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[SPL] Playoffs - Hite Sparkyz vs CJ Entus Day 2 - Page 29

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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
July 19 2009 07:10 GMT
#561
On July 19 2009 16:07 Garnet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2009 16:07 ArvickHero wrote:
I say this is karma striking back at Hite in the face, since they did more BM than CJ in this series

Details pls!

CJ had 1 proxy CC, and 1 thumbs down ceremony as far as I know (both coming from Skyhigh lol)
Hite had 2 proxy CCs and 1 thumbs down ceremony I think

Im not sure really, I think theres more
Writerptrk
TwoStep
Profile Joined January 2009
United States294 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-19 07:11:08
July 19 2009 07:10 GMT
#562
On July 19 2009 16:09 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2009 16:07 TwoStep wrote:
On July 19 2009 16:06 Butigroove wrote:
On July 19 2009 16:04 Jaksiel wrote:
Effort was ahead for most of the game, I don't know why people are so surprised. He had Lings ready to defend by the time Yarnc's first lings were in his base, Spored up in plenty of time, and dealt a heavy economic blow to Yarnc.

Do you realize how hard it is to lose the build order rock paper scissors, and then win, versus an incredible ZvZer like Yarnc?

11pool is not a BO win vs 12 hatch.



The guy said 9 pool in the post so I think thats why everyone was like :'(

12 hatch can't keep his nat on a 2 player map vs 9 pool. Even overpool. wait. check vod tmw to confirm.
Arf
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
July 19 2009 07:10 GMT
#563
On July 19 2009 16:04 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2009 15:40 Holgerius wrote:
ZvZ should be banned from OSL/MSL-finals and Proleague ace games. Really. It needs to be epic, and ZvZ is never (at least not very often) epic.

??

This was an awesome and epic end to a nice series.

And Crunchums: Yarnc went overgass then pooled after so Effort was perfectly fine with 12hat. =p


Whoops, that's what I get for + Show Spoiler +
watching two matches at once (putting this in a spoiler is a spoiler though? : S)
brood war for life, brood war forever
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
July 19 2009 07:10 GMT
#564
On July 19 2009 16:09 FirstBorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2009 16:06 Butigroove wrote:
On July 19 2009 16:04 Jaksiel wrote:
Effort was ahead for most of the game, I don't know why people are so surprised. He had Lings ready to defend by the time Yarnc's first lings were in his base, Spored up in plenty of time, and dealt a heavy economic blow to Yarnc.

Do you realize how hard it is to lose the build order rock paper scissors, and then win, versus an incredible ZvZer like Yarnc?


I wouldn't say yarnc was ahead because of the build order, he killed one drone while Effort secured his natural. And Yarnc's zvz is far from incredible, he's pretty good, but not even close to JD or Effort.

Serious? He's won the majority of his encounters with EffOrt. He's beaten Jaedong. He's pretty good ZvZ.
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
TwoStep
Profile Joined January 2009
United States294 Posts
July 19 2009 07:11 GMT
#565
he's inconsistent
Arf
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
July 19 2009 07:11 GMT
#566
On July 19 2009 16:09 slvcadv wrote:
a slumping leta


...
BW forever || Thall
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 19 2009 07:12 GMT
#567
On July 19 2009 16:10 TwoStep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2009 16:09 Ace wrote:
On July 19 2009 16:07 TwoStep wrote:
On July 19 2009 16:06 Butigroove wrote:
On July 19 2009 16:04 Jaksiel wrote:
Effort was ahead for most of the game, I don't know why people are so surprised. He had Lings ready to defend by the time Yarnc's first lings were in his base, Spored up in plenty of time, and dealt a heavy economic blow to Yarnc.

Do you realize how hard it is to lose the build order rock paper scissors, and then win, versus an incredible ZvZer like Yarnc?

11pool is not a BO win vs 12 hatch.



The guy said 9 pool in the post so I think thats why everyone was like :'(

12 hatch can't keep his nat on a 2 player map vs 9 pool. Even overpool. wait. check vod tmw to confirm.



right...which is why I said oh nooo because Yarnc should have raped Effort's nat
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
July 19 2009 07:13 GMT
#568
On July 19 2009 16:10 Mystlord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2009 16:09 FirstBorn wrote:
On July 19 2009 16:06 Butigroove wrote:
On July 19 2009 16:04 Jaksiel wrote:
Effort was ahead for most of the game, I don't know why people are so surprised. He had Lings ready to defend by the time Yarnc's first lings were in his base, Spored up in plenty of time, and dealt a heavy economic blow to Yarnc.

Do you realize how hard it is to lose the build order rock paper scissors, and then win, versus an incredible ZvZer like Yarnc?


I wouldn't say yarnc was ahead because of the build order, he killed one drone while Effort secured his natural. And Yarnc's zvz is far from incredible, he's pretty good, but not even close to JD or Effort.

Serious? He's won the majority of his encounters with EffOrt. He's beaten Jaedong. He's pretty good ZvZ.


Add losing to Hyuk and Roro to that and you get a pretty inconsistent zvz, not enough to be called incredible.
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
July 19 2009 07:13 GMT
#569
yarnc pumped drones instead of fast six zerglings
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
July 19 2009 07:15 GMT
#570
On July 19 2009 16:10 zgl wrote:
As a neutral fan, I think the following format would make most sense:
Treat the two bo7 + possible super ace as a BO 15. In other words, the team with 8 wins advances.... so there should be one more ace

I agree with this. It's stupid that both teams won an equal amount of games, yet CJ go through. Retarded.

Leta.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-19 07:17:25
July 19 2009 07:16 GMT
#571
On July 19 2009 16:15 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2009 16:10 zgl wrote:
As a neutral fan, I think the following format would make most sense:
Treat the two bo7 + possible super ace as a BO 15. In other words, the team with 8 wins advances.... so there should be one more ace

I agree with this. It's stupid that both teams won an equal amount of games, yet CJ go through. Retarded.

Leta.


How boring would a BO15 be, seriously.

These super ace matches are INTENSE! Nothing more exciting than that. And yes, I would say that regardless of whether CJ or some other wins.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 19 2009 07:18 GMT
#572
sigh, people will bitch about any format.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
July 19 2009 07:19 GMT
#573
What a game. This new style of using spores and zerglings to counter 1 hatch muta is really interesting, yet so risky. YarnC's biggest mistake came when he tried to force his lings into Effort's main. Throwing away those lings caused him to lose drones, which made him use his mutalisk in a defensive manner when he should be pressuring EffOrt (if he didn't lose the sunken he probably would have stayed ahead). But yea, that was definitely a close match.
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TwoStep
Profile Joined January 2009
United States294 Posts
July 19 2009 07:19 GMT
#574
any new format
Arf
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
July 19 2009 07:20 GMT
#575
This format is great. Teams with a lot of depth get an opportunity to win two BO7s, and teams that are more star-heavy can aim for the split and the ace match. It's no gimme that a deep team can pull out both BO7s, and it's no gimme that a superstar can pull out an ace match (honestly each of the four remaining teams has at least one superstar who can hold his own against any other player in the world). It's really a great format.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
July 19 2009 07:23 GMT
#576
only the losing team complains about the format. See the STX vs Khan thread
Writerptrk
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
July 19 2009 07:24 GMT
#577
lol
first off gas before pool will not allow u to kill 12 hat, its virtually impossible. Even overpool can be defended, not talking about gas before pool

then firstborn said yellow isnt as good zvz as JD or effort, youre horribly wrong

spores/lings vs 1 hat muta isnt anything new, this is the only way to defend if you expanded, classic. Plenty of replays out there
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
July 19 2009 07:26 GMT
#578
Seriously how the hell is Effort already S-class, this is just crazy as all hell how fast he has become a dominant player.
the last wcs commissioner
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-19 07:27:40
July 19 2009 07:26 GMT
#579
i am pretty sure effort watched kwanro game and did 12 hat just because he seen same gas before pool and knew it would counter it
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
TealLurker
Profile Joined June 2008
United States791 Posts
July 19 2009 07:26 GMT
#580
On July 19 2009 16:23 ArvickHero wrote:
only the losing team complains about the format. See the STX vs Khan thread

If it were the other way around, the whiners wouldn't be saying anything.

The format reminds me of my friend's tennis league. It's basically two sets and if tied, it goes to a winner takes all single game. Netting the individual games of the two games and taking the total is just stupid talk.
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