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kaleidoscope
Singapore2887 Posts
On February 14 2009 16:37 p4NDemik wrote: oh man all of us CJ fans are going to get sooooo cocky now ... I mean who can stop this team? They look indestructible. There's one... my DREAM TEAM =DDDDDD | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On February 14 2009 16:34 QibingZero wrote: To be fair, those players also showed the ability to play well in every other aspect of the game. When Jaedong loses to players like Frozean and Skyhigh in the early game, it's only natural that the general fan (probably correctly) assumes those players couldn't normally beat him otherwise. I don't understand why people believe that everyone is automatically entitled to a mid-late game play. If you don't survive through the early game then it's over. This is exactly what happened with Best - July. Best has terrible early/mid game and great late game. I don't understand why you would play to your opponents strength when there is money/record/etc on the line. But yea I know where the response is coming from, I just don't understand it. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On February 14 2009 16:35 Avidkeystamper wrote: We've already stopped, can the CJ fans stop Bitching about us bitching? it's not about "fans". It's about people complaining JD got cheesed like every game of Starcraft should only start after the 5 minute mark and units should only be used to fight straight up. It's ANNOYING to read the shit 3 pages straight. We should all complain that mech is cheese vs Zerg and FE into sair is cheese vs Zerg too right? TL should be more versed in SC strat to know better than this. | ||
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x89titan
Philippines1130 Posts
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
On February 14 2009 16:36 Ace wrote: I think it's amazing CJ used an All Terran lineup when Savior and Effort are sitting there able to rape. In this match, this is due to three factors: 1) The general map pool favors terrans and 2) vT is generally the worst or middle MU for all the players on Lecaf excluding Backho, and 3) vZ is generall the best or middle MU for their 3 current aces. I'm not acting condescending toward, just pointing out some things. If it was CJ vs SKT on zerg favored maps, I'm sure Kwanro/Savior/Effort would be getting a lot of playtime. | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On February 14 2009 16:38 Ace wrote: it's not about "fans". It's about people complaining JD got cheesed like every game of Starcraft should only start after the 5 minute mark and units should only be used to fight straight up. It's ANNOYING to read the shit 3 pages straight. We should all complain that mech is cheese vs Zerg and FE into sair is cheese vs Zerg too right? TL should be more versed in SC strat to know better than this. TWENTY MINUTE NO RUSH GUYS | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
On February 14 2009 16:38 Ace wrote: it's not about "fans". It's about people complaining JD got cheesed like every game of Starcraft should only start after the 5 minute mark and units should only be used to fight straight up. It's ANNOYING to read the shit 3 pages straight. We should all complain that mech is cheese vs Zerg and FE into sair is cheese vs Zerg too right? TL should be more versed in SC strat to know better than this. You're complaining because of 3 pages of anger. That's expected, it's the instinct after someone's favorite player loses to cheese, no matter how brilliant. Be thankful it hasn't continued past 3 pages. I honestly don't know what you're expecting, I haven't read one post about how anything is Overpowered. | ||
MrHoon
10183 Posts
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
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FearDarkness
United States519 Posts
On February 14 2009 16:37 p4NDemik wrote: oh man all of us CJ fans are going to get sooooo cocky now ... I mean who can stop this team? They look indestructible. Has CJ played KTF yet? I'd like to see how that'd pan out. Samsung Kahn and SKT1 are 2/3 of their next matches so they'll be entering dragon territory. STX also has a pretty deep line up so i'm planning to watch all of CJ's games  | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
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Ideas
United States8148 Posts
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ccou
United States681 Posts
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Trumpet
United States1935 Posts
Was he just trying to autopilot through this game as best he could to play the ace without being mentally exhausted? Can't help but feel bad for him though when his team relies on him so damn much. CJ on the other hand always seems to be developing new talented players. If their lineup is week for a few months, it's the deepest lineup in proleague afterward. Can't help but love it ^^ | ||
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FearDarkness
United States519 Posts
I think Flash has what it takes to take out the Terran and Zerg heavy line-up of CJ. Doubt Movie can do much against him | ||
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rredtooth
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p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
On February 14 2009 16:42 FearDarkness wrote: Has CJ played KTF yet? I'd like to see how that'd pan out. Samsung Kahn and SKT1 are 2/3 of their next matches so they'll be entering dragon territory. STX also has a pretty deep line up so i'm planning to watch all of CJ's games I really don't see STX as much of a threat at this point. Their players are all for the most part very easy to pick off, as they all have specific matchups that they are really weak in. Kal is very vulnerable to any of CJ's Terrans considering the map pool, July is an easy snipe with sAviOr and EffOrt's ZvZ prowess. Hwasin may prove difficult depending on the maps, but he's far from untouchable. I could go on. Point being that for most of STX's lineup, CJ has a simple response that puts them in a very good position to take that player out. I can see KTFlash giving CJ really trouble, and SKT might have a chance, but I think CJ can also handle KHAN just as easily as they can handle STX imo. | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17732 Posts
On February 14 2009 13:12 allowicious wrote: LOL SIGN "i came from new york to see ma jae yoon win" who was that? that was quickstriker The i came from england to see ma jae yoon lose was elric ^^ On February 14 2009 16:32 deathgod6 wrote: Hey, he actually got some airtime. Nice, but no TL reference. Look at the top of his sign | ||
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
- Your team has 6 wins in a row ▲ Because of what happened on the MBCgame match, we got to 3rd place in PL score. For that I am very happy - When winner's league started, did you expect this? ▲ I didn't expect 6 wins in a row. During rounds 1 and 2, we were at the lowest point, but the new players of our team did their best, and soon at 3rd round they started to do amazing. - What makes your team so strong in Teamleague format? ▲ Alot of people say we're better because we dominated the old Teamleagues, but the environment is alot different than before. Ofcourse it would be a lie to say my experiences with it didn't help but one of the main reasons why we're doing good is because my players has experienced everything. And ofcourse our fans have always been so great to us. - You used your terran card alot today ▲ Using only the terran line wasn't something planned on today. Its just that all my terran players said they were confident to play today and they had evaluated all the maps and possibilities of every player. Especially SkyHigh, he knew Jaedong would play today on destination so all he did was practice on that map. Also, Memory and Iris did their jobs perfectly to drag the game to Destination and let SkyHigh finish it up. Everything worked perfectly and Skyhigh did exceptionally well with his part. - When did SkyHigh start practicing sniping Jaedong? ▲ Skyhigh was practicing how to snipe Jaedong for a full week. Coach KIMDONGWOO said Jaedong will appear on Destination no matter what, so all our teammates helped SkyHigh practice just for this set. - It looks like you can get into post season with results like these now ▲ All our fans always said we will make it to the playoffs, but we always failed and dissapointed them over and over again. My players knew this and always felt bad for the fans. So this seaon, we tried to reach for something higher than normal. If we can enter the Winner's League Playoffs, I think it will mean something big for us. There are so many new players in our team who are experiencing how leagues work who couldn't experience this previously, like Effort, SkyHigh and Movie. I believe this will make these 3 players ready and prepared for rounds 4 and 5. - Next is STX ▲ Before we came here today, I had a talk with the team. I told them even if we lose, this is no easy team so lets not get bummed out, but instead think of this as a good experience when we lose. So I told them not to worry about it too much. STX is no easy team, but we will show our good performance against them too. - Iris and Savior are coming back, you must be very happy ▲ For that, I am very thankful for them. During rounds 1 and 2, all the old players lost their chance to play because of the new players so I am pretty sure they were dissapointed. I think after they saw these new players take over their spots in teams the old decided to shape up and try harder. They are trying reall hard now and they bring the team up morally too now. Words cannot express how happy I am. - Goals for Winner's League? ▲ First of all I am very happy we defeated the strongest Hwaseung Oz. Today's victory was such a great victory, but still it is only 1 victory. We will do our best with the remaining 5 winner's league games, and I hope we can show the same performance during rounds 4 and 5. Everyday we dream of the finals in Busan and we will do our best to reach to that point. And lastly, I want to thank our dedicated fans who always kept with us. We will do our best to show you good games. | ||
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bias-
United States410 Posts
On February 14 2009 17:11 MrHoon wrote: No player interview, Instead, Coach Cho! - When did SkyHigh start practicing sniping Jaedong? ▲ Skyhigh was practicing how to snipe Jaedong for a full week. Coach KIMDONGWOO said Jaedong will appear on Destination no matter what, so all our teammates helped SkyHigh practice just for this set. Poor Jaedong but great job CJ. Their teamplay is so good. | ||
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