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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20666 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-18 06:03:50
July 18 2009 06:02 GMT
#421
no, even when you go 5rax against muta you need turrets. Especially against progamer-tier muta micro.

edit: I realize he was committed to 5-rax before he scanned. So basically I'm asking if 5rax is autoloss against lurker expo openings at the pro level.
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-18 06:04:19
July 18 2009 06:03 GMT
#422
On July 18 2009 15:01 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2009 14:57 GTR wrote:
On July 18 2009 14:56 TwoToneTerran wrote:
It amuses me that this was once the man who destroyed not only Savior, but Jaedong with Battlecruisers and crazy, embarrassing play. This guy used to be #1 TvZ in the world, bar none.

Where's your rice, now, FBH?


tbh it was more him battling hwasin for the top spot of tvz
hwasin's tvz back in the day was impeccably good.


Eh, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on that one. I think FBH, when he was really raping, was better than Hwasin. But Hwasin definitely has the better history and was really good at that time.

He was an overall weaker Terran than Hwasin because Hwasin doesn't autolose to protoss, though.

oh how i miss those days. i personally would have taken fbh over hwasin any day, because the guy had monster TvT and TvZ. his TvP has always sucked, but Hwasin's TvP/TvT were both mediocre. fbh please step it up :/
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51689 Posts
July 18 2009 06:03 GMT
#423
On July 18 2009 15:01 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2009 14:57 GTR wrote:
On July 18 2009 14:56 TwoToneTerran wrote:
It amuses me that this was once the man who destroyed not only Savior, but Jaedong with Battlecruisers and crazy, embarrassing play. This guy used to be #1 TvZ in the world, bar none.

Where's your rice, now, FBH?


tbh it was more him battling hwasin for the top spot of tvz
hwasin's tvz back in the day was impeccably good.


Eh, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on that one. I think FBH, when he was really raping, was better than Hwasin. But Hwasin definitely has the better history and was really good at that time.

He was an overall weaker Terran than Hwasin because Hwasin doesn't autolose to protoss, though.


in korea, there was a saying that 'if you want a free win against hwasin, dt drop him'
thats how like every bad protoss managed to win against him, dt drop.
that said, anything against fbh was pretty much autowin pvt anyway.
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Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
July 18 2009 06:03 GMT
#424
On July 18 2009 14:55 Last Romantic wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong but opening 5rax against 4hatch lurker is pretty suicidal y/n.


he thought it was a muta opening

then he scanned, saw the drones coming out of the eggs, and was like 'oh crap' and threw down his factory
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
July 18 2009 06:04 GMT
#425
Time for Hwasin to destroy Juni.

Last time I saw Juni play, he lost in an embarrassingly bad fashion to I don't even remember who.
TranslatorBaa!
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 18 2009 06:04 GMT
#426
On July 18 2009 15:03 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2009 15:01 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 18 2009 14:57 GTR wrote:
On July 18 2009 14:56 TwoToneTerran wrote:
It amuses me that this was once the man who destroyed not only Savior, but Jaedong with Battlecruisers and crazy, embarrassing play. This guy used to be #1 TvZ in the world, bar none.

Where's your rice, now, FBH?


tbh it was more him battling hwasin for the top spot of tvz
hwasin's tvz back in the day was impeccably good.


Eh, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on that one. I think FBH, when he was really raping, was better than Hwasin. But Hwasin definitely has the better history and was really good at that time.

He was an overall weaker Terran than Hwasin because Hwasin doesn't autolose to protoss, though.


in korea, there was a saying that 'if you want a free win against hwasin, dt drop him'
thats how like every bad protoss managed to win against him, dt drop.
that said, anything against fbh was pretty much autowin pvt anyway.

Well being bad against one unit isn't nearly as bad as being bad against the entire race. :3
Remember Violet.
TwoStep
Profile Joined January 2009
United States294 Posts
July 18 2009 06:04 GMT
#427
At least it was bio. Too sad that Firebadhero didn't put up too much of a fight.
Arf
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-18 06:12:58
July 18 2009 06:05 GMT
#428
Did fbh delay his tech? Seemed to me like he just used the extra money from turrets for the 5 rax.

Edit: my bad I just tuned in so I didn't realize he went 5 rax before fact.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
July 18 2009 06:05 GMT
#429
I just looked at Juni's ZvT record, and I lol'd.
TranslatorBaa!
Jefferson
Profile Joined July 2009
93 Posts
July 18 2009 06:06 GMT
#430
On July 18 2009 15:05 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
I just looked at Juni's ZvT record, and I lol'd.


same here^^
what a badass
Refrige
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States179 Posts
July 18 2009 06:06 GMT
#431
On July 18 2009 15:05 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
I just looked at Juni's ZvT record, and I lol'd.


all the more reason for an all-in
strongwind
Profile Joined July 2007
United States862 Posts
July 18 2009 06:07 GMT
#432
On July 18 2009 15:05 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
I just looked at Juni's ZvT record, and I lol'd.

check out Miracle's TvP record next
Taek Bang Fighting!
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
July 18 2009 06:07 GMT
#433
On July 18 2009 15:05 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
I just looked at Juni's ZvT record, and I lol'd.

vT: 2-11 (15.38%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L L L L L W L L L

LOL
POGGERS
TwoStep
Profile Joined January 2009
United States294 Posts
July 18 2009 06:09 GMT
#434
He was the guy who almost took out flash in GSL S1. lol
Arf
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-18 06:10:29
July 18 2009 06:09 GMT
#435
On July 18 2009 15:03 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2009 15:01 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 18 2009 14:57 GTR wrote:
On July 18 2009 14:56 TwoToneTerran wrote:
It amuses me that this was once the man who destroyed not only Savior, but Jaedong with Battlecruisers and crazy, embarrassing play. This guy used to be #1 TvZ in the world, bar none.

Where's your rice, now, FBH?


tbh it was more him battling hwasin for the top spot of tvz
hwasin's tvz back in the day was impeccably good.


Eh, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on that one. I think FBH, when he was really raping, was better than Hwasin. But Hwasin definitely has the better history and was really good at that time.

He was an overall weaker Terran than Hwasin because Hwasin doesn't autolose to protoss, though.

oh how i miss those days. i personally would have taken fbh over hwasin any day, because the guy had monster TvT and TvZ. his TvP has always sucked, but Hwasin's TvP/TvT were both mediocre. fbh please step it up :/
oh come on, in 2007 hwasin's tvt/tvp was pretty damn sick, and his tvt took down a lot of big names in 2008 :\
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
Mah Buckit!
Profile Joined April 2009
Finland474 Posts
July 18 2009 06:10 GMT
#436
On July 18 2009 14:56 [Fin]Vittu wrote:
lol @ january face palm pic.

btw does anyone else notice that calm and last kinda look very similar?


Calm is the little brother. And Last is going to retire?
Or is this all imagination?
Starcraft? Epic Grimness.
FearDarkness
Profile Joined February 2009
United States519 Posts
July 18 2009 06:10 GMT
#437
No games are recommended worthy yet?
Can't spell Voidrays without Idra
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
July 18 2009 06:10 GMT
#438
On July 18 2009 15:10 Mah Buckit! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2009 14:56 [Fin]Vittu wrote:
lol @ january face palm pic.

btw does anyone else notice that calm and last kinda look very similar?


Calm is the little brother. And Last is going to retire?
Or is this all imagination?
tosky from lecaf is calms older brother and is retiring.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
July 18 2009 06:11 GMT
#439
On July 18 2009 15:07 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2009 15:05 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
I just looked at Juni's ZvT record, and I lol'd.

vT: 2-11 (15.38%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L L L L L W L L L

LOL

Hey it's not that bad. He beat .... uh... koala? Who is koala?
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-18 06:14:24
July 18 2009 06:11 GMT
#440
On July 18 2009 15:10 Mah Buckit! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2009 14:56 [Fin]Vittu wrote:
lol @ january face palm pic.

btw does anyone else notice that calm and last kinda look very similar?


Calm is the little brother. And Last is going to retire?
Or is this all imagination?


Calm is Oversky's younger brother, not Last's.

Edit: Meant ToSky, Hwaseung's Zerg, sorry
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