EPT[SPL] SK Telecom T1 vs KTF MagicNs - Page 53
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TwoToneTerran
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G3CKO
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Lebesgue
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 I guess I have to accept that I will never read how Violet felt after he won against Bisu... | ||
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TwoToneTerran
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Lebesgue
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On May 26 2009 05:38 TwoToneTerran wrote: Smix is working on it. It's right in her sig: "Working on: Nada/reach ; KTF/SKT1" Give the girl a break. Oh. I didn't know. Obvioulsy I don't want to push anyone while on the other hand I am super eager to read it. But the knowledge that someone is working on it is calming. | ||
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Orbifold
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ArvickHero
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On May 26 2009 05:03 TwoToneTerran wrote: In retrospect of this thread, I do like how people say Flash isn't creative or dynamic. He's probably the only player I've ever seen actually find a legitimate use for Ghosts and Nukes in a game. ? There are other terrans who have used Ghosts/nukes effectively | ||
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TwoToneTerran
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anch
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after watching Flash's game and the result, holy shit,lolol | ||
JWD
United States12607 Posts
On May 26 2009 09:15 TwoToneTerran wrote: Effectively=/= a legitimately useful situation that occured in a top tier match (Flash vs Skyhigh). We've seen scrubs get nuked hilariously (Boxer vs Baxter, heheh) plenty of times and it technically counted as 'effective,' but it wasn't a situation that it was best suited for, unlike the hidden barracks thing Flash was about to pull on Skyhigh before he finished it off anyhow. Casy vs. Jy on Troy? Also, it's kind of silly to say that Flash is using nukes "legitimately" when he's already miles ahead in a game, but Boxer wasn't using them "legitimately" because he was playing a much weaker opponent...aren't these effectively the same situation? | ||
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ArvickHero
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I believe Boxer also used it against Nal_rA in some game on Python | ||
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TwoToneTerran
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On May 26 2009 09:21 JWD wrote: Casy vs. Jy on Troy? Also, it's kind of silly to say that Flash is using nukes "legitimately" when he's already miles ahead in a game, but Boxer wasn't using them "legitimately" because he was playing a much weaker opponent...aren't these effectively the same situation? Flash wasn't too far ahead, and even if he was the point was, outside of gimmicking weaker opponents (Skyhigh is not a weak opponent, especially on dest), he used something few people see as useful for more than scouting in TvT (the barracks) adaptively (making marines to fight off Skyhigh's wraiths) and inventively (after his forces were cleared out from behind he landed it and made the most powerful unit you can out of a barracks, ghosts with nukes, where Skyhigh had thought was a clear area). And beyond that, the point was Flash is a player who knows how to adapt and, even on the fly, do unorthodox and clever strategies. People keep arguing Fantasy's creativeness is what makes him better and that Flash is just a robot when that's not really the case. And yeah, I guess I haven't seen every game there is and might've missed some Nukes (I've been mostly a casual watcher since the days of Reach), but the level of play this happened on was in an entirely different league. Boxer vs Nal_Ra, or the time, might've been top tier, but nothing compared to the hyper-optimized games of today. If Flash were just doing it to embarass/revenge kill/bad manner the hell out of Skyhigh he wouldn't have finished it off with the drops. The only thing there was his purely optimizing style and creativeness kicking in. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On May 26 2009 05:03 TwoToneTerran wrote: In retrospect of this thread, I do like how people say Flash isn't creative or dynamic. He's probably the only player I've ever seen actually find a legitimate use for Ghosts and Nukes in a game. Stylish even has nuke sunkenbust build replays. O_o It's not that strange, really. Maybe at the prolevel, but yeah. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
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JWD
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On May 26 2009 10:05 TwoToneTerran wrote: It's pretty sad how absolutely specific I have to be to get a point across. Welcome to crowdsourced quality control! | ||
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psion0011
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BlackMagister
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piratebay
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TwoToneTerran
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On May 26 2009 11:31 BlackMagister wrote: Wait are you referring to the SkyHigh vs Flash game where Flash had pretty much already won and started making nukes? + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLP7yZJ1J9E He was working on it well before then. It's just an example of him being cleverly unorthodox. He was ready to deliver the killing blow but like I said, it's not like he was doing it not for it to be useful -- if he was doing it for anything other than effectiveness then he wouldn't have doom dropped the expo and would've BM nuked the hell out of him. Serves me right for exaggerating. I should just go back and edit the post to "Cleverly setting up Ghosts and Nukes in a more modern game" How dare I use the word legitimate. | ||
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Samurai-
Slovenia2035 Posts
On May 25 2009 05:57 Smix wrote: I'll do them later tonight after I come back from dinner and whatnot. Have i missed this or its still not translated? Pls smix | ||
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