote:
I think regarding defense/comebacks Game 2 of this series rivaled his ace game vs Firebathero and Game 1 vs Shuttle. However, Flash had no business winning that third game.

7 gas zerg vs 2 base Terran should be able to a-move mass ultras into the terran army and reinforce with mass ultras.
Ultras cost a lot of minerals as well, which July didn't have.
He had his main (which didn't even have 1 drone per patch for a long, long time), his nat, and one backwards expansion (those mine out fast). In fact I wouldn't be surprised if Flash mined more minerals that game than July did.
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Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-19 11:11:21
July 19 2009 11:10 GMT
#606
god july played horrible

edit: On a side note, Flash is undefeated (!!!) in this tournament
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WrongEdge
Profile Joined May 2009
Singapore57 Posts
July 19 2009 11:12 GMT
#607
On July 19 2009 20:10 Sunyveil wrote:
god july played horrible

edit: On a side note, Flash is undefeated (!!!) in this tournament


Effort will do something about that in the Finals im sure =D
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
July 19 2009 11:14 GMT
#608
On July 19 2009 20:10 Sunyveil wrote:

edit: On a side note, Flash is undefeated (!!!) in this tournament


FUCK YEAH !!! + He didnt play his best mu even
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Batibot
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines348 Posts
July 19 2009 11:15 GMT
#609
Off-topic: Effort Yarnc ZvZ is awesome.
Jaedong has to be a Bonjwa. Tired of of rooting for July.
DM20
Profile Joined September 2008
Canada544 Posts
July 19 2009 11:17 GMT
#610
July had like 2k gas in the bank and really shitty ling count. He was obviously hurting for minerals
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 19 2009 11:20 GMT
#611
Yeah people are overhyping the 7 gas zerg thing: four of those gases had no mineral backing. What's he gonna do, mass 50 scourge?
Remember Violet.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
July 19 2009 11:22 GMT
#612
INTERVIEW IS UP!
dats racist
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
July 19 2009 11:26 GMT
#613
Not to mention that four of them were 2,5 k gasses and the fifth got shut down before he mined more than ~300 from it.
When he lost every single gas he had was depleted and he had close to zero mineral income.
Those doubble gasses allow you to throw up ridicoulus amounts of tech very fast, but they offer no long term support for it since they mine out so fast.
July's real mistake that game imo was not nydusing his other main base.
But yeah, he should have won ><, (like all the games *cry*)
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poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
July 19 2009 11:26 GMT
#614
On July 19 2009 20:15 Batibot323 wrote:
Off-topic: Effort Yarnc ZvZ is awesome.

wow, that was unrelated xD
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 19 2009 11:37 GMT
#615
On July 19 2009 20:04 R04R wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2009 19:59 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 19 2009 19:57 MrHoon wrote:
Flash fans: I think we're getting too excited here. I may be rabid flash fan but when someone loses against a 2base terran when you have 7 Gas running (3 on min), you have thrown your goddamn game away.


Honestly, how often does Flash have to beat people from the brink of death to get some cred? The dude does this on an alarming basis. He still has his schtick of pissing away tournaments unintelligently, but he's like the king of unreasonable comebacks.


If it were one of the top 5 or 6 zergs in ELO or KesPa rank in the position where July was after that 3 hatch all-in lings on Outsider, they would have capitalized and won right there with mutaling. However, July didn't capitalize, and as the game progressed he got outmacrod, outmultitasked. He lost focus. Game 3 wasn't about Flash winning, but more about July losing.


I like how you cut it off at 5 or 6, right before July, who is at seventh. :> I'm not saying a better zerg couldn't win in that position, but it's a discredit to Flash whenever he stages a massive comeback with brilliant play only to get snubbed with "god x threw that game away." The only, only, only reason the game is 'thrown away' is because Flash is good enough to still take the game.

I'll accept that Jaedong or Yarnc would've won that game, but people act like Flash never deserves his wins.
Remember Violet.
WrongEdge
Profile Joined May 2009
Singapore57 Posts
July 19 2009 11:39 GMT
#616
On July 19 2009 20:37 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2009 20:04 R04R wrote:
On July 19 2009 19:59 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 19 2009 19:57 MrHoon wrote:
Flash fans: I think we're getting too excited here. I may be rabid flash fan but when someone loses against a 2base terran when you have 7 Gas running (3 on min), you have thrown your goddamn game away.


Honestly, how often does Flash have to beat people from the brink of death to get some cred? The dude does this on an alarming basis. He still has his schtick of pissing away tournaments unintelligently, but he's like the king of unreasonable comebacks.


If it were one of the top 5 or 6 zergs in ELO or KesPa rank in the position where July was after that 3 hatch all-in lings on Outsider, they would have capitalized and won right there with mutaling. However, July didn't capitalize, and as the game progressed he got outmacrod, outmultitasked. He lost focus. Game 3 wasn't about Flash winning, but more about July losing.


I like how you cut it off at 5 or 6, right before July, who is at seventh. :> I'm not saying a better zerg couldn't win in that position, but it's a discredit to Flash whenever he stages a massive comeback with brilliant play only to get snubbed with "god x threw that game away." The only, only, only reason the game is 'thrown away' is because Flash is good enough to still take the game.

I'll accept that Jaedong or Yarnc would've won that game, but people act like Flash never deserves his wins.


Yeah, i remember the same shit happening over the FBH and Flash game, give credit where credit is due. Good to see flash slowly returning to form
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-19 11:50:44
July 19 2009 11:50 GMT
#617
sREKRUL backwards is the answer .. lack of them..
hatred outlives the hateful
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
July 19 2009 12:17 GMT
#618
On July 19 2009 19:50 FearDarkness wrote:
What happened to the aggressive July .

that's exactly why he lost i belive, too aggressive.. T_T
should've stayed back, do some gay things to wear flash down ://

Oh god waht a sad day
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darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
July 19 2009 12:20 GMT
#619
So, who else is looking forward to a relatively old school Iris vs July 3rd place match?

Funny how Flash vs Effort and Iris vs July would be about 100x more appealing than Flash vs Iris (Flash rolls easy) and Effort vs July (Effort rolls easy).
nozaro33
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan1819 Posts
July 19 2009 12:20 GMT
#620
On July 19 2009 20:39 WrongEdge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2009 20:37 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 19 2009 20:04 R04R wrote:
On July 19 2009 19:59 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 19 2009 19:57 MrHoon wrote:
Flash fans: I think we're getting too excited here. I may be rabid flash fan but when someone loses against a 2base terran when you have 7 Gas running (3 on min), you have thrown your goddamn game away.


Honestly, how often does Flash have to beat people from the brink of death to get some cred? The dude does this on an alarming basis. He still has his schtick of pissing away tournaments unintelligently, but he's like the king of unreasonable comebacks.


If it were one of the top 5 or 6 zergs in ELO or KesPa rank in the position where July was after that 3 hatch all-in lings on Outsider, they would have capitalized and won right there with mutaling. However, July didn't capitalize, and as the game progressed he got outmacrod, outmultitasked. He lost focus. Game 3 wasn't about Flash winning, but more about July losing.


I like how you cut it off at 5 or 6, right before July, who is at seventh. :> I'm not saying a better zerg couldn't win in that position, but it's a discredit to Flash whenever he stages a massive comeback with brilliant play only to get snubbed with "god x threw that game away." The only, only, only reason the game is 'thrown away' is because Flash is good enough to still take the game.

I'll accept that Jaedong or Yarnc would've won that game, but people act like Flash never deserves his wins.


Yeah, i remember the same shit happening over the FBH and Flash game, give credit where credit is due. Good to see flash slowly returning to form



So true. I mean, to actually get a comeback you have to depend on your opponent making mistakes. Flash managed to make ALL the right decisions to inch himself back into the game. Yes July threw game 3 away, but I'm sick and tired of hearing "omg XX so threw that game way Flash isn't S-class he sux" I sure don't see much people pissing off at Jaedong when he pulls off a insane comeback. (POV of a Biased Flash fan)
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