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[SPL] CJ Entus vs. STX SouL - Page 4

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Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-22 23:49:18
May 22 2009 23:49 GMT
#61
On May 23 2009 07:25 tree.hugger wrote:
In terms of the strongest Zergs, I'd imagine ACE would get it. Those guys go through military training so they could probably bench press a whole lot more than the zergs on any other team...

Oh wait...

In my book, a lineup is two players, as one great player doesn't make for depth. For this reason, SKT1 obviously has the strongest Protoss lineup, because they have two top level toss to fill out their card with every day. As for Zerg, I think both of these teams are even- (Z)EffOrt is obviously the top player here, but (Z)Calm and (Z)Modesty are strong players, and unless we see something impressive from (Z)Devil, I don't see a strong CJ zerg to fill a regular place in their lineup. That said, you can count on EffOrt for a win, while STX usually will not go 2/2 with their zerg.
Actually, Oversky, Yellow and GoRush would make a pretty strong argument if they were all in their prime.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
May 22 2009 23:51 GMT
#62
On May 23 2009 08:47 Musoeun wrote:
Once Oversky gets back to CJ the debate will be over... NOBODY except Jaedong OZ (all by himself) will match the CJ Zerg lineup. Just throwing that out there.


the team will be too stacked for its own good lol

It can already easily fill a b07 bracket

savior
effort
Iris
Skyhigh
movie
much
--
kwanro
memory
oversky

No other team is so deep
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13069 Posts
May 23 2009 00:19 GMT
#63
3-1 for stx with only effort wining for cj
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
May 23 2009 00:31 GMT
#64
On May 23 2009 08:51 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2009 08:47 Musoeun wrote:
Once Oversky gets back to CJ the debate will be over... NOBODY except Jaedong OZ (all by himself) will match the CJ Zerg lineup. Just throwing that out there.


the team will be too stacked for its own good lol

It can already easily fill a b07 bracket

savior
effort
Iris
Skyhigh
movie
much
--
kwanro
memory
oversky

No other team is so deep

Good STX players:

Hwasin
Kal
July
Calm
by.hero
Notice
Bogus
Shuttle
Modesty (sort of)

We could give you a run for your money.
JIJIyO
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1957 Posts
May 23 2009 00:32 GMT
#65
On May 23 2009 08:51 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2009 08:47 Musoeun wrote:
Once Oversky gets back to CJ the debate will be over... NOBODY except Jaedong OZ (all by himself) will match the CJ Zerg lineup. Just throwing that out there.


the team will be too stacked for its own good lol

It can already easily fill a b07 bracket

savior
effort
Iris
Skyhigh
movie
much
--
kwanro
memory
oversky

No other team is so deep

I just love it when I see posts that contain "CJ" and "deep" in the same sentence. Makes me smile a bit =] CJ's going to take this 3-0!!! Still miss Savior though, come back to us Ma Jae Yoon ;_;
KT_Violet
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
May 23 2009 00:40 GMT
#66
On May 23 2009 09:31 3clipse wrote:
Good STX players:

(T)Notice
(T)Bogus
(Z)Modesty (sort of)

We could give you a run for your money.

Are you serious with these three?

They are easily Kwanrolled.
Solidus_315
Profile Joined January 2009
213 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-23 00:42:55
May 23 2009 00:40 GMT
#67
On May 23 2009 08:47 Musoeun wrote:
Once Oversky gets back to CJ the debate will be over... NOBODY except Jaedong OZ (all by himself) will match the CJ Zerg lineup. Just throwing that out there.


when does he return?
어헣↗ 어헣↗ 어헣↗ 어헣↗ 어헣↗ 어헣↗
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8150 Posts
May 23 2009 00:53 GMT
#68
On May 23 2009 09:40 lolaloc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2009 09:31 3clipse wrote:
Good STX players:

(T)Notice
(T)Bogus
(Z)Modesty (sort of)

We could give you a run for your money.

Are you serious with these three?

They are easily Kwanrolled.


notice has pretty sharp TvT, bogus is pretty untested in all MUs, and really we've only seen modesty play ZvZ (and he's not that great at it yet). These 3 players I think STX is trying to play more and get them up to par with the rest of the team. I thinkt that bynext Season (not R5 but next season) they can all really improve and hopefully give STX a lot more options. Especially the Terran players (its STX's worst race :\ ).
Free Palestine
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
May 23 2009 01:13 GMT
#69
On May 23 2009 09:40 lolaloc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2009 09:31 3clipse wrote:
Good STX players:

(T)Notice
(T)Bogus
(Z)Modesty (sort of)

We could give you a run for your money.

Are you serious with these three?

They are easily Kwanrolled.

Notice and Bogus are both very good considering how rarely they play. Modesty.... well, the coaches seem to think he's good. I'm not convinced yet either.
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
May 23 2009 01:51 GMT
#70
(T)Notice
is alright.

CJ is still a better team overall.
the only team close to CJ's balance is SKT1 but then we remember they have these players called zerg...
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
luckybeni2
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1065 Posts
May 23 2009 02:04 GMT
#71
note that every single map (except for BR with its zvz) favores STX. playerwise it seems like it will go to an ace but I predict stx 3-1
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
May 23 2009 02:06 GMT
#72
Devil's performance today will be unpredictable. Minor leagues is not even close to the same as Proleague. A good record is something, but historically means very little.
Jaedong
LCC
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada348 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-23 02:22:46
May 23 2009 02:22 GMT
#73
(Z)EffOrt > (T)Bogus
Outsider is good for sunken breaks and sneaky Mineral glitch vulture stuff, but (Z)EffOrt has shown himself to be really good at this game to the point where I predict (T)Bogus will lose. (T)Bogus is still awesome tho.

(Z)Devil < (Z)Modesty
No clue, Modesty I guess?

(T)sKyHigh < (P)Kal
Both are strong players. (P)Kal is good to Destination and Destination is good to (P)Kal.

(P)Movie < (Z)Calm[
Front/Back door pressure doom drop look out.
JIJIyO
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1957 Posts
May 23 2009 02:44 GMT
#74
On May 23 2009 11:22 LCC wrote:
sKyHigh < Kal
Both are strong players. Kal is good to Destination and Destination is good to Kal.

I heard this sKyHigh kid is pretty good on it as well. Don't know Where that's coming from http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?type=players&id=554&part=games&vs=all&league=any&map=188&from_year=2007&from_month=11&from_day=28&to_year=2009&to_month=5&to_day=19&Action=Update

I sort of worry about Movie since he seems so unrefined. He loses units here and there sometimes, but that's also adds to his gameplay and excitement.

So CJ can field sAviOr, EffOrt, Kwanro, sKyHigh, Iris, Movie, and Much. And also have backups in the forms of Nbs, Orion, Memory, and probably Devil soon? Damn. Don't stop it feels soooo goooddd.
KT_Violet
AlwaysGG
Profile Joined March 2009
Taiwan952 Posts
May 23 2009 02:47 GMT
#75
On May 22 2009 21:46 Marine50 wrote:
(Z)EffOrt > (T)Bogus
(Z)Devil < (Z)Modesty
(T)sKyHigh > (P)Kal
(P)Movie < (Z)Calm
(T)Iris > (Z)by.hero/(Z)Calm

CJ 3:2


they wudnt send iris for ace and they wudnt send by.hero for ace either

mite be skyhigh vs calm or something. or effort vs like hwasin
Trust 神教教主 FlaSh | Believe 火心 EffOrt
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
May 23 2009 02:50 GMT
#76
On May 23 2009 11:06 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Devil's performance today will be unpredictable. Minor leagues is not even close to the same as Proleague. A good record is something, but historically means very little.


Again I will point out that when CJ sends out a player for a one-shot like this they tend to do suprisingly well.

Whether its the player rising to the top of internal rankings, or there being some elaborate cheese prepared, they tend to suprise people.
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-23 03:05:15
May 23 2009 03:03 GMT
#77
On May 23 2009 11:47 AlwaysGG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2009 21:46 Marine50 wrote:
(Z)EffOrt > (T)Bogus
(Z)Devil < (Z)Modesty
(T)sKyHigh > (P)Kal
(P)Movie < (Z)Calm
(T)Iris > (Z)by.hero/(Z)Calm

CJ 3:2

they wudnt send iris for ace and they wudnt send by.hero for ace either

mite be skyhigh vs calm or something. or effort vs like hwasin

I agree that by.hero won't be seeing any pt today, but Iris is a distinct possibility for the Ace match. He's 2-0 on Heartbreak, and would match up well against whoever STX throws out there (spare Kal). I'd still make EffOrt the favorite to come out in the Ace, but Iris isn't outside the realm of possibility at all.
Moderator
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
May 23 2009 03:45 GMT
#78
NEW BATTLE ROYALE!!!
or has it already been played on?
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-23 03:51:32
May 23 2009 03:49 GMT
#79
On May 23 2009 08:29 Solidus_315 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2009 07:25 tree.hugger wrote:
In terms of the strongest Zergs, I'd imagine ACE would get it. Those guys go through military training so they could probably bench press a whole lot more than the zergs on any other team...

Oh wait...

In my book, a lineup is two players, as one great player doesn't make for depth. For this reason, SKT1 obviously has the strongest Protoss lineup, because they have two top level toss to fill out their card with every day. As for Zerg, I think both of these teams are even- (Z)EffOrt is obviously the top player here, but (Z)Calm and (Z)Modesty are strong players, and unless we see something impressive from (Z)Devil, I don't see a strong CJ zerg to fill a regular place in their lineup. That said, you can count on EffOrt for a win, while STX usually will not go 2/2 with their zerg.


kwanro ain't good enough for you?


Not at all actually, he's waaay overrated.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
May 23 2009 03:52 GMT
#80
On May 23 2009 12:45 Mykill wrote:
NEW BATTLE ROYALE!!!
or has it already been played on?

It will never be played on. Shades of Twilight is the map that got picked to replace Battle Royale, and it won't enter the rotation until next week.
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