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SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
March 22 2009 06:49 GMT
#1561
On March 22 2009 15:46 BisuBoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 15:43 latent wrote:
On March 22 2009 15:39 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On March 22 2009 15:37 latent wrote:
On March 22 2009 15:34 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On March 22 2009 15:32 latent wrote:
If he had noticed 11 and dropshipped onto it I don't think Jaedong would've survived.

He had a nydus canal there, and a creep colony (might've morphed into a sunken later).

It takes time for a player to react to a drop by sending units through a nydus. They need to gather both lings and a defiler, and use consume if it doesn't have the energy. There are tons and tons of games where terrans successfully drop a bunch of marines onto a nydus containing zerg expo. Even if they don't kill the hatchery as long as they kill the drones that's good enough for the time being.

That's speculation, we don't know for sure the drop would've killed off anything too major considering JD's reaction times,
"I don't think Jaedong would've survived" It all depends on how well you think he could defend it. I think a nydus+a sunken would be sufficient.

What I'm trying to say (and even if I'm wrong thankyou for arguing with me civilly) is that regardless of reaction time, it takes a significant amount of time to gather the forces necessary, send them through the canal, and take out the MnM force. Watching endless numbers of TvZs, drops always have success in late game TvZ as long as they avoid scourges and there are no units already present in the base. It wouldn't matter if JD reacted instantaneously.


Goddamn I am getting tired of seeing your posts pollute threads. FFS this is a community forum, not your personal pulpit. If it's quite obv people don't want to hear what you're saying then just stfu for the interim. Stop acting like you deserve a voice and people have an obligation to respond to you in the manner you want. You're supposed to be here to contribute, not be a whiny pain in the ass.

Don't even start BisuB. You're just feeding the fire.
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Person514cs
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1004 Posts
March 22 2009 06:49 GMT
#1562
Hoejja was so close from beating Jaedong. So.. close..
Peace and love, for ever.
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
March 22 2009 06:50 GMT
#1563
I thought this was at 18:30.

Fuck!

I can't believe i missed this.
WindCalibur
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada938 Posts
March 22 2009 06:50 GMT
#1564
is it just me or it seemed like flash couldn't keep up with Jaedong last game in terms of multitasking?
Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
March 22 2009 06:50 GMT
#1565
I just realized the finals are on my bday, jaedong allkill cj bday present? please?
"Wow you could literally transport Lomo's face to a girl and the result would be pretty deceptive."
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
March 22 2009 06:50 GMT
#1566
On March 22 2009 15:49 Person514cs wrote:
Hoejja was so close from beating Jaedong. So.. close..


haha imagine how different this series would be if that had happened
Writerman what
ssj114
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Afghanistan461 Posts
March 22 2009 06:51 GMT
#1567
On March 22 2009 15:50 WindCalibur wrote:
is it just me or it seemed like flash couldn't keep up with Jaedong last game in terms of multitasking?


Wouldn't be surprised. Jaedong has the best multi-tasking of this protoss era.
Sandboxie + SUA + DEP, Windows Firewall + NAT Router
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
March 22 2009 06:51 GMT
#1568
Fucking props to Jaedong.

He just drove through KTF's best players for an all kill.

I think he set a new personal ELO peak too.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11391 Posts
March 22 2009 06:51 GMT
#1569
On March 22 2009 15:50 Atrioc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 15:49 Person514cs wrote:
Hoejja was so close from beating Jaedong. So.. close..


haha imagine how different this series would be if that had happened

Backho or Ggaemo allkill obv.
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CVXRush
Profile Joined September 2004
Brazil94 Posts
March 22 2009 06:53 GMT
#1570
Thanks sAw for voting on KTF and thanks jaedong for giving me #1 at Liquidbet!
BisuBoi
Profile Joined February 2009
United States350 Posts
March 22 2009 06:53 GMT
#1571
On March 22 2009 15:51 ssj114 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 15:50 WindCalibur wrote:
is it just me or it seemed like flash couldn't keep up with Jaedong last game in terms of multitasking?


Wouldn't be surprised. Jaedong has the best multi-tasking of this protoss era.


I agree. Flash's multitask started to fall behind in the late game. The one part that stands out in my mind is when he had like a ctrl group of rines attacking the defiler under the swarm, then Flash noticed it and moved toward the min line to take out the other defiler and drones. At the last second JD throws down another swarm with his 2nd defiler, saves the defiler, then rushes in with lings and rapes all the rines with zero losses. Flash's marines just stood there shooting into the swarm the whole time... Numerous other times too with SVs out of position after irradiates, and just endless amounts of rines dying to lurker spines :-S. Godly play by both, but JD earned that win for sure.
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
March 22 2009 06:58 GMT
#1572
I felt that an important point was around midgame. When FlaSh tried to do a funky Marine split over the bridge against like 3 lurkers. And he lost a LOT of units that way, I feel like there could've been a better, more practical option than squeezing through a tight choke to try and take those down.
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d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
March 22 2009 07:00 GMT
#1573
On March 22 2009 15:25 SilverskY wrote:
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On March 22 2009 15:24 d(O.o)a wrote:
I've got to say, I don't think CJ stands a chance against the Jaedong we saw tonight. That was utter domination of FLASH that we just saw.

What game did you watch?... FlaSh didn't get utterly dominated...


Yes he did, the last 5 minutes of the game were rape.
Hi.
EternaLEnVy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada513 Posts
March 22 2009 07:03 GMT
#1574
On March 22 2009 15:38 SilverskY wrote:
It's funny that one of the last things that Luxury said after his MSL championship was that he will practice harder to surpass Jaedong and become the #1 Zerg in the world.

lawl~ fail. -_-;

Though I also find that funny, u have to at least give him more than a day lol.
Hell in my head
Spanxxx
Profile Joined February 2009
United States408 Posts
March 22 2009 07:05 GMT
#1575
omfg wow...... can't wait to watch these games. nice job JD you beast
If people arent trying to pull you down, you arent climbing high enough.
boxxyownz
Profile Joined February 2009
United States103 Posts
March 22 2009 07:07 GMT
#1576
On March 22 2009 15:20 GTR wrote:
It doesn't even matter if you are playing Flash on Rush Hour 3. You are still Jaedong.

Holy fuck.

zzz
EternaLEnVy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada513 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-22 07:30:32
March 22 2009 07:08 GMT
#1577
edit: dasdlasdlsadal
Hell in my head
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17730 Posts
March 22 2009 07:09 GMT
#1578
On March 22 2009 15:50 WindCalibur wrote:
is it just me or it seemed like flash couldn't keep up with Jaedong last game in terms of multitasking?

Thats flash's biggest weakness imo late game tvz his multitask sort of lacks. Really shows against players like jaedong.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
hixhix
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1156 Posts
March 22 2009 07:10 GMT
#1579
On March 22 2009 15:53 BisuBoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 15:51 ssj114 wrote:
On March 22 2009 15:50 WindCalibur wrote:
is it just me or it seemed like flash couldn't keep up with Jaedong last game in terms of multitasking?


Wouldn't be surprised. Jaedong has the best multi-tasking of this protoss era.


I agree. Flash's multitask started to fall behind in the late game. The one part that stands out in my mind is when he had like a ctrl group of rines attacking the defiler under the swarm, then Flash noticed it and moved toward the min line to take out the other defiler and drones. At the last second JD throws down another swarm with his 2nd defiler, saves the defiler, then rushes in with lings and rapes all the rines with zero losses. Flash's marines just stood there shooting into the swarm the whole time... Numerous other times too with SVs out of position after irradiates, and just endless amounts of rines dying to lurker spines :-S. Godly play by both, but JD earned that win for sure.


No, Flash didnt move the marines on purpose. He wanted to trade that little army with the hatch.
ambit!ous1
Profile Joined September 2007
United States3662 Posts
March 22 2009 07:11 GMT
#1580
Jaedong all kill

i'm not surprised

GJ JD!
Bisu[Shield] / ♔ SoYeon
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