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Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
May 22 2009 18:28 GMT
#361
On May 22 2009 20:51 exkgb wrote:
I actually like effort's ZvT over Jaedong's he's less aggressive and plays a lot more solid and safe hive-tech game instead of relying on pure muta micro, granted that jaedong's muta micro is insanely good.

yeah agreed. savior style = management style which I love seeing instead of pure micro.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
May 22 2009 21:25 GMT
#362
On May 22 2009 20:21 Smix wrote:
Ro16 qualifiers thus far --

zergs: (Z)Jaedong (Z)by.hero (Z)ZerO (Z)EffOrt
terran: (T)fantasy (T)Leta (T)go.go (T)Hwasin
protoss: (P)BackHo (P)Bisu


Ugh, if I never see go.go's face again it'll be too soon.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-23 00:42:48
May 23 2009 00:39 GMT
#363
On May 22 2009 19:42 Magic84 wrote:
What a game. Player like Effort should be beating player like Ruby 10 times out of 10 though, easily #2 zerg.


really? i dont think someone who forgets to research adrenal glands is #2 zerg

people completely exaggerating his ability, the outsider match was so unbelievably sloppy... throwing away masses of units, failing to protect hatcheries or manage to finish the game when he had like 8 expansions. it wasnt very impressive at all. on the plus side defiler control was good and guardians used reasonably well. but as for being one of the top zergs.. um no. not from this performance anyway, been a lot more impressive in other matches.
Speake
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States494 Posts
May 23 2009 05:17 GMT
#364
On May 23 2009 09:39 infinity2k9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2009 19:42 Magic84 wrote:
What a game. Player like Effort should be beating player like Ruby 10 times out of 10 though, easily #2 zerg.


really? i dont think someone who forgets to research adrenal glands is #2 zerg

people completely exaggerating his ability, the outsider match was so unbelievably sloppy... throwing away masses of units, failing to protect hatcheries or manage to finish the game when he had like 8 expansions. it wasnt very impressive at all. on the plus side defiler control was good and guardians used reasonably well. but as for being one of the top zergs.. um no. not from this performance anyway, been a lot more impressive in other matches.


Effort is 18-2 in his last 20. I think it just got to a point in the game where he felt he could waste units and not care about it. I remember some savior games where he forgot adrenal...
tQ.Speake
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
May 23 2009 05:18 GMT
#365
On May 23 2009 09:39 infinity2k9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2009 19:42 Magic84 wrote:
What a game. Player like Effort should be beating player like Ruby 10 times out of 10 though, easily #2 zerg.


really? i dont think someone who forgets to research adrenal glands is #2 zerg

people completely exaggerating his ability, the outsider match was so unbelievably sloppy... throwing away masses of units, failing to protect hatcheries or manage to finish the game when he had like 8 expansions. it wasnt very impressive at all. on the plus side defiler control was good and guardians used reasonably well. but as for being one of the top zergs.. um no. not from this performance anyway, been a lot more impressive in other matches.

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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
May 23 2009 06:53 GMT
#366
On May 23 2009 03:28 Kentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2009 20:51 exkgb wrote:
I actually like effort's ZvT over Jaedong's he's less aggressive and plays a lot more solid and safe hive-tech game instead of relying on pure muta micro, granted that jaedong's muta micro is insanely good.

yeah agreed. savior style = management style which I love seeing instead of pure micro.

Maybe, but these games really couldn't be a good indication of that. The first game, he went for a lurker opening, which is generally passive as it stalls for defilers. And the second game, many zergs due a similar strategy of stalling until guardians or ultralisks on Outsider. Effort hasn't developed a distinctive style besides being good imo.
Jaedong
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-23 18:51:29
May 23 2009 18:48 GMT
#367
Man I just saw that 2nd game between Ruby and Effort, that was exciting! I like em both, but the more CJ players go through, the merrier.
And I can't imagine Ruby saluting with his left hand to be anything but a stupid mistake, it's not like he's gonna aim to piss off his future team mates. Can't see why one would get their pants in a twist over this.

觀過斯知仁矣.
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