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Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
April 13 2009 08:19 GMT
#241
On April 13 2009 09:47 Hot_Bid wrote:
Please stay on topic, no more bash Idra or bash Xiaozi or bash people that bash them or stuff like that.

La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
ReiKo
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Croatia1023 Posts
April 13 2009 08:29 GMT
#242
Ok, sorry. But things and excuses he says are just ridicilous. Is it so hard to take lose and continue to play?


@ Yayba vs Sab9000

I really don't know how did Yayba lose that + stream was going down that replay 2-3 times so it was bit hard to follow.

But I just think Sab9000 attacked with right force in right timing window.When I seen Defiler usage without lurkers vs mass zeal+arch+goon I did think Yayba really has the game.

Map is imho very nice for Zerg too so maybe that was also a factor for Sab9000.
Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
April 13 2009 08:35 GMT
#243
On April 13 2009 10:09 3 Lions wrote:
Too bad the stream died so many times today, but whatever, I'm sure they'll fix it by the second broadcast. Imo nobody played spectacular today, but I think Oysetein needs to win his next match because I think JF will win in the Loser's match. Xiaozi should make it out of his group imo, and if Idra plays safer he should make it too.


Yeah, we're going to try to figure something out for next week. Usually uStream works fine so it was disappointing that it decided not to. We might try to switch to mogulus if we can figure out how to get our account "verified" heh.

Anyway, it's actually OSL style groups.. round robin (each player plays everyone else in their group once). So there's no losers match, JF will just have to play the others in the group and try to get 2-1.
aka Moletrap
Quanticfograw
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States2053 Posts
April 13 2009 13:31 GMT
#244
I think Idra is easily one of the better foriegners out there but he needs to learn to tackle his nerves. His mechanics are so nice but he makes little mistakes here and there that along with his lack of mental toughness cost him games.
https://twitter.com/quanticfograw
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
April 13 2009 15:48 GMT
#245
will there be any vods posted?
You can't fight the feeling.
ReiKo
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Croatia1023 Posts
April 13 2009 15:50 GMT
#246
On April 14 2009 00:48 lokiM wrote:
will there be any vods posted?


Yeah, they did say the VODS will be up.
alt.tday
Profile Joined April 2009
United States180 Posts
April 13 2009 23:08 GMT
#247
On April 13 2009 12:12 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2009 10:09 3 Lions wrote:
I wish people would actually respect Idra more. I mean yeah he's BM, but if that's his personality, so what? He's the only foreigner playing in Korea right now. Yes, he loses to other foreigners, but I'm sure Flash and Leta and co. have lost to 3 hatch lings before.

Too bad the stream died so many times today, but whatever, I'm sure they'll fix it by the second broadcast. Imo nobody played spectacular today, but I think Oysetein needs to win his next match because I think JF will win in the Loser's match. Xiaozi should make it out of his group imo, and if Idra plays safer he should make it too.

i wont be making it out of the group
i emailed them a week ago that xiaozi has horrible lag, with me at least (and with a bunch of other people, though he claims he doesnt). they chose to do nothing about it, so ive withdrawn from the league.


lol. excuses, Idra, excuses.
♠Spades ♣Clubs ♥Hearts ♦Diamonds ★★★★★
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
April 13 2009 23:35 GMT
#248
On April 13 2009 15:28 Samurai- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2009 10:09 3 Lions wrote:
I wish people would actually respect Idra more. I mean yeah he's BM, but if that's his personality, so what? He's the only foreigner playing in Korea right now.


Thats one of the most pathetic things i ve ever read... The reason why he lost respect ( if he ever had some in the first place) is because he is a BM kid, and saying its his personality its even more lame.. He cant even think a little before posting and he cant show respect to his fellow gamers like gg after the game or "shit talk" on the forums..

Case closed..

Not really. Imagine a world without BM people like Idra, Firebathero, go.go, and that Jose Mourinho guy.

People like Idra make eSports and sports interesting. If everone was gm than there would be much less drama.
SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
April 14 2009 02:19 GMT
#249
On April 14 2009 08:35 3 Lions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2009 15:28 Samurai- wrote:
On April 13 2009 10:09 3 Lions wrote:
I wish people would actually respect Idra more. I mean yeah he's BM, but if that's his personality, so what? He's the only foreigner playing in Korea right now.


Thats one of the most pathetic things i ve ever read... The reason why he lost respect ( if he ever had some in the first place) is because he is a BM kid, and saying its his personality its even more lame.. He cant even think a little before posting and he cant show respect to his fellow gamers like gg after the game or "shit talk" on the forums..

Case closed..

Not really. Imagine a world without BM people like Idra, Firebathero, go.go, and that Jose Mourinho guy.

People like Idra make eSports and sports interesting. If everone was gm than there would be much less drama.


All the best games in Sc were because of the skill and intensity displayed in the matches, not because of some bm guy vs gm guy.
If Idra actually put all his focus and effort of bming into practice and learning, I'm pretty sure he'll be better off then how he is right now.

If you want some rivarly and drama why don't you go watch some "professional" wrestling or somehting?
Karma is a bitch
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
April 14 2009 02:32 GMT
#250
On April 14 2009 11:19 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2009 08:35 3 Lions wrote:
On April 13 2009 15:28 Samurai- wrote:
On April 13 2009 10:09 3 Lions wrote:
I wish people would actually respect Idra more. I mean yeah he's BM, but if that's his personality, so what? He's the only foreigner playing in Korea right now.


Thats one of the most pathetic things i ve ever read... The reason why he lost respect ( if he ever had some in the first place) is because he is a BM kid, and saying its his personality its even more lame.. He cant even think a little before posting and he cant show respect to his fellow gamers like gg after the game or "shit talk" on the forums..

Case closed..

Not really. Imagine a world without BM people like Idra, Firebathero, go.go, and that Jose Mourinho guy.

People like Idra make eSports and sports interesting. If everone was gm than there would be much less drama.


All the best games in Sc were because of the skill and intensity displayed in the matches, not because of some bm guy vs gm guy.
If Idra actually put all his focus and effort of bming into practice and learning, I'm pretty sure he'll be better off then how he is right now.

If you want some rivarly and drama why don't you go watch some "professional" wrestling or somehting?


Thats a ridiculous assertion..I dont think he practices "being bm", you really dont think he sits around for hours thinking of things to say when he gets cheesed, that pretty silly, it just comes out naturally. And the lag issue was clearly brought up before the match, so its not an excuse out of nowhere. But yea I guess thats all that needs to be said, or rather can be said. I hope for some good matches from the rest.
Bond(i2)
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada926 Posts
April 14 2009 03:04 GMT
#251
On April 14 2009 11:32 mog87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2009 11:19 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
On April 14 2009 08:35 3 Lions wrote:
On April 13 2009 15:28 Samurai- wrote:
On April 13 2009 10:09 3 Lions wrote:
I wish people would actually respect Idra more. I mean yeah he's BM, but if that's his personality, so what? He's the only foreigner playing in Korea right now.


Thats one of the most pathetic things i ve ever read... The reason why he lost respect ( if he ever had some in the first place) is because he is a BM kid, and saying its his personality its even more lame.. He cant even think a little before posting and he cant show respect to his fellow gamers like gg after the game or "shit talk" on the forums..

Case closed..

Not really. Imagine a world without BM people like Idra, Firebathero, go.go, and that Jose Mourinho guy.

People like Idra make eSports and sports interesting. If everone was gm than there would be much less drama.


All the best games in Sc were because of the skill and intensity displayed in the matches, not because of some bm guy vs gm guy.
If Idra actually put all his focus and effort of bming into practice and learning, I'm pretty sure he'll be better off then how he is right now.

If you want some rivarly and drama why don't you go watch some "professional" wrestling or somehting?


Thats a ridiculous assertion..I dont think he practices "being bm", you really dont think he sits around for hours thinking of things to say when he gets cheesed, that pretty silly, it just comes out naturally. And the lag issue was clearly brought up before the match, so its not an excuse out of nowhere. But yea I guess thats all that needs to be said, or rather can be said. I hope for some good matches from the rest.

I think what fantasy means is that IdrA needs to change his attitude if he wants to go anywhere in this game.
roses are red violets are blue, Im schitzophrenic and so am i
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-14 04:54:08
April 14 2009 04:53 GMT
#252

I think what fantasy means is that IdrA needs to change his attitude if he wants to go anywhere in this game.


I suppose that would make more sense than the way he said it, but nonetheless this isn't necessarily true either way.


Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
April 14 2009 05:22 GMT
#253
On April 14 2009 13:53 mog87 wrote:
Show nested quote +

I think what fantasy means is that IdrA needs to change his attitude if he wants to go anywhere in this game.


I suppose that would make more sense than the way he said it, but nonetheless this isn't necessarily true either way.



Clearly IdrA has accomplished nothing.

On April 13 2009 17:19 Itachii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2009 09:47 Hot_Bid wrote:
Please stay on topic, no more bash Idra or bash Xiaozi or bash people that bash them or stuff like that.


He started this debate one post after this was quoted, come on.
Jaedong
Z.Kw
Profile Joined February 2009
China297 Posts
April 14 2009 05:44 GMT
#254
No real surprise IdrA lost.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17731 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-14 05:52:02
April 14 2009 05:50 GMT
#255
On April 14 2009 14:22 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2009 13:53 mog87 wrote:

I think what fantasy means is that IdrA needs to change his attitude if he wants to go anywhere in this game.


I suppose that would make more sense than the way he said it, but nonetheless this isn't necessarily true either way.



Clearly IdrA has accomplished nothing.


Only foreign progamer currently playing in korea? Isnt that an accomplishment in itself? Getting invited in to cj. Given a free progaming license. Beating yellow 2-0 at blizzcon.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
April 14 2009 05:53 GMT
#256
On April 14 2009 14:50 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2009 14:22 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On April 14 2009 13:53 mog87 wrote:

I think what fantasy means is that IdrA needs to change his attitude if he wants to go anywhere in this game.


I suppose that would make more sense than the way he said it, but nonetheless this isn't necessarily true either way.



Clearly IdrA has accomplished nothing.


Only foreign progamer currently playing in korea? Isnt that an accomplishment in itself? Getting invited in to cj. Given a free progaming license. Beating yellow 2-0 at blizzcon.

\sarcasm ><
Jaedong
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17731 Posts
April 14 2009 05:59 GMT
#257
kill me now
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
April 14 2009 06:23 GMT
#258
On April 14 2009 14:22 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2009 13:53 mog87 wrote:

I think what fantasy means is that IdrA needs to change his attitude if he wants to go anywhere in this game.


I suppose that would make more sense than the way he said it, but nonetheless this isn't necessarily true either way.



Clearly IdrA has accomplished nothing.

Show nested quote +
On April 13 2009 17:19 Itachii wrote:
On April 13 2009 09:47 Hot_Bid wrote:
Please stay on topic, no more bash Idra or bash Xiaozi or bash people that bash them or stuff like that.


He started this debate one post after this was quoted, come on.



I think you are misquoting or misunderstanding, because I never said he hasnt accomplished anything, I was merely stating his aftergame reactions in reality likely have very little to do with his improvement and progress.
oneill
Profile Joined August 2004
Philippines278 Posts
April 14 2009 06:23 GMT
#259
Why are there W.O? should be rescheduled.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-14 08:51:01
April 14 2009 08:44 GMT
#260
On April 14 2009 08:35 3 Lions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2009 15:28 Samurai- wrote:
On April 13 2009 10:09 3 Lions wrote:
I wish people would actually respect Idra more. I mean yeah he's BM, but if that's his personality, so what? He's the only foreigner playing in Korea right now.


Thats one of the most pathetic things i ve ever read... The reason why he lost respect ( if he ever had some in the first place) is because he is a BM kid, and saying its his personality its even more lame.. He cant even think a little before posting and he cant show respect to his fellow gamers like gg after the game or "shit talk" on the forums..

Case closed..

Not really. Imagine a world without BM people like Idra, Firebathero, go.go, and that Jose Mourinho guy.

People like Idra make eSports and sports interesting. If everone was gm than there would be much less drama.


Can you really compare FBH's behaviour to IdrA's?
Is FBH bad mannered to his "fans"?

anyway, great event!
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
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