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Proposal
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1310 Posts
January 09 2009 11:04 GMT
#301
Oh well his peak was good while it lasted!
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 09 2009 11:05 GMT
#302
LOL my Fantasy OSL team had Mind and Bisu

well Im fucked lool
dats racist
darkemperor
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Turkey725 Posts
January 09 2009 11:05 GMT
#303
why bisu why
#1 Kim Taek Yong Fan <3 || Legend of the Fall // Fall of the Legend
antiq
Profile Joined June 2008
Slovakia191 Posts
January 09 2009 11:05 GMT
#304
This is off topic guys, but can someone confirm that the VLC stream is more than 220KBps? If so, tough luck for me, damn this location and it's crappy internet services.
KreaGata
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1702 Posts
January 09 2009 11:05 GMT
#305
Haha, wow.
the truest opportunists thrive in the maelstrom
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
January 09 2009 11:05 GMT
#306
On January 09 2009 19:59 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2009 19:55 AttackZerg wrote:
On January 09 2009 19:52 MrHoon wrote:
On January 09 2009 19:50 AttackZerg wrote:
On January 09 2009 19:46 MrHoon wrote:
On January 09 2009 19:45 AttackZerg wrote:
Heros's strategic transitions in game 2 were fucking sick. I have no clue why every terran who isn't in the top 3-4 terrans isn't going mech. I mean even upmagic is now beating jaedong .....

according to Flash, against smart players it gets very difficult to use Mech

And cmon, you have to admit JD played terribly against Upmagic.



I don't consider by.hero a smart player. I think lower tier terrans should use it by default.

Jaedong plays terribly most games against mech. So does savior/july/luxur and effort. I think mech is a good idea for most terranns

Eh, JD does have a bad history with mech I guess but Flash (who brought back the use of Mech build) has more games lost using mech than won (lol). I dunno, when Luxury played against Mech he actually did a pretty good job beating it down at MST.



Check our luxury vs Forgg, then watch jaedong vs flash from the same day, terran did the same build both games . In the mst he(lux) was super solid I agree.

Where do you get your 'Mech' stats from flash? I am pretty sure they might be wrong.

No stats lol, just guessed considering he lost alot of games using Mech in Zerg these days (including last season)

The thing about KTF vs Lecaf team is that the whole Lecaf team was trying to figure out how to fight back Mech build, and the best solution they came up with was "Deflect the first vulture wave by blocking 2nd hatch entrance using Evo Chambers and every building". And JD vs Flash, since it was the same build JD knew there is a very very small timing hole within that build. However, the only thing Flash did different was he built a CC instead of building an engineering bay widening the vulnerability which JD exploited.

btw what are we talking about?



I was talking about how low level terrans need to use mech. Then we talked about jaedong being bad against mech then you made up incorrect stats about flash () then you talked about the differences between flash and forgg's play.

Overall I think mech gives terran a better chance against top tier zergs. You go valks and you take away insane muta control. You go mech and you take away insane defiler skills. You go mech and zerg has to guess about which variation your doing since there are so many.

I hold to my argument that terrans who aren't in the elite should be using mech style of play.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 09 2009 11:06 GMT
#307
On January 09 2009 20:05 AttackZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2009 19:59 MrHoon wrote:
On January 09 2009 19:55 AttackZerg wrote:
On January 09 2009 19:52 MrHoon wrote:
On January 09 2009 19:50 AttackZerg wrote:
On January 09 2009 19:46 MrHoon wrote:
On January 09 2009 19:45 AttackZerg wrote:
Heros's strategic transitions in game 2 were fucking sick. I have no clue why every terran who isn't in the top 3-4 terrans isn't going mech. I mean even upmagic is now beating jaedong .....

according to Flash, against smart players it gets very difficult to use Mech

And cmon, you have to admit JD played terribly against Upmagic.



I don't consider by.hero a smart player. I think lower tier terrans should use it by default.

Jaedong plays terribly most games against mech. So does savior/july/luxur and effort. I think mech is a good idea for most terranns

Eh, JD does have a bad history with mech I guess but Flash (who brought back the use of Mech build) has more games lost using mech than won (lol). I dunno, when Luxury played against Mech he actually did a pretty good job beating it down at MST.



Check our luxury vs Forgg, then watch jaedong vs flash from the same day, terran did the same build both games . In the mst he(lux) was super solid I agree.

Where do you get your 'Mech' stats from flash? I am pretty sure they might be wrong.

No stats lol, just guessed considering he lost alot of games using Mech in Zerg these days (including last season)

The thing about KTF vs Lecaf team is that the whole Lecaf team was trying to figure out how to fight back Mech build, and the best solution they came up with was "Deflect the first vulture wave by blocking 2nd hatch entrance using Evo Chambers and every building". And JD vs Flash, since it was the same build JD knew there is a very very small timing hole within that build. However, the only thing Flash did different was he built a CC instead of building an engineering bay widening the vulnerability which JD exploited.

btw what are we talking about?



I was talking about how low level terrans need to use mech. Then we talked about jaedong being bad against mech then you made up incorrect stats about flash () then you talked about the differences between flash and forgg's play.

Overall I think mech gives terran a better chance against top tier zergs. You go valks and you take away insane muta control. You go mech and you take away insane defiler skills. You go mech and zerg has to guess about which variation your doing since there are so many.

I hold to my argument that terrans who aren't in the elite should be using mech style of play.


Oh right, if that was what we were talking about I should've agreed with you
Dunno why I disagreed with you.
dats racist
Patrio
Profile Joined September 2007
Norway706 Posts
January 09 2009 11:06 GMT
#308
This is carma for (P)Bisu fucking up the MSL group selection. This will be further proved when he goes 0-2 in his group and (Z)sAviOr and (Z)maGma advances
Zerg Bunker
DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
January 09 2009 11:06 GMT
#309
On January 09 2009 20:05 MrHoon wrote:
LOL my Fantasy OSL team had Mind and Bisu

well Im fucked lool


I have HoeJJa and Bisu, and I lost HoeJJa the same time that you lost Mind.
parasite
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
January 09 2009 11:06 GMT
#310
wow at 538 apm
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Baddieko
Profile Joined October 2008
Singapore855 Posts
January 09 2009 11:06 GMT
#311
the next 2 maps are P maps. Bisu not out yet.
traced
Profile Joined October 2007
1739 Posts
January 09 2009 11:07 GMT
#312
damn, did bisu not know there was a backdoor or what
machinebloodprogram
Profile Joined December 2008
United States245 Posts
January 09 2009 11:07 GMT
#313
On January 09 2009 20:05 antiq wrote:
This is off topic guys, but can someone confirm that the VLC stream is more than 220KBps? If so, tough luck for me, damn this location and it's crappy internet services.


my VLC stream is near 800k quality
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 09 2009 11:07 GMT
#314
On January 09 2009 10:09 Shikyo wrote:
I can only see Bisu dropping the first game to creative cheese... as much as I hope that he loses, I don't see it happening.

First half correct.. let's hope I was wrong about the second half and that Bisu loses.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
kemoryan
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Spain1506 Posts
January 09 2009 11:07 GMT
#315
On January 09 2009 20:06 disciple wrote:
wow at 538 apm


who?
Freedom is a stranger
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
January 09 2009 11:08 GMT
#316
On January 09 2009 20:06 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2009 20:05 AttackZerg wrote:
On January 09 2009 19:59 MrHoon wrote:
On January 09 2009 19:55 AttackZerg wrote:
On January 09 2009 19:52 MrHoon wrote:
On January 09 2009 19:50 AttackZerg wrote:
On January 09 2009 19:46 MrHoon wrote:
On January 09 2009 19:45 AttackZerg wrote:
Heros's strategic transitions in game 2 were fucking sick. I have no clue why every terran who isn't in the top 3-4 terrans isn't going mech. I mean even upmagic is now beating jaedong .....

according to Flash, against smart players it gets very difficult to use Mech

And cmon, you have to admit JD played terribly against Upmagic.



I don't consider by.hero a smart player. I think lower tier terrans should use it by default.

Jaedong plays terribly most games against mech. So does savior/july/luxur and effort. I think mech is a good idea for most terranns

Eh, JD does have a bad history with mech I guess but Flash (who brought back the use of Mech build) has more games lost using mech than won (lol). I dunno, when Luxury played against Mech he actually did a pretty good job beating it down at MST.



Check our luxury vs Forgg, then watch jaedong vs flash from the same day, terran did the same build both games . In the mst he(lux) was super solid I agree.

Where do you get your 'Mech' stats from flash? I am pretty sure they might be wrong.

No stats lol, just guessed considering he lost alot of games using Mech in Zerg these days (including last season)

The thing about KTF vs Lecaf team is that the whole Lecaf team was trying to figure out how to fight back Mech build, and the best solution they came up with was "Deflect the first vulture wave by blocking 2nd hatch entrance using Evo Chambers and every building". And JD vs Flash, since it was the same build JD knew there is a very very small timing hole within that build. However, the only thing Flash did different was he built a CC instead of building an engineering bay widening the vulnerability which JD exploited.

btw what are we talking about?



I was talking about how low level terrans need to use mech. Then we talked about jaedong being bad against mech then you made up incorrect stats about flash () then you talked about the differences between flash and forgg's play.

Overall I think mech gives terran a better chance against top tier zergs. You go valks and you take away insane muta control. You go mech and you take away insane defiler skills. You go mech and zerg has to guess about which variation your doing since there are so many.

I hold to my argument that terrans who aren't in the elite should be using mech style of play.


Oh right, if that was what we were talking about I should've agreed with you
Dunno why I disagreed with you.


ahah. Well you are one of my favorite posters, so I don't mind having a conversation about both of us being right .

hehe
Tensai176
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada2061 Posts
January 09 2009 11:09 GMT
#317
I think that was the first time Bisu played that map...
We see things they'll never see
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
January 09 2009 11:09 GMT
#318
Bisu down to 2298 ELO. Can get back over 2300 with 2 wins easily..

But just advance KTY!
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Baddieko
Profile Joined October 2008
Singapore855 Posts
January 09 2009 11:10 GMT
#319
This tears of the moon confirm is JD map, he sure 100-0 there.
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
January 09 2009 11:10 GMT
#320
lol at all the fanboy excuses, hero played smarter there and won, simple as that
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
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