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Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-10 11:49:55
July 10 2009 05:05 GMT
#1
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10 July 2009, 18:30 KST, 2:30 PST, 11:30 CET, Channel OnGameNet


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(Z)EffOrt < Holy World SE > (T)Flash

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(P)Stork < Outsider > (T)fantasy

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(T)go.go < Heartbreak Ridge > (T)Hwasin

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(T)Canata < Return of the King > (Z)by.hero


Statistics and Odds and Ends
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The numbers inside parenthesis represent the player's record for the last 5 games played against the opponent's race in (W-L) format.
The numbers between the above statistic represent the player's head to head record.

(Z)EffOrt (5-0) 1 - 3 (1-4) (T)Flash

Discounting single losses in Bo3, EffOrt is basically undefeated in ZvT this year. Flash on the other hand has dropped his last 4 TvZ games, not to mention a loss to Kwanro last night in the MSL. Despite the 1-3 head to head statistic, the 3 losses that EffOrt took were prior to the start of this year. This game will also be the first game between top S level Korean progamers on this map. The original Holy World had a 5-4 record TvZ.

Both EffOrt and Flash played a game against the opposing race yesterday, so they have definitely been practicing all week for this exact match up.

EffOrt must win this game to have a chance to advance to the Ro8. If he wins, there will be a 3 way tiebreak between Jaedong, EffOrt, and YellOw[ArnC] for the two spots to the Ro8. Flash is out no matter what.

(P)Stork (3-2) 7-3 (4-1) (T)fantasy

After fantasy lost 2-3 to Stork in the Incruit 2008 OSL finals, these two haven't met until now. Stork's recent PvT has been a mixed bag, dropping games against MVP and Shine, but winning against Flash, Sea, and Lomo. However, Stork did not play in Khan's lineup for Proleague this week, no doubt to let him prepare for this match. fantasy, on the other hand, has been doing spectacularly against Protoss lately, only dropping a game to Bisu last night due to ineffective drop play. fantasy's drop play has a good chance of working on Outsider though.

If fantasy wins this, he and type-b will advance. If Stork wins this, it will be a 3 way tie between fantasy, type-b, and Stork for the two spots to the Ro8.

(T)go.go (3-2) 0-2 (3-2) (T)Hwasin

Despite his 3-2 stats, go.go lost his two most recent TvTs. Then again, they were against Flash and fantasy. go.go's schedule this week has also been busy, with games against Guemchi and SaviOr. Hwasin hasn't played a game since the 1st of July, 10 days ago, so he probably has been practicing quite a bit. He's posted wins against Lomo, HiyA, and Baby, and posting losses against FBH and Light, who are both exceptional TvT players.

If go.go wins, he and ZerO will advance to the Ro8 out of this group and Bisu will be eliminated (Now no more of this please T_T). If Hwasin wins, it will be a 3 way tie between go.go, Hwasin, and Bisu for the 2nd spot out of this group.

(T)Canata (4-1) 1-0 (1-4) (Z)by.hero

Canata has been posting wins against semi-decent Zergs lately, knocking SaviOr out of the MSL and beating Kwanro and HoGiL (for whatever beating HoGiL is worth). hero's last win against Terran was against SaiR in the GOM Classic 3, but he did knock Hwasin out of the Batoo OSL, so he does have potential. However, that potential hasn't been showing itself this season with losses against PianO, go.go, Light, and Leta.

Another important factor is that Canata hasn't had too much time to practice for this match since he just played a match yesterday against PianO and won. However, he did do a fairly cheesey build, so he might have diverted much of his practice for the OSL. hero hasn't played a game since the third.

The map, Return of the King, is fairly balanced with a slight edge towards Terran, but hero did knock Hwasin out of the OSL on this map with impressive 2 hatch mutalisk play.

Whoever wins this game advances with Leta to the Ro8 so this game is a must win for both players.


My Predictions
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(Z)EffOrt < Holy World SE > (T)Flash

My bet is on Flash playing too greedy again and EffOrt taking advantage of it... again. This recent shift of Flash back to these super greedy builds reminds me of his 14 CC period.

(P)Stork < Outsider > (T)fantasy

The map favors fantasy's style, and I bet he's out for revenge for his 2-3 loss against Stork in last year's OSL. Plus, he has BeSt to practice against (Bisu is out since he's playing him in the MSL). Who does Stork have? firebathero?

(T)go.go < Heartbreak Ridge > (T)Hwasin

Followers of the Church of go.go! Your time is nigh. Let Hwasin smash your frail religion into many pieces! His TvT is top notch, and his might cannot be matched! Plus he has a bigger fanclub than the Church of go.go has followers. go.go has been playing like crap recently anyway. 1-4 in his last 5 games, and 3-7 in his last 10.

(T)Canata < Return of the King > (Z)by.hero

I'm starting to like Canata more now because he's starting to think about how people don't want to watch 1 hour long TvTs (see the interview thread on his win last night in the MSL). Return of the King is also a suitable map for mech, and since he isn't greedy like Flash, I think he'll do fine.


Results
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(Z)EffOrt < Holy World SE > (T)Flash

EffOrt is out of the OSL, Jaedong and YellOw[ArnC] advance to the Ro8!
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EffOrt goes 12 Hatchery and Flash goes for a proxy 2 Rax in the middle of the map. EffOrt does a fail flank and loses all his lings and a ton of drones. He then proceeds to lose his natural hatchery. From here, it's basically over.


(P)Stork < Outsider > (T)fantasy

fantasy and type-b advance to the Ro8!
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I can't summarize this game. It has to be watched.


(T)go.go < Heartbreak Ridge > (T)Hwasin

ZerO and go.go advance to the Ro8! Bisu is out of the OSL!
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go.go goes 2 Factory vulture rush while Hwasin goes 1 Factory CC. go.go runs over Hwasin's vultures and snipes a ton of SCVs. Hwasin builds a lot of gollies to compensate (probably for wraiths), and almost comes back into the game. He uses 5 goliaths to counter go.go's main while go.go attacks Hwasin's natural with vultures and 2 tanks. Hwasin snipes a lot of SCVs, but has no troops to push back go.go's attack force. He doesn't lift his CC and loses it. From here, go.go has the superior economy and runs Hwasin over with superior numbers


(T)Canata < Return of the King > (Z)by.hero

Leta and Canata advance to the Ro8!
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by.hero goes for a 12 Hatch while Canata goes for a 14 CC. hero goes 3 Hatch Mutas and tries to harass Canata, but his third is delayed by a vulture and he is unable to do any damage with his Mutalisks. As a result, Canata has a crazy 14 CC boosted economy to fight against hero's paltry 2 base with the third barely coming online. Canata goes for PURE goliaths and pushes out towards hero's third. He loses the battle, but delays mining at hero's third and kills all of hero's army. Canata already has another force macroed up and pushes out. Again with no tanks. He absolutely demolishes hero's army and hero ggs.



Recommended Games
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(T)fantasy vs (P)Stork
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This game is a MUST watch for everyone. Insane dropship play by BOTH players on Outsider. That's right, more speed shuttle awesomeness! fantasy gets into a bit of trouble at the beginning, but he starts doing drop play. Is it enough? Game of the night at the LEAST.


Ro8 Brackets! (THANKS TO GTR!)
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7/24 18:30KST

A: Yarnc vs (T)(T)go.go on Holy World SE
B: (T)(T)Leta vs (Z)(Z)type-b on Outsider
C: (T)(T)fantasy vs (T)(T)Canata on Heartbreak Ridge
D: (Z)(Z)Jaedong vs (Z)(Z)ZerO on Return of the King



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Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
July 10 2009 05:07 GMT
#2
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Poll: Game of the Night?
(Vote): EffOrt vs. Flash
(Vote): Stork vs. Fantasy
(Vote): go.go vs. Hwasin
(Vote): Canata vs. by.hero

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Poll: Who will win?
(Vote): EffOrt
(Vote): Flash

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Poll: Who will win?
(Vote): Stork
(Vote): fantasy

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Poll: Who will win?
(Vote): go.go
(Vote): Hwasin

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Poll: Who will win?
(Vote): Canata
(Vote): by.hero
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
July 10 2009 05:10 GMT
#3
Go Flash go! I'm going to have to agree with all your predictions except by.hero vs Canata because I like zergs the best.
Jaedong
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2227 Posts
July 10 2009 05:19 GMT
#4
come on man, Flash has to beat a zerg at least once in a year...
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
July 10 2009 05:21 GMT
#5
Flash is done for, I don't think he'll have prepared too much for a game that doesn't matter. But on the other hand, he may win just to infuriate me.
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
July 10 2009 05:25 GMT
#6
Wait, I thought Effort / Flash already got kicked out of the group by Yarnc and JD?
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
calvinL
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada416 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-10 05:29:18
July 10 2009 05:28 GMT
#7
Well, Flash's game doesn't even matter to him since there is no way for him to advance. Still hoping for a Flash win though.

edit: if Effort wins there will be a 3 way tiebreaker between the 3 zergs (i think)
structuralinertia
Profile Joined June 2009
Australia1426 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-10 05:29:09
July 10 2009 05:28 GMT
#8
"Followers of the Church of go.go! Your time is nigh. Let Hwasin smash your frail religion into many pieces!"

repent or gogo will smite thee for thy lack of faith!

Excellent analysis, although I dont think we can ever count out stork's godly 68% PvT, Im pretty sure he will once again school fantasy despite the latter's excellence.
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
July 10 2009 05:39 GMT
#9
On July 10 2009 14:25 AzureEye wrote:
Wait, I thought Effort / Flash already got kicked out of the group by Yarnc and JD?

effort beat yarnc, so if he wins here he will force a tiebreaker.

i don't see any reason for flash to win this game tonight. there goes my liquibet
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
July 10 2009 05:43 GMT
#10
Oops, you're right skronch . And I said Ro16 too, FIXED.
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Murdoink
Profile Joined March 2009
Chile1219 Posts
July 10 2009 05:53 GMT
#11
PLEASE WIN HWASIN
SNARF HWAITING
Alsar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States130 Posts
July 10 2009 06:05 GMT
#12
by.heroooo<3 I believe
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
July 10 2009 06:12 GMT
#13
For once in my life I will cheer for Hwasin with all my heart!

As for the OP prediction I have to say that Stork have never had any strong Terrans on his team to practice with, but that have never stopped him from having the best PvT in progaming for years now and I expect that game to be awesome!
God Hates a Coward
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
July 10 2009 06:16 GMT
#14
Stork is 4-0 on outsider. LETS GO STORK!
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
July 10 2009 06:32 GMT
#15
On July 10 2009 15:16 MuffinDude wrote:
Stork is 4-0 on outsider. LETS GO STORK!

And fantasy is 6-0 ... still - LETS GO STORK!
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Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
July 10 2009 06:33 GMT
#16
Oystein: Mental lapse :O

And MuffinDude, fantasy is 6-0 on Outsider. Suck it. 3-0 against Toss. Yeah. Although they're not exactly the best Toss players out there :X
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66159 Posts
July 10 2009 06:34 GMT
#17
Ah, forgot this was today lol

I'll be streaming I guess
POGGERS
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66159 Posts
July 10 2009 06:37 GMT
#18
My predictions:

(Z)EffOrt < (T)Flash
(P)Stork < (T)fantasy
(T)go.go < (T)Hwasin
(T)Canata > (Z)by.hero
POGGERS
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
July 10 2009 06:37 GMT
#19
flash should throw his game
stork win so fantasy and stork can advance
hwasin win so bisu can advance
canata win because skt <3
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
July 10 2009 06:38 GMT
#20
your post is severely lacking in GO HWASIN konadora.

ahem.

GO HWASIN!
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