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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 14 2009 21:31 GMT
#1221
Wow, why all the hate towards Skyhigh? He pulls off a brilliant cheese and people complain about imba and such. I love Zerg and JD, but if you really want to blame someone for that game, blame JD. He knows he should be able to beat Skyhigh straight-up, he knows that Skyhigh knows that. So he, first, doesn't scout, second, goes for a 12-hatch, and third, responds really bad. I don't know what it was, but he sent about 6-7 drones to defend instead of his usual 4 as well. Was there something wrong with the bunker timing? He didn't think it was strange that no marines appeared?

In any case, there's this part of Starcraft called the early game, that you have to get through to get into the late game. If you can't, you lose. It's kind of funny how Jaedong always keeps losing to cheese although his strenghts play straight into the early game.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Amarxist
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States371 Posts
February 14 2009 22:03 GMT
#1222
The amount of crying in this thread is truly astounding, I'm very much enjoying it actually. Real talk though, people need to accept all strategies and aspects of the game, cheese or macro play. If you can't accept them as a valid means of winning you have a lot of learn about competition and winning. Get over it.
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[AhunGrY]MelOn
Profile Joined November 2008
United States357 Posts
February 14 2009 22:19 GMT
#1223
bah it annoys me how so many "cj fans" are actually savior fans and dont give a shit about cj
RaiSad
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States325 Posts
February 14 2009 22:31 GMT
#1224
On February 15 2009 07:19 [AhunGrY]MelOn wrote:
bah it annoys me how so many "cj fans" are actually savior fans and dont give a shit about cj


yeah it's kind of annoying. I'm a sAviOr's fans too but as much as I wanted to see MJY to play, I knew it was much better if CJ could take down Jaedong as soon as possible. If Jaedong could go to game 7 then CL would lose the advantages and no one could tell what would happen.

So I'm happy to see Skyhigh won over Jaedong, even it was a cheese.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
February 14 2009 22:34 GMT
#1225
On February 15 2009 02:58 cUrsOr wrote:


although, ill admit, (T)HiyA is a badass and it was unlikely, but certianly possible, that he could have got an all-kill on CJ.



not at all. Hiya really just isn't as great as people proclaim him to be
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Hydrolisko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Vanuatu1659 Posts
February 14 2009 22:39 GMT
#1226
why has the video been removed???
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 14 2009 22:41 GMT
#1227
On February 15 2009 07:39 Hydrolisko wrote:
why has the video been removed???

I watched it hours ago and it worked fine. I am watching it again now and it still works just perfectly. Unless you mean some other video that I'm unaware of.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
February 14 2009 22:42 GMT
#1228
On February 15 2009 07:34 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2009 02:58 cUrsOr wrote:


although, ill admit, (T)HiyA is a badass and it was unlikely, but certianly possible, that he could have got an all-kill on CJ.



not at all. Hiya really just isn't as great as people proclaim him to be


I don't think Hiya is that bad at all but he does have a pretty run of the mill TvT and he does require momentum to actually start winning matches.
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Hydrolisko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Vanuatu1659 Posts
February 14 2009 22:44 GMT
#1229
On February 15 2009 07:41 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2009 07:39 Hydrolisko wrote:
why has the video been removed???

I watched it hours ago and it worked fine. I am watching it again now and it still works just perfectly. Unless you mean some other video that I'm unaware of.


on youtube? can you link me? It says user has removed video for me.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-14 22:53:53
February 14 2009 22:52 GMT
#1230
On February 15 2009 07:44 Hydrolisko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2009 07:41 Shikyo wrote:
On February 15 2009 07:39 Hydrolisko wrote:
why has the video been removed???

I watched it hours ago and it worked fine. I am watching it again now and it still works just perfectly. Unless you mean some other video that I'm unaware of.


on youtube? can you link me? It says user has removed video for me.

Why would you try to find the videos on youtube when www.youku.com has all the videos up like an hour after the matches are done?

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNzIwMTMzNzI=.html

Link to the first match of CJ vs Lecaf.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
s_86
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States191 Posts
February 14 2009 23:01 GMT
#1231
Link to Skyhigh Vs Jaedong on Destination on youku.com:
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNzIwMzA2NzY=.html
Enjoy!!
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14899 Posts
February 14 2009 23:20 GMT
#1232
sent 3 terrans in a row? crazy
Phrujbaz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Netherlands512 Posts
February 14 2009 23:21 GMT
#1233
On February 15 2009 08:01 s_86 wrote:
Link to Skyhigh Vs Jaedong on Destination on youku.com:
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNzIwMzA2NzY=.html
Enjoy!!

Thanks!
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Veleek
Profile Joined February 2009
United States6 Posts
February 14 2009 23:25 GMT
#1234
On February 15 2009 05:27 AzureEye wrote:
I agree he is to blame for not scouting on a map like destination, but proxy can mean anywhere on the map since T buildings have the advantage of being able to move, you can't expect drone to search everywhere for something that might not be there and waste mining time compared to what an scv scouts

Anyhow, Skyhigh is still a dick for taking away Savior vs Jaedong highlight match


You don't really need to know where the proxy is. You just need to get into the Terran's base, do some math to see if something is amiss, and take appropriate measures if need be.

While a bit of blame falls on the rest of the Oz lineup and coaching calls, I'm surprised Jaedong wasn't paranoid during this match in regards to scouting. He fell right into CJ's trap. They practically had an assassin sneak into his booth and stab him.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
February 15 2009 00:01 GMT
#1235
On February 15 2009 06:31 Shikyo wrote:
Wow, why all the hate towards Skyhigh? He pulls off a brilliant cheese and people complain about imba and such. I love Zerg and JD, but if you really want to blame someone for that game, blame JD. He knows he should be able to beat Skyhigh straight-up, he knows that Skyhigh knows that. So he, first, doesn't scout, second, goes for a 12-hatch, and third, responds really bad. I don't know what it was, but he sent about 6-7 drones to defend instead of his usual 4 as well. Was there something wrong with the bunker timing? He didn't think it was strange that no marines appeared?

In any case, there's this part of Starcraft called the early game, that you have to get through to get into the late game. If you can't, you lose. It's kind of funny how Jaedong always keeps losing to cheese although his strenghts play straight into the early game.


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On February 15 2009 07:19 [AhunGrY]MelOn wrote:
bah it annoys me how so many "cj fans" are actually savior fans and dont give a shit about cj
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-15 00:13:56
February 15 2009 00:12 GMT
#1236
On February 15 2009 06:31 Shikyo wrote:
Wow, why all the hate towards Skyhigh? He pulls off a brilliant cheese and people complain about imba and such. I love Zerg and JD, but if you really want to blame someone for that game, blame JD. He knows he should be able to beat Skyhigh straight-up, he knows that Skyhigh knows that. So he, first, doesn't scout, second, goes for a 12-hatch, and third, responds really bad. I don't know what it was, but he sent about 6-7 drones to defend instead of his usual 4 as well. Was there something wrong with the bunker timing? He didn't think it was strange that no marines appeared?

In any case, there's this part of Starcraft called the early game, that you have to get through to get into the late game. If you can't, you lose. It's kind of funny how Jaedong always keeps losing to cheese although his strenghts play straight into the early game.

On February 15 2009 07:03 Amarxist wrote:
The amount of crying in this thread is truly astounding, I'm very much enjoying it actually. Real talk though, people need to accept all strategies and aspects of the game, cheese or macro play. If you can't accept them as a valid means of winning you have a lot of learn about competition and winning. Get over it.

It's just one guy, CJ fans are just as bad. You guys aren't matyrs or something, only one person has complained in about half a day. Get over it. We aren't obssessing or anything, so why are you? One person does not speak for the rest of us.
Jaedong
amorpheus
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria2144 Posts
February 15 2009 00:25 GMT
#1237
good games
better luck next time jd
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-15 01:55:49
February 15 2009 01:55 GMT
#1238
On February 15 2009 09:12 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2009 06:31 Shikyo wrote:
Wow, why all the hate towards Skyhigh? He pulls off a brilliant cheese and people complain about imba and such. I love Zerg and JD, but if you really want to blame someone for that game, blame JD. He knows he should be able to beat Skyhigh straight-up, he knows that Skyhigh knows that. So he, first, doesn't scout, second, goes for a 12-hatch, and third, responds really bad. I don't know what it was, but he sent about 6-7 drones to defend instead of his usual 4 as well. Was there something wrong with the bunker timing? He didn't think it was strange that no marines appeared?

In any case, there's this part of Starcraft called the early game, that you have to get through to get into the late game. If you can't, you lose. It's kind of funny how Jaedong always keeps losing to cheese although his strenghts play straight into the early game.

Show nested quote +
On February 15 2009 07:03 Amarxist wrote:
The amount of crying in this thread is truly astounding, I'm very much enjoying it actually. Real talk though, people need to accept all strategies and aspects of the game, cheese or macro play. If you can't accept them as a valid means of winning you have a lot of learn about competition and winning. Get over it.

It's just one guy, CJ fans are just as bad. You guys aren't matyrs or something, only one person has complained in about half a day. Get over it. We aren't obssessing or anything, so why are you? One person does not speak for the rest of us.

I think it's two now.

edit: Dnno about CJ fans, mostly it's the savior fans being silly.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
February 15 2009 01:57 GMT
#1239
Things seem to have quieted down. Peace at last I hope.
Jaedong
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
February 15 2009 02:06 GMT
#1240
Wow, very nice!!! I got mentioned in this thread couple of times along with a picture of me with a sign, haha! But yea, the games were really nice, I did hope for Savior to come up (thus the sign) but nonetheless, it was actually better than what I expected... I should be making a thread about my first experience (or a blog) regarding my first ever trip to a live SC match but for now, I gotta go so.... yea... GG!
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