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boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
June 14 2009 10:13 GMT
#301
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538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
June 14 2009 10:13 GMT
#302
On June 14 2009 19:11 Piste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2009 19:08 anch wrote:
g to the g
who would hae thought flash cheesing his own teammate


yea that's sick :d
Hoejja propably is going to kick his ass irl judging by the smirk on his face after the game^^
Based solely on that smile after the game, Hoejja is sleeping with Mrs. Flash :D
BW fighting!
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
June 14 2009 10:13 GMT
#303
Yo fakesteve update liquibet so we can see how one-sided the vote was.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
June 14 2009 10:13 GMT
#304
On June 14 2009 19:12 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
that was before fantasy started appearing in leagues
answers might be different now

After watching Jangbi vs Fantasy i actually agree with fakesteve. That game was one of the sickest game i ever saw recently.

Seriously. JB should have had him easy with that reaver and unsieged tank micro beat his ass.

I still hate fantasy though.
iPF[Div]
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain572 Posts
June 14 2009 10:14 GMT
#305
these commercials are longer than the games :[
Since ma jae yoon and jin young soo stabbed me in the fucking back, i've got no one to rep here.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 14 2009 10:14 GMT
#306
On June 14 2009 19:08 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2009 19:07 SuperArc wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:06 Piste wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:04 samachking wrote:
Thats why Flash is the best Terran to ever play the game and thats why noone argues the fact outside of TL.

fantasy is better. love em both tho.


fantasy loses to mediocre players...



fantasy is still unrefined

in terms of raw talent is he superior to flash but that's an abstract concept, flash is much more consistent

fantasy is the best terran in the world but it kinda takes the ability to ignore results altogether to think that way hahah

Whatt? In terms of raw talent Flash is definitely the better player. He's got the potential to be so much more than Fantasy or he himself has ever been.
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Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
June 14 2009 10:15 GMT
#307
On June 14 2009 19:14 iPF[Div] wrote:
these commercials are longer than the games :[


Well, it's highly unlikely that Hwasin will bunker rush. So maybe there's hope, although Shuttle can be a cheesy bastard.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
June 14 2009 10:15 GMT
#308
On June 14 2009 19:11 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2009 19:10 Orbifold wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:08 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:07 SuperArc wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:06 Piste wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:04 samachking wrote:
Thats why Flash is the best Terran to ever play the game and thats why noone argues the fact outside of TL.

fantasy is better. love em both tho.


fantasy loses to mediocre players...



fantasy is still unrefined

in terms of raw talent is he superior to flash but that's an abstract concept, flash is much more consistent

fantasy is the best terran in the world but it kinda takes the ability to ignore results altogether to think that way hahah


An ability we know you have in spades


hahaha damn right

Sea[Shield] best player on earth


+ Show Spoiler +
so good that he loses his MSL matches just to make it harder on himself to advance
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
June 14 2009 10:15 GMT
#309
Way to fall into flame bait kids
Enjoy the commercials instead!
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
June 14 2009 10:15 GMT
#310
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stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
June 14 2009 10:15 GMT
#311
On June 14 2009 19:13 538 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2009 19:11 Piste wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:08 anch wrote:
g to the g
who would hae thought flash cheesing his own teammate


yea that's sick :d
Hoejja propably is going to kick his ass irl judging by the smirk on his face after the game^^
Based solely on that smile after the game, Hoejja is sleeping with Mrs. Flash :D


hahaha, definitely an interesting theory. + Show Spoiler +
Anyway Flash played pretty amazingly, but I thought HoeJJa played pretty well too (the first game). Very entertaining. Second game was pretty rape though obviously : )
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
June 14 2009 10:15 GMT
#312
On June 14 2009 19:10 bearbuddy wrote:
To me, Flash = pure mechanics and Fantasy = pure creativity. It's kinda like seeing Boxer and Oov.


I agree

Boxer=pure mechanics. mindless micro how boring

oov=pure creativity. What a genius.

On a more serious note anyone who thinks Flash wins because of mechanics doesn't actually pay attention to his games. His defense, builds, game sense, and decisionmaking are his strengths; mechanics are probably the weakest aspect of his play.

On topic Flash's use of fast range goliaths to snipe overlords so that Hoejja couldnt clear mines was a really great idea. Hoejja definitely had to allin attack there (he could not have sat back and expanded whatsoever) and I thought Flash would have to get tanks and might have been in danger, but nope!

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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17731 Posts
June 14 2009 10:16 GMT
#313
On June 14 2009 19:13 Musoeun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2009 19:11 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:10 SuperArc wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:08 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:07 SuperArc wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:06 Piste wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:04 samachking wrote:
Thats why Flash is the best Terran to ever play the game and thats why noone argues the fact outside of TL.

fantasy is better. love em both tho.


fantasy loses to mediocre players...



fantasy is still unrefined

in terms of raw talent is he superior to flash but that's an abstract concept, flash is much more consistent

fantasy is the best terran in the world but it kinda takes the ability to ignore results altogether to think that way hahah


raw talent fantasy is better? lol

Flash is 16 and is better than fantasy. Who has more raw talent?


thats a dumb way to look at it

i think the fact that you think proleague games mean anything real is pretty funny


Well, okay (maybe...), but how many titles does fantasy have?

Yeah.

he said raw talent

not titles

Titles are overrated in the sense that people can get a easy bracket like casy and july.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
OSWater
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1343 Posts
June 14 2009 10:16 GMT
#314
Guys, quit talking as if go.go ISNT the best terran ever.
It's a bummer.
Douglas is the king of the mountain, and the mountain is great
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 14 2009 10:16 GMT
#315
On June 14 2009 19:13 Musoeun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2009 19:11 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:10 SuperArc wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:08 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:07 SuperArc wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:06 Piste wrote:
On June 14 2009 19:04 samachking wrote:
Thats why Flash is the best Terran to ever play the game and thats why noone argues the fact outside of TL.

fantasy is better. love em both tho.


fantasy loses to mediocre players...



fantasy is still unrefined

in terms of raw talent is he superior to flash but that's an abstract concept, flash is much more consistent

fantasy is the best terran in the world but it kinda takes the ability to ignore results altogether to think that way hahah


raw talent fantasy is better? lol

Flash is 16 and is better than fantasy. Who has more raw talent?


thats a dumb way to look at it

i think the fact that you think proleague games mean anything real is pretty funny


Well, okay (maybe...), but how many titles does fantasy have?

Yeah.


thats also a dumb way to look at it. is nada the current best player on earth?
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-14 10:19:14
June 14 2009 10:16 GMT
#316
...aaaand we're back at the gomtv classic season 3 and boy did we just see a fuck-ton of commercials.

EDIT:
On June 14 2009 19:15 benjammin wrote:
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so good that he loses his MSL matches just to make it harder on himself to advance

That hurt me so bad to watch. I suppose the winning build was really solid, but still, the play was sad.
Sativader
Profile Joined May 2009
33 Posts
June 14 2009 10:18 GMT
#317
Tasteless & SDM vs. Jeadong & FireBatHero on Python?


gogogogogogogogogogo



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game time Shuttle FTW!
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. - Carl Sagan aka Qui-Gon Jinn
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
June 14 2009 10:18 GMT
#318
On June 14 2009 19:10 bearbuddy wrote:
To me, Flash = pure mechanics and Fantasy = pure creativity. It's kinda like seeing Boxer and Oov.


You know the irony is, it seems that Oov is the one coming up with all the builds now.

Calling Flash pure mechanics sells him short a lot. He could use more harass in his play but he has been as responsible as anyone for defining standard Terran play over the past year. The exception, of course, is Fantasy's mech.

The upcoming MSL and OSL are really huge for Flash. He basically needs to make a really deep run in at least one, if not both leagues, and doing so will require him to redefine his play somewhat. If he manages to do that (and it's not inconceivable), he could potentially take yet another leap in skill. It's always felt like Flash hasn't quite fulfilled his potential, but if he doesn't get somewhere in this Starleague season, then maybe he really has peaked.
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
June 14 2009 10:18 GMT
#319
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 14 2009 10:18 GMT
#320
On June 14 2009 19:13 motbob wrote:
Yo fakesteve update liquibet so we can see how one-sided the vote was.


ok
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