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[WL] CJ Entus vs Hwaseung OZ - Page 61

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Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
February 14 2009 13:57 GMT
#1201
we need a backho allkill!!
Freedom will be defended at the cost of civil liberties.
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
February 14 2009 17:58 GMT
#1202
thanks mr hoon! you rule!!

Okay. ive been thinking about it and HAD to say this. so (T)sKyHigh did some pretty serious cheese. but, if you read mrHoon's fine translation, we can see that the perfection of the cheese was a result of a week of intensive practice on that map alone, against that specific player. certainly, this isnt Jaedongs loss, he walked into a trap, essentially.

whos fault is it? OZ didnt have the depth to deal with CJ. if OZ had more depth, maybe CJ wouldnt have been able to forsee that (Z)Jaedong would be trying to stave off elimination for his team, on this map. but they obviuosly were able to see that it was going to happen and prepared accordingly.

CJ had multiple scenerios for closing out this series, and apprently, OZ Only had one realistic one.

although, ill admit, (T)HiyA is a badass and it was unlikely, but certianly possible, that he could have got an all-kill on CJ.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
Misrah
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1695 Posts
February 14 2009 18:15 GMT
#1203
god i hate terran cheese.

Go die skyhigh
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-14 18:21:39
February 14 2009 18:21 GMT
#1204
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
February 14 2009 18:23 GMT
#1205
I dunno, JD vs Suny and Hwasin vs Luxury aren't exactly yawnfests. Long TvZ games are rarely boring if you have two decent players. TvT and sometimes TvP can be.
Jaedong
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-14 19:02:19
February 14 2009 19:02 GMT
#1206
Skyhigh knew he couldnt beatJaedong straight up so he cheesed him again, on a TvZ map. That is far from impressive

Terran cheese is the gayest thing about starcraft. They're already imba enough without cheese from just the cost efficiency and scv 60 life crap, and add terran cheese to that and you get 10 years of Terran dominating Zerg in starcraft.

Terran > Zerg, fact of Starcraft. Quote me
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
February 14 2009 19:06 GMT
#1207
On February 15 2009 04:02 AzureEye wrote:
Skyhigh knew he couldnt beatJaedong straight up so he cheesed him again, on a TvZ map. That is far from impressive

Terran cheese is the gayest thing about starcraft. They're already imba enough without cheese from just the cost efficiency and scv 60 life crap, and add terran cheese to that and you get 10 years of Terran dominating Zerg in starcraft.

Terran > Zerg, fact of Starcraft. Quote me

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dats racist
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 14 2009 19:37 GMT
#1208
On February 15 2009 04:02 AzureEye wrote:
Skyhigh knew he couldnt beatJaedong straight up so he cheesed him again, on a TvZ map. That is far from impressive

Terran cheese is the gayest thing about starcraft. They're already imba enough without cheese from just the cost efficiency and scv 60 life crap, and add terran cheese to that and you get 10 years of Terran dominating Zerg in starcraft.

Terran > Zerg, fact of Starcraft. Quote me


What's impressive is that he can use his brain to think up a creative rush that Jaedong didn't know how to respond too, rather than win by brute forcing his 300+ apm.
RIP Aaliyah
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
February 14 2009 19:41 GMT
#1209
On February 15 2009 04:02 AzureEye wrote:
Skyhigh knew he couldnt beatJaedong straight up so he cheesed him again, on a TvZ map. That is far from impressive

Terran cheese is the gayest thing about starcraft. They're already imba enough without cheese from just the cost efficiency and scv 60 life crap, and add terran cheese to that and you get 10 years of Terran dominating Zerg in starcraft.

Terran > Zerg, fact of Starcraft. Quote me


You don't earn a late game just for joining the game, you earn it by performing in your early game well enough to be able to carry your late game advantage. It is stupid to think that fighting against your opponents strength is a good idea. A lot of people here would fail at strategy.

I don't know about you but the second skyhigh was selected at least 10 people in this forum screamed "SNIPER". It was so blatantly obvious that skyhigh had some sort of specific build for Jaedong on this map that Jaedong himself had to know... so what does he do? He goes 12 hatch and doesn't scout which is pretty much begging to get hit hard by early pressure. That is exactly what happened.

No one to blame here but Oz and their lineup not performing so they don't have to rely on Jaedong. Two days before this match even forum goers knew that Oz would have to send out Jaedong last and rely on him to finish a match out being in a deficit because of the depth CJ has recently been showing. Fact of life and a fact of the game.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Misrah
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1695 Posts
February 14 2009 20:09 GMT
#1210
Still. I give it to skyhigh, it was brilliant. But that doesn't mean i have to like it. I'm a zerg lover first, Cj fan second.
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
February 14 2009 20:26 GMT
#1211
Jaedong always gets screwed by these things. It's his fault, really.
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
February 14 2009 20:27 GMT
#1212
I agree he is to blame for not scouting on a map like destination, but proxy can mean anywhere on the map since T buildings have the advantage of being able to move, you can't expect drone to search everywhere for something that might not be there and waste mining time compared to what an scv scouts

Anyhow, Skyhigh is still a dick for taking away Savior vs Jaedong highlight match
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
February 14 2009 20:30 GMT
#1213
On February 15 2009 05:27 AzureEye wrote:
Anyhow, Skyhigh is still a dick for taking away Savior vs Jaedong highlight match


God, you cry about everything... How about you give him credit for taking down the #1 Zerg? Jesus...
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AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
February 14 2009 20:36 GMT
#1214
On February 15 2009 05:30 SilverskY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2009 05:27 AzureEye wrote:
Anyhow, Skyhigh is still a dick for taking away Savior vs Jaedong highlight match


God, you cry about everything... How about you give him credit for taking down the #1 Zerg? Jesus...


I never said I didn't give him credit. The kid planned his cheese for a week and practiced for it. I just called him a dick for taking away a possible match. Whats wrong with that?
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
February 14 2009 20:39 GMT
#1215
Savior vs. Jaedong probably wouldn't be epic at all. That game on Desert Fox was like that largely due to the odd nature of the map.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
February 14 2009 20:39 GMT
#1216
On February 15 2009 05:36 AzureEye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2009 05:30 SilverskY wrote:
On February 15 2009 05:27 AzureEye wrote:
Anyhow, Skyhigh is still a dick for taking away Savior vs Jaedong highlight match


God, you cry about everything... How about you give him credit for taking down the #1 Zerg? Jesus...


I never said I didn't give him credit. The kid planned his cheese for a week and practiced for it. I just called him a dick for taking away a possible match. Whats wrong with that?

It's as much Jaedong's "fault" (if we can even use that word to describe this) for not making it to the Ace match. I don't see how you can pin the blame on only one party involved.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 14 2009 20:39 GMT
#1217
that was very good cheese i must say
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
February 14 2009 20:46 GMT
#1218
I personally think thats pimpest play worthy, or at least honorable mention
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
February 14 2009 20:47 GMT
#1219
On February 15 2009 05:36 AzureEye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2009 05:30 SilverskY wrote:
On February 15 2009 05:27 AzureEye wrote:
Anyhow, Skyhigh is still a dick for taking away Savior vs Jaedong highlight match


God, you cry about everything... How about you give him credit for taking down the #1 Zerg? Jesus...


I never said I didn't give him credit. The kid planned his cheese for a week and practiced for it. I just called him a dick for taking away a possible match. Whats wrong with that?

Wow you whine so much AND you call Terran imbalanced AND you place blame on SkyHigh. What the hell do you want him to do? Play straight up and lose? Would YOU do that if you were in his place?
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
x89titan
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Philippines1130 Posts
February 14 2009 21:05 GMT
#1220
i dont get jaedong. he scouts sunny's proxy but not skyhigh's proxy. but that fake bunker rush at the nat was awesome. jd was oblivious the whole game.
Heaven came down and glory filled my soul, when at the cross the Savior made me whole
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