EPTOn March 15 2009 15:26 StylishVODs wrote:
since 14 nexus is only autolose to 8raxprox its not a cheese..
since 14 nexus is only autolose to 8raxprox its not a cheese..
Exactlyy, 14cc-> bunker can defend everything but a proxy.
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Exactlyy, 14cc-> bunker can defend everything but a proxy. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
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usopsama
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maareek
United States2042 Posts
On March 15 2009 15:24 Avidkeystamper wrote: If someone 14CCs, why don't they at least scout, honestly! If you've decided to 14 CC, there's not much point. If they do a build that would make you not want to 14 CC, you'll still be fucked by the time you scout it. It's a build you decide before the game starts, not one that relies on the opponent. | ||
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Xstatic
United States765 Posts
On March 15 2009 15:26 abakben wrote: Wow I can not believe all the Fantasy hate. When Hoejja used a cheese it was beautiful but when Fantasy used it, it was lame. Not when you get fangirls cheering for you to win ^^ It's not lame. It was unexpected, fresh and a completely valid response to Flash's opening. Now Fantasy needs to clinch the final match! | ||
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Rostam
United States2552 Posts
On March 15 2009 15:25 Hot_Bid wrote: i love the fanboys who are like "it's a BO loss" if someone does 14cc and loses constantly with it, you can't possibly say its a "BO loss" when you're up hugely if the build succeeds. 14cc is just a huge gamble, the risk is built into the build, you can't just be like "oh its lucky that the other player tried to keep me honest" lolol i love it when 14cc or 14nex dies horribly BBS is a huge gamble too, I'm not saying it's luck that Fantasy won but it's not the kind of situation where people can just BBS Flash every game and win by default. He made a calculated risk, Fantasy made a calculated risk, Fantasy's happened to pay off while Flash's fucked him over. People are just pretending it's 2008 and saying Flash needs to stop 14ccing, which is just ridiculous because its really not that bad an idea to throw in once in a while in TvT. But, I mean...it was a BO loss. | ||
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eatmyshorts5
United States1530 Posts
What is your problem guys. THIS GUY ALMOST WON A STARLEAGE. He almost became a royal roader. | ||
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JIJIyO
Canada1957 Posts
Forgg: Yo Flash, why didn't you learn after I raped your 14ccs? | ||
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Lebesgue
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36402 Posts
On March 15 2009 15:28 Rostam wrote: BBS is a huge gamble too, I'm not saying it's luck that Fantasy won but it's not the kind of situation where people can just BBS Flash every game and win by default. He made a calculated risk, Fantasy made a calculated risk, Fantasy's happened to pay off while Flash's fucked him over. People are just pretending it's 2008 and saying Flash needs to stop 14ccing, which is just ridiculous because its really not that bad an idea to throw in once in a while in TvT. But, I mean...it was a BO loss. no, flash doing 14cc is ridiculously stupid. can you explain why flash 14ccs so much? he's a superior player who doesn't need these risky, stupid build orders to win, especially in TvT. just do a standard, safe build order and let your skills do the work flash, why go for the cheap advantage? its seriously really stupid. | ||
LosingID8
CA10835 Posts
On March 15 2009 15:25 Hot_Bid wrote: i love the fanboys who are like "it's a BO loss" if someone does 14cc and loses constantly with it, you can't possibly say its a "BO loss" when you're up hugely if the build succeeds. 14cc is just a huge gamble, the risk is built into the build, you can't just be like "oh its lucky that the other player tried to keep me honest" lolol i love it when 14cc or 14nex dies horribly yeah except somehow 14nex is a counter to 2fact -_-; | ||
Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
On March 15 2009 15:26 StylishVODs wrote: since 14 nexus is only autolose to 8raxprox its not a cheese.. careful when using the term "autoloss", it's mis- and overused most of the time -.- | ||
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broz0rs
United States2294 Posts
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Puosu
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On March 15 2009 15:28 Rostam wrote: BBS is a huge gamble too, I'm not saying it's luck that Fantasy won but it's not the kind of situation where people can just BBS Flash every game and win by default. He made a calculated risk, Fantasy made a calculated risk, Fantasy's happened to pay off while Flash's fucked him over. People are just pretending it's 2008 and saying Flash needs to stop 14ccing, which is just ridiculous because its really not that bad an idea to throw in once in a while in TvT. Fantasys build was not BBS was it? Just 8rax before supply and then kind of standard continuation I think it was. | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
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Shengster
United States167 Posts
On March 15 2009 15:28 Rostam wrote: BBS is a huge gamble too, I'm not saying it's luck that Fantasy won but it's not the kind of situation where people can just BBS Flash every game and win by default. He made a calculated risk, Fantasy made a calculated risk, Fantasy's happened to pay off while Flash's fucked him over. People are just pretending it's 2008 and saying Flash needs to stop 14ccing, which is just ridiculous because its really not that bad an idea to throw in once in a while in TvT. I fully agree with this. Fantasy knew the chances of him winning by playing standard were low. His cheese was a calculated risk that paid off. | ||
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
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eatmyshorts5
United States1530 Posts
On March 15 2009 15:28 Lebesgue wrote: Ok Lux. You gotta rape that dude. And then bring us an epic battle against BeSt on Medusa. Probably won't be very epic considering Best's performance latley. | ||
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Weaponx3
Canada232 Posts
 , watch out luxury | ||
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GeLaar
2421 Posts
I like Fantasy. More and more, with every game he wins. The more consistent he becomes, the more I like him. And I hope he uses the Valk build every single TvZ as long as it works. I don't see why nobody is bashing Flash for being so fucking predictable. Even Bisu said he now felt comfortable playing him, because Flash is so stubborn and insist on sticking to the same build. Anyway, getting side-tracked. Go Fantasy! | ||
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