• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:20
CEST 21:20
KST 04:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202543Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments4[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced62
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread Official Ladder Map Pool Update (April 28, 2025) The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up Clem Interview: "PvT is a bit insane right now"
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments WardiTV Mondays RSL Season 2 Qualifier Links and Dates StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Global Tourney for College Students in September
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion StarCraft player reflex TE scores Where is technical support? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ StarCon Philadelphia
Tourneys
KCM 2025 Season 3 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 700 users

[GOM] Ro16, Day 2 - Page 16

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 14 15 16 17 18 34 Next All
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
June 14 2009 10:13 GMT
#301
--- Nuked ---
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
June 14 2009 10:13 GMT
#302
On June 14 2009 19:11 Piste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2009 19:08 anch wrote:
g to the g
who would hae thought flash cheesing his own teammate


yea that's sick :d
Hoejja propably is going to kick his ass irl judging by the smirk on his face after the game^^
Based solely on that smile after the game, Hoejja is sleeping with Mrs. Flash :D
BW fighting!
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
June 14 2009 10:13 GMT
#303
Yo fakesteve update liquibet so we can see how one-sided the vote was.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
June 14 2009 10:13 GMT
#304
On June 14 2009 19:12 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
that was before fantasy started appearing in leagues
answers might be different now

After watching Jangbi vs Fantasy i actually agree with fakesteve. That game was one of the sickest game i ever saw recently.

Seriously. JB should have had him easy with that reaver and unsieged tank micro beat his ass.

I still hate fantasy though.
iPF[Div]
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain572 Posts
June 14 2009 10:14 GMT
#305
these commercials are longer than the games :[
Since ma jae yoon and jin young soo stabbed me in the fucking back, i've got no one to rep here.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 14 2009 10:14 GMT
#306
On June 14 2009 19:08 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2009 19:07 SuperArc wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:06 Piste wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:04 samachking wrote:
Thats why Flash is the best Terran to ever play the game and thats why noone argues the fact outside of TL.

fantasy is better. love em both tho.


fantasy loses to mediocre players...



fantasy is still unrefined

in terms of raw talent is he superior to flash but that's an abstract concept, flash is much more consistent

fantasy is the best terran in the world but it kinda takes the ability to ignore results altogether to think that way hahah

Whatt? In terms of raw talent Flash is definitely the better player. He's got the potential to be so much more than Fantasy or he himself has ever been.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
June 14 2009 10:15 GMT
#307
On June 14 2009 19:14 iPF[Div] wrote:
these commercials are longer than the games :[


Well, it's highly unlikely that Hwasin will bunker rush. So maybe there's hope, although Shuttle can be a cheesy bastard.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
June 14 2009 10:15 GMT
#308
On June 14 2009 19:11 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2009 19:10 Orbifold wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:08 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:07 SuperArc wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:06 Piste wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:04 samachking wrote:
Thats why Flash is the best Terran to ever play the game and thats why noone argues the fact outside of TL.

fantasy is better. love em both tho.


fantasy loses to mediocre players...



fantasy is still unrefined

in terms of raw talent is he superior to flash but that's an abstract concept, flash is much more consistent

fantasy is the best terran in the world but it kinda takes the ability to ignore results altogether to think that way hahah


An ability we know you have in spades


hahaha damn right

Sea[Shield] best player on earth


+ Show Spoiler +
so good that he loses his MSL matches just to make it harder on himself to advance
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
June 14 2009 10:15 GMT
#309
Way to fall into flame bait kids
Enjoy the commercials instead!
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
June 14 2009 10:15 GMT
#310
--- Nuked ---
stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
June 14 2009 10:15 GMT
#311
On June 14 2009 19:13 538 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2009 19:11 Piste wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:08 anch wrote:
g to the g
who would hae thought flash cheesing his own teammate


yea that's sick :d
Hoejja propably is going to kick his ass irl judging by the smirk on his face after the game^^
Based solely on that smile after the game, Hoejja is sleeping with Mrs. Flash :D


hahaha, definitely an interesting theory. + Show Spoiler +
Anyway Flash played pretty amazingly, but I thought HoeJJa played pretty well too (the first game). Very entertaining. Second game was pretty rape though obviously : )
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
June 14 2009 10:15 GMT
#312
On June 14 2009 19:10 bearbuddy wrote:
To me, Flash = pure mechanics and Fantasy = pure creativity. It's kinda like seeing Boxer and Oov.


I agree

Boxer=pure mechanics. mindless micro how boring

oov=pure creativity. What a genius.

On a more serious note anyone who thinks Flash wins because of mechanics doesn't actually pay attention to his games. His defense, builds, game sense, and decisionmaking are his strengths; mechanics are probably the weakest aspect of his play.

On topic Flash's use of fast range goliaths to snipe overlords so that Hoejja couldnt clear mines was a really great idea. Hoejja definitely had to allin attack there (he could not have sat back and expanded whatsoever) and I thought Flash would have to get tanks and might have been in danger, but nope!

Liquipedia
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
June 14 2009 10:16 GMT
#313
On June 14 2009 19:13 Musoeun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2009 19:11 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:10 SuperArc wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:08 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:07 SuperArc wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:06 Piste wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:04 samachking wrote:
Thats why Flash is the best Terran to ever play the game and thats why noone argues the fact outside of TL.

fantasy is better. love em both tho.


fantasy loses to mediocre players...



fantasy is still unrefined

in terms of raw talent is he superior to flash but that's an abstract concept, flash is much more consistent

fantasy is the best terran in the world but it kinda takes the ability to ignore results altogether to think that way hahah


raw talent fantasy is better? lol

Flash is 16 and is better than fantasy. Who has more raw talent?


thats a dumb way to look at it

i think the fact that you think proleague games mean anything real is pretty funny


Well, okay (maybe...), but how many titles does fantasy have?

Yeah.

he said raw talent

not titles

Titles are overrated in the sense that people can get a easy bracket like casy and july.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
OSWater
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1343 Posts
June 14 2009 10:16 GMT
#314
Guys, quit talking as if go.go ISNT the best terran ever.
It's a bummer.
Douglas is the king of the mountain, and the mountain is great
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 14 2009 10:16 GMT
#315
On June 14 2009 19:13 Musoeun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2009 19:11 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:10 SuperArc wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:08 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:07 SuperArc wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:06 Piste wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:04 samachking wrote:
Thats why Flash is the best Terran to ever play the game and thats why noone argues the fact outside of TL.

fantasy is better. love em both tho.


fantasy loses to mediocre players...



fantasy is still unrefined

in terms of raw talent is he superior to flash but that's an abstract concept, flash is much more consistent

fantasy is the best terran in the world but it kinda takes the ability to ignore results altogether to think that way hahah


raw talent fantasy is better? lol

Flash is 16 and is better than fantasy. Who has more raw talent?


thats a dumb way to look at it

i think the fact that you think proleague games mean anything real is pretty funny


Well, okay (maybe...), but how many titles does fantasy have?

Yeah.


thats also a dumb way to look at it. is nada the current best player on earth?
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-14 10:19:14
June 14 2009 10:16 GMT
#316
...aaaand we're back at the gomtv classic season 3 and boy did we just see a fuck-ton of commercials.

EDIT:
On June 14 2009 19:15 benjammin wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
so good that he loses his MSL matches just to make it harder on himself to advance

That hurt me so bad to watch. I suppose the winning build was really solid, but still, the play was sad.
Sativader
Profile Joined May 2009
33 Posts
June 14 2009 10:18 GMT
#317
Tasteless & SDM vs. Jeadong & FireBatHero on Python?


gogogogogogogogogogo



+ Show Spoiler +
game time Shuttle FTW!
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. - Carl Sagan aka Qui-Gon Jinn
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
June 14 2009 10:18 GMT
#318
On June 14 2009 19:10 bearbuddy wrote:
To me, Flash = pure mechanics and Fantasy = pure creativity. It's kinda like seeing Boxer and Oov.


You know the irony is, it seems that Oov is the one coming up with all the builds now.

Calling Flash pure mechanics sells him short a lot. He could use more harass in his play but he has been as responsible as anyone for defining standard Terran play over the past year. The exception, of course, is Fantasy's mech.

The upcoming MSL and OSL are really huge for Flash. He basically needs to make a really deep run in at least one, if not both leagues, and doing so will require him to redefine his play somewhat. If he manages to do that (and it's not inconceivable), he could potentially take yet another leap in skill. It's always felt like Flash hasn't quite fulfilled his potential, but if he doesn't get somewhere in this Starleague season, then maybe he really has peaked.
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
June 14 2009 10:18 GMT
#319
--- Nuked ---
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 14 2009 10:18 GMT
#320
On June 14 2009 19:13 motbob wrote:
Yo fakesteve update liquibet so we can see how one-sided the vote was.


ok
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Prev 1 14 15 16 17 18 34 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 40m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 297
BRAT_OK 140
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3028
EffOrt 819
Larva 602
Mini 590
Horang2 576
ggaemo 229
Barracks 205
Dewaltoss 164
sSak 65
sas.Sziky 21
[ Show more ]
JulyZerg 11
Stormgate
UpATreeSC125
JuggernautJason48
Dota 2
qojqva3802
Dendi1445
capcasts88
Counter-Strike
flusha377
Stewie2K78
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu504
KnowMe149
Other Games
tarik_tv3915
fl0m2030
Beastyqt660
Hui .142
Trikslyr49
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV145
StarCraft 2
angryscii 28
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta82
• LUISG 17
• Reevou 6
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 24
• 80smullet 6
• Michael_bg 4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21296
• WagamamaTV641
League of Legends
• TFBlade1027
Other Games
• imaqtpie1463
• Shiphtur399
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
5h 40m
LiuLi Cup
15h 40m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
19h 40m
RSL Revival
1d 6h
RSL Revival
1d 14h
SC Evo League
1d 16h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 19h
CSO Cup
1d 20h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
[ Show More ]
Wardi Open
3 days
RotterdaM Event
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.