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Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
January 02 2009 11:17 GMT
#441
On January 02 2009 20:16 Lz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 20:13 Salv wrote:
On January 02 2009 20:12 Elsi wrote:
haha!

the kor gg'd too quickly^^


I don't agree with how he tried to handle it either, why not concede the two depots to the sunken, lift the barracks and fly it to the CC & put your bunker by your mineral line. Wouldn't that have been better? Granted, had the bunker been able to hit the sunken, I wouldn't have said a thing.

the correct thing for a terran to do.. when they get 5 pool or 6 pool or w/e + sunk rush is to OBVIOUSLY make ur 2 depo's on top of each other so its a ling tight wall.. then make a sunk @ the high ground (it hits the sunken) and the sunk has no vision of high ground + it misses.. so terrans just repairs the bunk+ depo's and wins the game.


I assume you mean bunker on the high ground and yes I never even thought of that. That would have been a much better solution
EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
January 02 2009 11:18 GMT
#442
On January 02 2009 20:16 BlackCafe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 20:13 Lz wrote:
lol terran can make a ling tight wall.. yet DOESNT?? Fakesteve woulda beat that newb zerg build ^_^

I believe that the best wall one Terran can build. Its the 6-pooled lings beat kkong not his wall

no... terran can make a wall to block lings out on every position.. if his (2nd depo the one in the mid was 1 space to the right.. lings wouldnt have been able to run in and snipe the marine/scv's
fonger
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United Kingdom1218 Posts
January 02 2009 11:18 GMT
#443
He actually started a bunker up there, but it was too late by then.
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
January 02 2009 11:18 GMT
#444
nice rush by EVA.

great early and lategame.

too bad for nony tho
I am not good with quotes
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
January 02 2009 11:19 GMT
#445
He only started it after he realized his first one was a fail.

He should've put it up there to begin with instead of wasting that first one trying to unsuccessfully keep the lings out.
TranslatorBaa!
EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
January 02 2009 11:19 GMT
#446
On January 02 2009 20:17 Salv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 20:16 Lz wrote:
On January 02 2009 20:13 Salv wrote:
On January 02 2009 20:12 Elsi wrote:
haha!

the kor gg'd too quickly^^


I don't agree with how he tried to handle it either, why not concede the two depots to the sunken, lift the barracks and fly it to the CC & put your bunker by your mineral line. Wouldn't that have been better? Granted, had the bunker been able to hit the sunken, I wouldn't have said a thing.

the correct thing for a terran to do.. when they get 5 pool or 6 pool or w/e + sunk rush is to OBVIOUSLY make ur 2 depo's on top of each other so its a ling tight wall.. then make a sunk @ the high ground (it hits the sunken) and the sunk has no vision of high ground + it misses.. so terrans just repairs the bunk+ depo's and wins the game.


I assume you mean bunker on the high ground and yes I never even thought of that. That would have been a much better solution

lol ya i ment bunker;; typo (5am sorry)
hugitout
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States379 Posts
January 02 2009 11:19 GMT
#447
white-ra must be taking a dump
OwChS
Profile Joined March 2003
United States51 Posts
January 02 2009 11:19 GMT
#448
These songs are sort've exhilarating. I think it's kind've funny how when Nony was walking to his pc b4 last game it was singing " nony nony na-nony na-na " rofl.
It was not I who killed you... It was you who killed yourself.
BlackCafe
Profile Joined December 2008
Vietnam69 Posts
January 02 2009 11:19 GMT
#449
On January 02 2009 20:16 Lz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 20:13 Salv wrote:
On January 02 2009 20:12 Elsi wrote:
haha!

the kor gg'd too quickly^^


I don't agree with how he tried to handle it either, why not concede the two depots to the sunken, lift the barracks and fly it to the CC & put your bunker by your mineral line. Wouldn't that have been better? Granted, had the bunker been able to hit the sunken, I wouldn't have said a thing.

the correct thing for a terran to do.. when they get 5 pool or 6 pool or w/e + sunk rush is to OBVIOUSLY make ur 2 depo's on top of each other so its a ling tight wall.. then make a sunk @ the high ground (it hits the sunken) and the sunk has no vision of high ground + it misses.. so terrans just repairs the bunk+ depo's and wins the game.

Now you re talking about maphacking :D. How the hell can the Terran know the zerg is gonna 6 pool him?
Kkong only saw thoes lings the last second when they was going to run past his wall. All I have to say is an well planned and well execution 6-pool from the zerg player
I drink alot of Cafe(in order to stay awake and watch VOD)
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
January 02 2009 11:20 GMT
#450
Long comercials. And after every game too.
fonger
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United Kingdom1218 Posts
January 02 2009 11:21 GMT
#451
BlackCafe, it's very simple. In TvP you make a wall to block zealots and let marines through. In TvZ you make a wall to block lings. What else would he want to wall against? Ultralisks?
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
January 02 2009 11:22 GMT
#452
In his pre-PGL interview, Nony claimed he'd be disappointed in himself if he didn't make top 4. It's going to be a tough run but I really hope he can make that. He's not been in Korea for very long at all yet, so everyone who is 'disappointed' in his play should realize that just because he's been in Korea for a month doesn't mean he's going to instantly be twice as good.
♥ I used to lasso the shit out of your tournaments =( ♥ | Much is my hero. | zizi yO~ | Be Nice, TL.
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
January 02 2009 11:22 GMT
#453
On January 02 2009 20:19 BlackCafe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 20:16 Lz wrote:
On January 02 2009 20:13 Salv wrote:
On January 02 2009 20:12 Elsi wrote:
haha!

the kor gg'd too quickly^^


I don't agree with how he tried to handle it either, why not concede the two depots to the sunken, lift the barracks and fly it to the CC & put your bunker by your mineral line. Wouldn't that have been better? Granted, had the bunker been able to hit the sunken, I wouldn't have said a thing.

the correct thing for a terran to do.. when they get 5 pool or 6 pool or w/e + sunk rush is to OBVIOUSLY make ur 2 depo's on top of each other so its a ling tight wall.. then make a sunk @ the high ground (it hits the sunken) and the sunk has no vision of high ground + it misses.. so terrans just repairs the bunk+ depo's and wins the game.

Now you re talking about maphacking :D. How the hell can the Terran know the zerg is gonna 6 pool him?
Kkong only saw thoes lings the last second when they was going to run past his wall. All I have to say is an well planned and well execution 6-pool from the zerg player


Er... you don't understand what he meant.

The Terran made a couple mistakes
  • Didn't make a ling-tight wall; which Lz explained was possible.
  • Started his bunker in a bad position; it should have been on high ground


None of that has to do with map hacking lol.
OwChS
Profile Joined March 2003
United States51 Posts
January 02 2009 11:22 GMT
#454
What's really the point in watching the observer's stream? Observers are n00bz, they click around the map too slow, and they don't show everything.

IMO FP feed is the best, for the person you're rooting for obv.

GoGo~ White-RA ! PROTOSS 4 LiFe~
It was not I who killed you... It was you who killed yourself.
waterflash
Profile Joined June 2004
China19 Posts
January 02 2009 11:22 GMT
#455
nony is a chobo
lol
宠辱不惊,看庭前花开花落;去留随意,任天边云卷云舒;
NotSupporting
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1998 Posts
January 02 2009 11:22 GMT
#456
On January 02 2009 20:21 fonger wrote:
BlackCafe, it's very simple. In TvP you make a wall to block zealots and let marines through. In TvZ you make a wall to block lings. What else would he want to wall against? Ultralisks?


Drones and mass zerglings cause they then have to run in 1 by 1 making them weak. :D
EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
January 02 2009 11:23 GMT
#457
On January 02 2009 20:19 BlackCafe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 20:16 Lz wrote:
On January 02 2009 20:13 Salv wrote:
On January 02 2009 20:12 Elsi wrote:
haha!

the kor gg'd too quickly^^


I don't agree with how he tried to handle it either, why not concede the two depots to the sunken, lift the barracks and fly it to the CC & put your bunker by your mineral line. Wouldn't that have been better? Granted, had the bunker been able to hit the sunken, I wouldn't have said a thing.

the correct thing for a terran to do.. when they get 5 pool or 6 pool or w/e + sunk rush is to OBVIOUSLY make ur 2 depo's on top of each other so its a ling tight wall.. then make a sunk @ the high ground (it hits the sunken) and the sunk has no vision of high ground + it misses.. so terrans just repairs the bunk+ depo's and wins the game.

Now you re talking about maphacking :D. How the hell can the Terran know the zerg is gonna 6 pool him?
Kkong only saw thoes lings the last second when they was going to run past his wall. All I have to say is an well planned and well execution 6-pool from the zerg player

doesnt matter... with a CORRECT WALL lings cant get in, bunkers build fast he cant target the bunker thats building (no high ground sight) so u just lose scv's slowly to a sunken since the marines would be shooting the lings while the marines wait for bunk to finish but it doesnt matter if terran loses 5 scv's considering zerg wasted 175 minarals on a sunk and has so few drones @ home
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
January 02 2009 11:23 GMT
#458
On January 02 2009 20:20 sashkata wrote:
Long comercials. And after every game too.

players need to setup mouse/keyboard drivers -.-
fonger
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United Kingdom1218 Posts
January 02 2009 11:24 GMT
#459
On January 02 2009 20:22 NotSupporting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 20:21 fonger wrote:
BlackCafe, it's very simple. In TvP you make a wall to block zealots and let marines through. In TvZ you make a wall to block lings. What else would he want to wall against? Ultralisks?


Drones and mass zerglings cause they then have to run in 1 by 1 making them weak. :D

I reckon he made it like that to allow for more SCVs/rines to come out and stop a sunk going up since the drone got there too early for the neutral sunk to go down, but it was a really bad call IMO.
icewindbell
Profile Joined January 2009
China7 Posts
January 02 2009 11:24 GMT
#460
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