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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
May 18 2009 01:01 GMT
#241
Wow.

WCG admins suck and blow it again, but MachineHead, that's just low man.
Moderator
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
May 18 2009 01:07 GMT
#242
I, for one, will be REALLY disappointed if Idra doesn't represent USA at WCG Finals.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
May 18 2009 01:08 GMT
#243
dont worry about it its double elim and it seems he wasnt able to cheat his way through the entire thing.
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MachineHead
Profile Joined January 2009
United States151 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-18 01:21:10
May 18 2009 01:20 GMT
#244
I showed up to play, not take a walkover. I'm not a fucking admin, I can't predict if the tourney has been rescheduled or what their plans are on handling it if no one shows. All I did was play it safe and add protection against a coin flip deciding, nothing more. If the tourney gets rescheduled, my actions today will not have mattered. My actions today should have no barring on that, either.

To me, it's a moot point. What happens if 2 pro teams decide they don't like the date they are scheduled to play on, so they just show up and play at w/e time. Yeah, those results are not official unless sanctioned... Why should this be different? O, because WCG is worthless and we, the players, run it Give me a break guys. I hope to play it out in full tomorrow. Please take this up with who should be dealing with this. If they ignore all of our attempts to get it rescheduled/see if it is, chances are they prob don't want to reschedule it. Either take a clue, or rely on an agreement that hasn't been accepted by the people who decide whether it means anything...

If it is rescheduled and you get to play in the losers bracket... you will be playing me in the first round. Please, think a little bit. My walkover was submitted only under the condition of this being the final day. Yeah, I'm a big cheater, guys...
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
May 18 2009 01:30 GMT
#245
wcg IS run by the players because the admins dont know what theyre doing. just look at day's boycott thread. if no one had showed and they decided everything on coinflips certain people would have bitched and it would have been fixed.

you shoulda been overjoyed at the prospect of a coinflip anyway. give you an extra 50% chance to win.

you agreed to reschedule. you showed up and took a walkover. you cant argue this, you're a faggot. give it up.
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Louder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States2276 Posts
May 18 2009 01:34 GMT
#246
Machinehead is a wo lover for sure. I missed a match vs him due to an emergency and he refused to play. Cursed me out called me names etc. What a trash can
MachineHead
Profile Joined January 2009
United States151 Posts
May 18 2009 01:34 GMT
#247
Did you have a graduation to attend? O, I thought that was Day. My bad. Great, WCG is ran by the players, so let's go ahead and make it an official reschedule tomorrow. I'm happy this was solved so easy. Go us. WCG no shows have been decided by coin flips, and to my knowledge no one has bitched; obviously that depends on the circumstances though.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10014 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-18 01:42:28
May 18 2009 01:35 GMT
#248
On May 18 2009 10:20 MachineHead wrote:
I showed up to play, not take a walkover. I'm not a fucking admin, I can't predict if the tourney has been rescheduled or what their plans are on handling it if no one shows. All I did was play it safe and add protection against a coin flip deciding, nothing more. If the tourney gets rescheduled, my actions today will not have mattered. My actions today should have no barring on that, either.

To me, it's a moot point. What happens if 2 pro teams decide they don't like the date they are scheduled to play on, so they just show up and play at w/e time. Yeah, those results are not official unless sanctioned... Why should this be different? O, because WCG is worthless and we, the players, run it Give me a break guys. I hope to play it out in full tomorrow. Please take this up with who should be dealing with this. If they ignore all of our attempts to get it rescheduled/see if it is, chances are they prob don't want to reschedule it. Either take a clue, or rely on an agreement that hasn't been accepted by the people who decide whether it means anything...

If it is rescheduled and you get to play in the losers bracket... you will be playing me in the first round. Please, think a little bit. My walkover was submitted only under the condition of this being the final day. Yeah, I'm a big cheater, guys...


ok ill put it into simpler terms because you twist and turn everything into some long ass story
1)you agreed with the rest of the players to postpone the match
2)your opponent is thinking that because you agreed to this he doesnt need to show up to the match
3)u go back your word and show up and take a w.o over him just as a safety measure, possibly even a freewin,

conclusion: if they do flip a coin or whatever wcg usa does(lol) youd end up weaseling yourself a freewin because you "showed up" to your match.. which is cheap
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MachineHead
Profile Joined January 2009
United States151 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-18 01:37:24
May 18 2009 01:36 GMT
#249
On May 18 2009 10:34 Louder wrote:
Machinehead is a wo lover for sure. I missed a match vs him due to an emergency and he refused to play. Cursed me out called me names etc. What a trash can


Louder, don't even bring your dumb ass into this. Hey, MachineHead, check your email because I have been emailing (lie) you about it and the admin said it was cool for me to not show up and now you have to play me (lie) even though your real opponent is trying to get you to play. Louder, all I can say is lol. Idra has a reason to be mad. You, on the other hand, are a piece of shit.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 18 2009 01:40 GMT
#250
http://qualify.us.wcg.com/?page=stem&view=schedule&stageid=2673
ModeratorGood content always wins.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
May 18 2009 01:40 GMT
#251
...wow machinehead
that's just low.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
May 18 2009 01:41 GMT
#252
On May 18 2009 10:36 MachineHead wrote:
Idra has a reason to be mad.

So you're admitting that you screwed up here?
ModeratorGood content always wins.
MachineHead
Profile Joined January 2009
United States151 Posts
May 18 2009 01:45 GMT
#253
I'm admitting he was confused and WCG failed to do their job, nothing more than that. He has no reason to be mad at me... my walkover won't count unless today is the final day. O, man, I jewed him in a coinflip percentage. I made accommodations for Day, I didn't even need to for Idra... Unless the tourney gets rescheduled, you have to show up...
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
May 18 2009 01:49 GMT
#254
On May 17 2009 13:14 Day[9] wrote:

can you do the reschedule at 6pm PST on monday???

idra and my opponent (JRaynor) say 6pm PST works. you're the last one!!!


On May 17 2009 14:01 MachineHead wrote:
Ok.


go fuck yourself
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DrTJEckleburg
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1080 Posts
May 18 2009 02:08 GMT
#255
That's rough, hope you guys get to play later on. And lol @ the coin flip, amazing that WCG is this poorly run, I know that's been said a million times already, but good god.
Im pretty good at whistling with my hands, especially when Im holding a whistle.
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
May 18 2009 02:18 GMT
#256
Machine, that's just shitty. For all the matches WCG USA let's players agree to play the match at a time that works better for them, as long as it doesn't affect subsequent matches. Everyone else is waiting to accommodate Day, so if you were to wait, waiting wouldn't affect a subsequent match. You had no justification for taking the W/O over Idra AFTER AGREEING TO PLAY HIM AT A LATER TIME.
Carbon FC
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
May 18 2009 02:23 GMT
#257
On May 18 2009 09:51 MachineHead wrote:
Idra, first of all, you are a fucking retard if you think we have to change our times to play a game that doesn't involve Day. What have we done for the past week, play one opponent per night? No way... can't comprehend that. Second of all, you are more of a retard if you think there isn't an official time for a reason. You just said earlier "did the admins approve of this?" Why even have that concern if it doesn't matter. You are fucking lucky I ASKED for it to be rescheduled while submitting the walkover. Maybe you should stop gaming 24/7 and learn some fucking reading comprehension you fucking dimwit.

Get the admins to do their job and acknowledge/agree to it and I will be playing you tomorrow. I went 1-2 vs you last year at wcg, while inactive for months and coming back that week while you had been a pro for a year +. I don't mother fucking care if you win, but stop acting like you are the shit.


If you had half a fucking brain dude, you would've PMed me who even said in this thread "WCG sent me an e-mail OBVIOUSLY MEANT FOR MICHAEL GARDNER" and said "Hey bud, forward me that e-mail" in which you would've seen that it said the entire thing would be played out in one day not one opponent per night for the final four.

Dude, as far as I've seen you're a scumbag and a liar to boot. You've now been accused of taking two walkovers when both opponents requested walkovers. You're a fucking dirtbag.
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
MachineHead
Profile Joined January 2009
United States151 Posts
May 18 2009 02:32 GMT
#258
Me and Idra didn't HAVE to wait to still be able to accommodate Day. 4 players: 2 of them being me and Idra. Honestly, I was agreeing to show up at that time due to matches pertaining to Day -- If I happened to have to play him. Put yourself in my shoes, why would you not show up for a game that WCG won't reschedule, when both players can already play at that time and it won't affect Day. Sounds unnecessarily risky to me.

I wasn't going to wake up for a match on 3 hours of sleep to lose to a fucking coin flip when I showed up at the official time and when we both could have played.. We both should have showed up at least. I just want to be done with this. I mean, faulty admin work putting people in bad situations. I don't want this. I plan on playing tomorrow and having the walkover be removed. Usually when you change times of the matches, it's something you have to agree on before the official time begins, otherwise you are at the mercy of the admins, and who want's to be in that spot?
MachineHead
Profile Joined January 2009
United States151 Posts
May 18 2009 02:38 GMT
#259
On May 18 2009 11:23 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2009 09:51 MachineHead wrote:
Idra, first of all, you are a fucking retard if you think we have to change our times to play a game that doesn't involve Day. What have we done for the past week, play one opponent per night? No way... can't comprehend that. Second of all, you are more of a retard if you think there isn't an official time for a reason. You just said earlier "did the admins approve of this?" Why even have that concern if it doesn't matter. You are fucking lucky I ASKED for it to be rescheduled while submitting the walkover. Maybe you should stop gaming 24/7 and learn some fucking reading comprehension you fucking dimwit.

Get the admins to do their job and acknowledge/agree to it and I will be playing you tomorrow. I went 1-2 vs you last year at wcg, while inactive for months and coming back that week while you had been a pro for a year +. I don't mother fucking care if you win, but stop acting like you are the shit.


If you had half a fucking brain dude, you would've PMed me who even said in this thread "WCG sent me an e-mail OBVIOUSLY MEANT FOR MICHAEL GARDNER" and said "Hey bud, forward me that e-mail" in which you would've seen that it said the entire thing would be played out in one day not one opponent per night for the final four.

Dude, as far as I've seen you're a scumbag and a liar to boot. You've now been accused of taking two walkovers when both opponents requested walkovers. You're a fucking dirtbag.


You are the guy that sent me a stupid PM that I kindly responded to, and you were asking me if I were the same Michael Gardner that went to your high school. How dumb do you have to be to assume a high probability of me being him? Like there are only a few people in the USA named that. Come on... Here is an idea Sherlockes: you get an email that is directed to me, why don't you post the whole fucking thing or PM me it. I shouldn't have to ask you for it or expect you to only pick certain parts to show. And, regardless, I can already see that on the site.

Yeah, the site also didn't say the tourney would be played tomorrow. I do the "right" thing given the circumstances, and people like you that don't know shit pile on because it "looks bad." Do yourself a favor and try to feel important somewhere else.
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3352 Posts
May 18 2009 02:41 GMT
#260
How long till this idiot is banned?
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