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Deleted User 31060
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![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/pachi/banner/SPL_080930.png) A big thanks to Pachi for the banner! Shinhan Bank Proleague 08-09 Round 2 Week 5 CJ Entus - KTF MagicNs on MBCGame  Movie < Colosseum 2 >  Flash EffOrt < Neo Harmony > StatssAviOr < Rush Hour 3 > LuxurysKyHigh < Sin Chupung-Ryeong > ZergBongACE < Destination > ACE + Show Spoiler [Results] + Movie <<< Flash EffOrt >>> Stats sAviOr <<< Practice sKyHigh >>> ZergBong EffOrt <<< Flash DAUM Direct Link: HERE | ||
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Deleted User 31060
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Predictions: FlashEffOrtLuxurysKyHighMovie < FlashCJ 2:3 Kay-tep | ||
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freelander
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p4NDemik
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
Neo-sAviOr Actual sAviOr sKyHigh (unless ZergBong has some crazy ass surprise build up his sleeve) If it goes to Ace, EffOrt > KTF | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
On December 30 2008 09:29 freelander wrote: if we take into account, that KTF B-team (aka KTF without Flash) has to win only once, and Luxury has good chances against Savior, I think KTF 'll take this. the sad thing is thats usually the best chance KTF has always..... man lux whts happening? | ||
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
FlashEffOrtsAviOrsKyHighCJ 3-1 KTF (If only it worked like this on Mystarcraft) | ||
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mrgerry
United States1508 Posts
Movie < Flash Flash is basically an auto vote in PL EffOrt > StatsEffort is the better player and KTF's only wins have been coming from Flash sAviOr < Luxury This is a tossup for me but I want to see KTF have someone other than Flash win :D [b]sKyHigh[/b] > ZergBongCreativity of names, Zergbong wins. Skill, Skyhigh wins :D ACE: sKyHigh < Flash | ||
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
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IntoTheWow
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thestool91
672 Posts
as a ktf fan, i wod put up 815, haran before stats. and also, i really want to watch hoejja play. after he took down the beast tvz firebathero and 2-0ed much. *hoejja took out firebathero in Group N of the OSL prelims 2-1 :D | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
On December 30 2008 10:30 thestool91 wrote: i really dont understand why they keep putting up stats. as a ktf fan, i wod put up 815, haran before stats. and also, i really want to watch hoejja play. after he took down the beast tvz firebathero and 2-0ed much. They need a protoss; their only other optioin is Tempest who may want to only focus on his individual leagues (GOM before and now MSL). Hoejja is on B-team, the earliest he can play is next month and that's only if he gets promoted to A-team at the beginning of January. | ||
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thestool91
672 Posts
On December 30 2008 10:33 Avidkeystamper wrote: They need a protoss; their only other optioin is Tempest who may want to only focus on his individual leagues (GOM before and now MSL). Hoejja is on B-team, the earliest he can play is next month and that's only if he gets promoted to A-team at the beginning of January. o huh ok well im nearly positive he will be. taking down fbh like that and many other good opponents while playing as a B-rank player makes him something to look out for | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
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gNs.I-Jasa
United States211 Posts
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
On December 30 2008 10:53 gNs.I-Jasa wrote: i hate how u haev to use every race in proleague. i mean if you have better players then just put those up. who cares about race haha Last season's proleague was crap. 25% of the games were TvTs and zergs got slaughtered. And zerg, to a majority of people, are more fun to watch (there were polls on this on TL?). This really only affects SKT (and some other team I'm forgetting) and has actually brought out a lot of unknown talent. This match will, once again, come down to Luxury. He must feel kinda bad. | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
On December 30 2008 10:53 gNs.I-Jasa wrote: i hate how u haev to use every race in proleague. i mean if you have better players then just put those up. who cares about race haha thats cuz zergs were ALWAYS seen on the 2v2's. i think kespa wanted to show balance by having all 3 races represented with no 2v2. very few teams like CJ, Lecaf,OGN etc. had reliable zergs while just about every team had one or two realiable terrans to fall back on | ||
JWD
United States12607 Posts
FlashEffOrtLuxuryZergBong - I'm betting that since ZB got the nod on this not particularly-Zerg favored map, he has something up his sleeve. Also, I am not impressed whatsoever with sKyHigh.If this goes to ace, it has to be Iris < Flash (or maybe EffOrt, if EffOrt won his first game of the night) | ||
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
FlashEffOrtLuxuryZergBong - I'M betting that since ZB got the nod on this not particularly-Zerg favored map, he has something up his sleeve. Also, I am not impressed whatsoever with sKyHigh.If this goes to ACE, it has to be Iris < Flash (or maybe EffOrt, if EffOrt won his first game of the night) | ||
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NoUShutUp
United States172 Posts
FlashEffOrtsAviOrsKyHighACE: sAviOr< FlashLuxury is struggling and only player that KTF can count on is Flash. | ||
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Matoo-
Canada1397 Posts
About SKT, last season they were losing all their 2v2s, now they're losing all their Zerg 1v1s, doesn't make much of a change. The difference is much bigger for teams like Samsung who used to field a strong 2v2 but still lack as of today a good Zerg 1v1'er. But they're still ok thanks to their insanely strong P/T lineup. ROOTING HARD FOR CJ THERE. But KTF has the edge :/ - Flash TvP'ing on Colosseum + Lux ZvZ'ing = huge chance to get 2 games in the bag. - In the likely case it goes to Ace, Flash on Destination is going to rape EffOrt, the only hope is an in-form Much but he doesn't look so hot lately (was there rumors about him going to ROKAF soon or was it a dream?). Praying for a quick 3-1 from CJ. | ||
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TaDa1.
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(Z)EffOrt (Z)Luxury (T)sKyHigh Ace Flash > Effort effort lost to gogo on destination -> little chance beating flash. Lux on dest is dangerous as well, CJ has noone in form enough for ace. | ||
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LaXerCannon
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ShaperofDreams
Canada2492 Posts
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
On December 30 2008 12:02 LaXerCannon wrote: I'm really hoping that Movie wins somehow Movie vs. Stork, he has pulled off the impossible before. | ||
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SimonB
United States1088 Posts
Stats reminds me of myself (except obviously I suck and am a D level Protoss), in that I usually get a lead, but I have trouble finishing games and I'm often bogged down and lose too many units. | ||
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Ichigo1234551
United States649 Posts
I BELIEVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On December 30 2008 11:14 sung_moon wrote: thats cuz zergs were ALWAYS seen on the 2v2's. i think kespa wanted to show balance by having all 3 races represented with no 2v2. very few teams like CJ, Lecaf,OGN etc. had reliable zergs while just about every team had one or two realiable terrans to fall back on what those are basically the only 3 teams with solid z's at the moment and stx if 3 hat speedling is solid | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
On December 30 2008 14:39 IdrA wrote: what those are basically the only 3 teams with solid z's at the moment and stx if 3 hat speedling is solid i think id include stx and stars with that | ||
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
On December 30 2008 14:39 IdrA wrote: what those are basically the only 3 teams with solid z's at the moment and stx if 3 hat speedling is solid Thing is the only teams with reliable protosses these days are eStro, Fox and KTF. With Bisu Free Jangbi Stork Best and Kal all playing like noobs its just so sad to see such a lack of protoss in the proscene. | ||
ArvickHero
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On December 30 2008 14:58 d(O.o)a wrote: Thing is the only teams with reliable protosses these days are eStro, Fox and KTF. With Bisu Free Jangbi Stork Best and Kal all playing like noobs its just so sad to see such a lack of protoss in the proscene. i c wut u did thar | ||
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Lebesgue
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On December 30 2008 14:58 d(O.o)a wrote: Thing is the only teams with reliable protosses these days are eStro, Fox and KTF. With Bisu Free Jangbi Stork Best and Kal all playing like noobs its just so sad to see such a lack of protoss in the proscene. I think he meant without. WeMade doesn't have any good protoss. Same goes to estro unless you think Sangho is good (I guess he is decent but nothing above it). And KTF... Tempest is the best Protoss which is rather sad. | ||
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thestool91
672 Posts
On December 30 2008 14:39 IdrA wrote: what those are basically the only 3 teams with solid z's at the moment and stx if 3 hat speedling is solid is this the real idra? if it is, i want to say u rock lol | ||
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funkie
Venezuela9374 Posts
Will wake up in about 3 hours to see the games~~ yay~! | ||
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
On December 30 2008 15:52 Lebesgue wrote: I think he meant without. WeMade doesn't have any good protoss. Same goes to estro unless you think Sangho is good (I guess he is decent but nothing above it). And KTF... Tempest is the best Protoss which is rather sad. You should read past the first line  | ||
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IntoTheWow
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On December 30 2008 11:45 Matoo- wrote: What I really love about the new PL format is that it helps tremendously the rise of new Zerg hopes like EffOrt or MaGma. The Zerg race really need fresh blood to keep up with the other races (esp. Protoss). Jaedong won't be able to hold the house alone forever. About SKT, last season they were losing all their 2v2s, now they're losing all their Zerg 1v1s, doesn't make much of a change. The difference is much bigger for teams like Samsung who used to field a strong 2v2 but still lack as of today a good Zerg 1v1'er. But they're still ok thanks to their insanely strong P/T lineup. ROOTING HARD FOR CJ THERE. But KTF has the edge :/ - Flash TvP'ing on Colosseum + Lux ZvZ'ing = huge chance to get 2 games in the bag. - In the likely case it goes to Ace, Flash on Destination is going to rape EffOrt, the only hope is an in-form Much but he doesn't look so hot lately (was there rumors about him going to ROKAF soon or was it a dream?). Praying for a quick 3-1 from CJ. Really nice posts, and I agree with everything you said. Cept the ZvZ. I know it lux and how imba his mutas are, but he's not playing good lately. And well, SaviOr already proved me wrong lately. :3 | ||
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d(O.o)a
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Haha I didn't notice that. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On December 30 2008 14:44 sung_moon wrote: i think id include stx and stars with that zero and ggplay have been anything but reliable. zero has showed flashes of potential, but thats about it. but seriously, how did you name the teams with 3 of the 4 best proleague zergs as the 3 teams WITHOUT any good zergs | ||
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Titusmaster6
United States5937 Posts
lol I thought of that too. I hope CJ can close this out 3-0......I can dream right? I see Skyhigh and Savior with the most likelyhood of winning. If Movie can work his magic this just might be a great night. | ||
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rA.Hippie
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Rucky
United States717 Posts
Movie I believe in movie magic.EffOrtEither sAviOrOr LuxuryThen sKyHighCJ 3-0 CJ 3-1 | ||
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merach
United States182 Posts
http://sportslive.media.daum.net/live_tiny/player.jsp?channel=MBCGAME&league=ESPORTS&game=ESPORTS2008123002&home=ET&away=MN early i know i know | ||
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recca211
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LonelyMargarita
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1) The maps are pretty balanced 2) The maps are imbalanced, but generally all towards the same race. Both of these work to avoid mirrors. If they're balanced, different teams will put different raced specialists on each maps (so about 1/3 of each race would be specialists on each map, and you'd get mirrors 1/3rd the time). If they're imbalanced towards the same race (arguably multiple ones towards P this season), it balances out since you can't field the strong race on every map, and due to randomness the Ps will only line up 1/3 the time (slightly more cause more teams will field 2 Ps). On the other hand if they are imbalanced so that there's a 60% terran map and a 60% zerg map, etc, there will be even more mirrors than without the rule. Every team has to put out each race, so they wouldn't risk their weaker race on anything but the map that favors them, so you'll get 2-3 mirrors in each match. Without the rule, but with maps imbalanced like this, the 2nd and 3rd best of a team's strong race will likely be good enough to overcome the imbalance. For example, they might play their second best P on a 60% Zerg map, just because they don't have a good zerg and don't HAVE to put one out. Because each team is weak in different races, it then balances out quite nicely for avoiding mirrors. At least that's my theory, if I worded it so anyone could understand. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On December 30 2008 16:44 IdrA wrote: zero and ggplay have been anything but reliable. zero has showed flashes of potential, but thats about it. but seriously, how did you name the teams with 3 of the 4 best proleague zergs as the 3 teams WITHOUT any good zergs he didn't. He said OGN lecaf and CJ was the only teams with reliable zergs. | ||
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
rofl qft | ||
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Domestica
United States411 Posts
On December 30 2008 17:59 merach wrote: OP needs stream info http://sportslive.media.daum.net/live_tiny/player.jsp?channel=MBCGAME&league=ESPORTS&game=ESPORTS2008123002&home=ET&away=MN early i know i know sweet thanks for the link | ||
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KreaGata
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On December 30 2008 18:24 AnOth3rDAy wrote: he didn't. He said OGN lecaf and CJ was the only teams with reliable zergs. oops | ||
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KreaGata
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ExSoldier
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Deleted User 31060
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On December 30 2008 18:34 ExSoldier wrote: no vlc link tonight? I haven't seen Corinthos around, so i guess not | ||
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Lebesgue
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On December 30 2008 18:34 ExSoldier wrote: no vlc link tonight? seems like there won't be. It is on MBC and unless Corinthos wil save us there is no hope for it... | ||
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Lebesgue
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Flash (T) top left Movie (P) bottom right Cross map positions | ||
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NovaTheFeared
United States7222 Posts
Flash top left, Movie bottom right. | ||
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Lebesgue
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Movie puts down pylon followed by gate | ||
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Lebesgue
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gas for Movie followed by core. Flash scouts for proxies at his 3rd | ||
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Lebesgue
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2 goons out for movie | ||
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Lebesgue
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Flash started his engineering bay at his 3rd scouted by Movie and stopped | ||
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Lebesgue
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Movie harass the wall with 4 goons 2 tanks put for Flash | ||
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Lebesgue
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He adds armory and academy Range and observatory for Movie Both have nat operating now | ||
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Flash adds 2nd fac | ||
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3rd ready for Movie Shuttle out waiting for reaver | ||
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OchoCinco
United States135 Posts
On December 30 2008 18:49 DeStar wrote: I hope we see a blockbuster Movie! I see what you did there, and it made me cry. | ||
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Lebesgue
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Flash moves out with tanks and takes 3rd | ||
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Flash with dropship | ||
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Lebesgue
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2 Shuttle with revears going towards flash Movie with citadel and adds temple archieves | ||
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Lebesgue
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revear harass not too effective stops flash from mining for a few seconds but in the meantime flash loses his dropship Movie with 6 gates | ||
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Lebesgue
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Stargate for Movie | ||
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Movie has map control Flash at 6 factories. Movie adds 2nd stargate | ||
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Lebesgue
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Flash ties vulutre harass but it is not effective Movie also takes nat of bottom right vultures triying to stop it | ||
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DeStar
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On December 30 2008 18:51 OchoCinco wrote: I see what you did there, and it made me cry. lol | ||
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JL13
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Flash unsieges with 2/2 upgrades | ||
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Nexus at 8 down Flash moving out with huge amount of tanks | ||
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emp at arbiter big battle at the centre but Flash is moving further | ||
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Lebesgue
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Also harasses top left but is forced to leave it In the meantime there is no way movie an save bottom right | ||
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Lebesgue
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Again super emp at arbiter and bottom right is down now | ||
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JL13
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Movie tries to save bottom lefft, but SV's emp arbiters so is forced to back off. | ||
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Lebesgue
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Movie with 4 arbiters is moving in the centre Again amazing emps from Flash!!! | ||
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Flash harass 7 with two tanks | ||
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Movie loses all(?) his arbiters | ||
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Lebesgue
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He has huge army Storm drop from Movie at 8 kills a few scvs | ||
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usopsama
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Good god, Flash has such a large army-- well, he is rolling Movie over as we speak. Movie is being very sloppy. | ||
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Domestica
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Lebesgue
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Fucking good game by Flash | ||
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On December 30 2008 19:07 monstar123 wrote: Movie had that game, TT his is so weak in macro game His macro sucked. Where were his units? But I think that Flash won this game with emps. Movie couldn't stop his first push and from that it was over And Flash played pretty good this game. He did all he need to take that game | ||
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OchoCinco
United States135 Posts
I guess you could say this Movie was a flop! Oh, haha... | ||
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johanes
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On December 30 2008 19:12 Azrael1111 wrote: Anything to be done about daum sports and daum player being too slow to stream? keep refreshing daum sports, it will eventually catch up | ||
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DeStar
Sweden9 Posts
On December 30 2008 19:10 OchoCinco wrote: I guess you could say this Movie was a flop! Oh, haha... No Academy Award for that Movie | ||
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ccou
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Lebesgue
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Stats (P) top left | ||
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Lebesgue
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Effort sends his ov in the right direction overpool(?) for Effort | ||
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SimonB
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SaiR was facing Mind for a second because EffOrt looks so much like SaiR and Stats looks so much like Mind. | ||
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Lebesgue
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Stats puts forge adds one cannon and puts nexus | ||
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Gas for stats and his 2nd is operation now Effort teching to lair | ||
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Effort adds hatch in his main and now puts spire Robo for Stats | ||
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Robo going down for stats Stats scouts Effort's 3rd | ||
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hydra den for Effort Sair kills one ovie and is punding at the 2nd one but scourages forces it to leave | ||
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Effort expos to bot right's main. | ||
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Effort takes bottom left Stats adds 4 gates and he has revear out | ||
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Edit: Effort FINALLY gets the shuttle, but I'm not sure if it was worth it. I think he lost about 25 scourge trying to. | ||
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Lebesgue
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Effort tried to snipe shuttle with hydras and scourages but stats saves it killing a few hydras and scourges But effort is at 4 bases now | ||
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Movie is taking his 3rd at 9 | ||
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Edit: This is over. | ||
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Effort with huge army of hydras looking bad for Stats | ||
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Hydras at +1 weapons, forces protoss retreat from 9oclock | ||
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Gj Effort | ||
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usopsama
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On December 30 2008 19:38 AttackZerg wrote: I choose to watch saint v free and sea vs zero (Both are ggs, watch them) and I didn't realize I was missing effort. Did he show his jaedong-like play again? Yeah. I would say so. | ||
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Nazzick
United States96 Posts
On December 30 2008 19:38 AttackZerg wrote: I choose to watch saint v free and sea vs zero (Both are ggs, watch them) and I didn't realize I was missing effort. Did he show his jaedong-like play again? Effort used burrow really well and sniped 2 shuttles. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
Thx. My personal prediction is that he is the next super big zerg. I think he rivials jaedong in control/multi-task/macro/micro and timing everything except gamesense. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
On December 30 2008 19:40 Nazzick wrote: Effort used burrow really well and sniped 2 shuttles. niiice. Thx! | ||
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
Effort shows promise but is still far away from becoming a super user like Jaedong. I'd say his gamesense is his best attribute -_-;; | ||
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LimitlessSky
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several times a day | ||
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Lebesgue
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On December 30 2008 19:38 AttackZerg wrote: I choose to watch saint v free and sea vs zero (Both are ggs, watch them) and I didn't realize I was missing effort. Did he show his jaedong-like play again? He played in a pretty intelligent way but if it is at Jaedong level it is hard to say. Stats just hasn't played well at all. | ||
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Seriously, KTF. All you have to do each match is win ONE game in addition to Flash. You can't suck that bad. | ||
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Maestro yellow at top left | ||
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9 pool for both | ||
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On December 30 2008 19:45 SuperJongMan wrote: Effort doesn't come anywhere near Jaedong in multi/macro/micro. Don't be ridiculous. Effort shows promise but is still far away from becoming a super user like Jaedong. I'd say his gamesense is his best attribute -_-;; His micro is definately on par, macro you could be right, multi-task no no and no. I phrased it badly very badly actually, I mean Jaedong-esqe. When I watch him play its the same as watching jaedong from august-october last year. Brilliant moves , great play, but sometimes horrible decisions. He is definately not as good as my super-hero, but I think hes the closest around and will only get closer. | ||
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identical builds atm. Savior has 2 more lings, lux with drone instead 6v8? | ||
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Luxury blocks his ramp with his lings | ||
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2nd hatch for both | ||
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ling dancing at Lux's ramp. | ||
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2009 is so close, yet so far away. | ||
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The screen was frozen on savior's 4th or 5th drone dying to 4 of Lux's lings.... so sad. Assuming SkyHigh wins G4, who will CJ send to get smashed by Flash? . . . . . | ||
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Notice that luxurys overlord went down rather then home. Savior didn't find his OL fast enough even thou mutas popped at the same time + he took damage to get that kill , albiet 30-40 damage, its still not good. | ||
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On December 30 2008 19:58 usopsama wrote: That overlord pick pretty much got Savior more behind, not to mention, Luxury's zerglings picked off at least 2 drones. think it was 3 | ||
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Not important. But I think it was 2. | ||
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Definitely 3. | ||
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Cmon!! It's muh fuckn Iris. | ||
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On December 30 2008 19:59 PoP wrote: That was really bad drone defense vs the lings. One sunken alone isn't gonna kill 4 lings fast enough. He had to use the drones too. Even in the replay the stupid obs didn't show it, but savior was using scourge also at that exact moment. To the guy that said savior making scourge was bad. I can't attest for EVERY zvz build order, but I'm sure that he wasn't planning on 4 scourge,he lost a lord, and had no choice (Red supply) and since you can't stop fighting for air superiority zvz. He had to do it. just my opinion | ||
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On December 30 2008 19:57 usopsama wrote: Savior must be so desperate for a win right now. =( He's not doing that bad.. | ||
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On December 30 2008 20:02 benjammin wrote: so is it a bong made from zerg units or is it putting some zerg units in a bong you decide I would go for bong made of Zergs  I wonder how he decided on that nickname. Does he smoke bong all the time, lol | ||
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He isn't. But he isn't doing well. He hasn't beaten a big name or strong player in forever. | ||
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On December 30 2008 20:03 Sunyveil wrote: yeah i can't comprehend why KTF would send out Zergbong Probably because he RAPED in training with some crazy ass build. | ||
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On December 30 2008 20:00 alffla wrote: maybe.........movie will smash flash. O__O Argh! I accidentally clicked on refresh for the daum page instead of the mbc v. woongjin thread. Why!? Why!? If it were up to me, I would probably field Iris for tonight. | ||
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Bong (Z) bottom SkyHigh (T) top | ||
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Barracks for SkyHigh 12 hatch for bong | ||
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On December 30 2008 20:06 KreaGata wrote: In all seriousness though, that'd be sick if Zergbong had a super secret build planned here. It's weird how rare this actually happens. Most of the time when I see games where there's a big skill difference, games turn out fairly standard and the crappy player gets his ass kicked. Perhaps some sort of weird code of honor that South Koreans adhere to or something? | ||
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2nd racs for SkyHigh | ||
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*drone turns into pool* | ||
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On December 30 2008 20:09 baubo wrote: It's weird how rare this actually happens. Most of the time when I see games where there's a big skill difference, games turn out fairly standard and the crappy player gets his ass kicked. Perhaps some sort of weird code of honor that South Koreans adhere to or something? No way they're obeying some stupid "honor code", its professional and they're doing almost anything to win. I guess its just not easy the execute a cheese/tricky play versus a very good opponent. :/ | ||
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Bong has lair now academy for SkyHigh | ||
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Factory for SkyHigh | ||
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Starport+tower up and blinking. It's a dropship. Spire around 500 hp. Bong still on 2 bases. Bong suicides ling+5 lurkers into natural. GG >.> | ||
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On December 30 2008 20:16 village_idiot wrote: Seems to me like he wasn't even planning to go for a long game. No queen's nest or anything. No expo. yeah he pretty much lost 100% when those lurkers died, no back up plans possible at that point. | ||
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... Okay that was just abyssmal. | ||
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On December 30 2008 20:18 darktreb wrote: Now Flash versus..? we will find out after commercials | ||
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On December 30 2008 20:18 Itachii wrote: Why zergbong isnt in SKT, perfect place for such zerg ! Rage. I still think it's Iris. Effort vs Flash would be much funner though. | ||
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On December 30 2008 20:19 Lebesgue wrote: That was just terrible. But somehow KTF coach seems happy. Did he sent ZergBong for his own entertainment? Hope now for Flash vs. Effort... He's probably happy they actually managed to get to the ace match. | ||
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On December 30 2008 20:20 Rostam wrote: He's probably happy they actually managed to get to the ace match. The build must've worked at practice very well, SkyHigh just happened to know the perfect counter.. | ||
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On December 30 2008 20:22 o3.power91 wrote: sAviOr vs Flash for ace plz butt rape isnt fun to watch | ||
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On December 30 2008 20:22 GarlicPepper wrote: Effort vs Luxury ace match, calling it right now! IT is possible actually that KTF sends Luxury. They have sent him on that map before so why not this time. | ||
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On December 30 2008 20:23 usopsama wrote: KTF's coach is definitely acting weird today. He actually seemed happy even after both losses. All part of the plan...muahahahaha... | ||
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On December 30 2008 20:23 usopsama wrote: KTF's coach is definitely acting weird today. He actually seemed happy even after both losses. He's helping flash farm pl wins. | ||
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On December 30 2008 20:24 Lemonwalrus wrote: All part of the plan...muahahahaha... What plan? Sending out loser players like Zergbong and lose? | ||
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On December 30 2008 20:27 Komhaz wrote: effort will not lose But will he win? | ||
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On December 30 2008 20:26 KreaGata wrote: Effort vs. Flash! OH shit, gotta get on the stream for this! | ||
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He knows Luxury has risen from his slump, which in turn means KTF will never lose a BO5 again. | ||
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On December 30 2008 20:29 EpiK wrote: such a lurker massacre >< I don't understand how he thought he'd be able to do anything with that attack, it looked like he was just going "oh fuck this" and A moving them ._. | ||
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On December 30 2008 20:27 xxsaznpride wrote: I just saw effort rolling a green baggy thing around in his left hand. Was like, "HOLY SHIT HE'S PLAYING HIGH?!!?!?" Not just any high, he's skyyyyyhigh!! Wait...  | ||
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On December 30 2008 20:29 village_idiot wrote: He knows Luxury has risen from his slump, which in turn means KTF will never lose a BO5 again. I ve seen a talk today, in KTF team.. <coach> jesus, i cant take this anymore.. <flash> listen, just help me farm, we have the best team for that, we cant afford anyone else to win since i wont be able to play 2 games otherwise.. zergonb, stats.. do i need to say more? <coach laughs> true that. | ||
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On December 30 2008 20:29 village_idiot wrote: He knows Luxury has risen from his slump, which in turn means KTF will never lose a BO5 again. That is exaggerating. He is still very much in a slump. If not for tonight's win, Luxury's December winning ratio is 3 wins - 4 losses (42.86%). | ||
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effort for the upset! | ||
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Flash (T) at bottom Effort (Z) at top | ||
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Rax in the middle of the map. | ||
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Fuck you Julyzerg. You're fat! | ||
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Drones intercepted one rine | ||
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Fac for Flash | ||
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On December 30 2008 20:34 hixhix wrote: flash proxy 8 rack 6 rax | ||
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all lings dead | ||
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On December 30 2008 20:37 KreaGata wrote: Both players defending very well here. Yeah, flash defends his ramp, 3 scvs2marines vs 6 lings no problem. Loses only 1 marine | ||
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hydra out trying to kill vulture sunken at na stopping more vulture harass | ||
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Effort teching to lair | ||
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Wait. Ramp blocked. | ||
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Mines for Flash First goliaths out | ||
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On December 30 2008 20:40 .risingdragoon wrote: lol upmagic beat effort silly with this build now flash's using it i dont think thats too good of an idea though, I'd imagine the losing teams always study the shit out of the builds they lose to. | ||
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Mutas out for Effort | ||
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On December 30 2008 20:41 Puosu wrote: i dont think thats too good of an idea though, I'd imagine the losing teams always study the shit out of the builds they lose to. yea, but this is destination it's hard to take a 3rd if it worked on medusa it'll work even better on destination | ||
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On December 30 2008 20:42 T-BoT[pL] wrote: can someone tell me where to watch ?check the op | ||
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Flash at 4 facs | ||
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Flash pressing again with no effect | ||
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Flash wins | ||
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Flash has clearly had this game since like the 5th minute. | ||
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On December 30 2008 20:45 Samurai- wrote: tanks up, its over GG Yup, +1 weps finish for Flash as well. | ||
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! | ||
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA | ||
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"ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"... "Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh" ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh | ||
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Effort gg's | ||
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On December 30 2008 20:48 hixhix wrote: flash is so fucking good or is it just effort fucking up? | ||
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
Fuckn one man team KTF. | ||
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KreaGata
United States1702 Posts
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village_idiot
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
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monstar123
United States516 Posts
On December 30 2008 20:49 SimonB wrote: Fantastic win from Flash. Effort did not play poorly, but Flash just seemed in control even after the failed bunker rush. LOL it was fake bunker rush | ||
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LimitlessSky
United States434 Posts
T_T | ||
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Rucky
United States717 Posts
edit: for zerg | ||
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
Fucking good job Flash!!! | ||
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Deleted User 31060
3788 Posts
On December 30 2008 09:27 Sunyveil wrote: Was still bored. Predictions: FlashEffOrtLuxurysKyHighMovie < FlashCJ 2:3 Kay-tep ehhh, pretty darn close | ||
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Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
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KreaGata
United States1702 Posts
Woot, 100%. | ||
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Puosu
6985 Posts
fake bunke rush? it wasnt.. | ||
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ccou
United States681 Posts
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
no it wasn't. It was an expo delay rush into a low eco vulture, so the hat won't be down for long when the vulture comes. Flash didn't play to have 2 marines blocked from entering the block (1killed 1 turned around) This build is fucking dope, I think its gay more terrans don't use it. It fucks up zerg timming so much, and the only direct counter, is 3 hat speedling before lair, which is hard to do since 2portwraith with vulture defence will own your bones. | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
it was built with rine in it anyway upmagic's bunker metal's damn strong on this map | ||
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KreaGata
United States1702 Posts
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monstar123
United States516 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On December 30 2008 20:53 ccou wrote: V_V Why would you not attack move everywhere especially when you know mines are out? And why would you still go mutas when 2 goliaths murdered your overlord before any mutas are out? GAH!! Effort! mutas are fine vs goliath, theyre the best counter actually. especially on a map like that. if you go ground t will just abuse the hell out of you and turtle with vult tank till theyre invincible. problem was he was stuck at low econ cuz of the openings and you cant play with low econ vs mech. | ||
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SimonB
United States1088 Posts
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
He has another one rax on 8-gas on 9, factory on ten he did this one vs ggplay on req on gomtv FBH tried to use the same build for a super fast vulture TvT and failed hard  | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
On December 30 2008 20:55 SimonB wrote: I guess that's true that it wasn't "failed" so much because it succeeded in delaying the natural expo for a while. Yes the rax delayed the hat which delays eco, the vulture does damage/wins the game or delays, that way the timing for mutas is useless. I love clever terran play. | ||
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iLoveKT
Philippines3615 Posts
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
On December 30 2008 20:56 AttackZerg wrote: The build, 6 rax is actually something Mind did at the start of the mech revolution. He has another one rax on 8-gas on 9, factory on ten he did this one vs ggplay on req on gomtv FBH tried to use the same build for a super fast vulture TvT and failed hard mind never bunker rushed anyway effort got beat by this twice now, god his next vT I wanna see this if he smashes / gets smashed again | ||
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
Actually I just realised that in all 5 games players from my fantasy team played and in all 5 they won. Yay | ||
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darktreb
United States3016 Posts
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Matoo-
Canada1397 Posts
Please, KTF, get some depth so you actually have a non-zero chance to win PL. It's just painful to watch KTF use the same "strategy" again and again when it's doomed to failure in PL finals, and will only lead to Flash being worn out for the individual leagues just when we need a strong TvPer the most. | ||
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puLs.ReADy
Bulgaria1301 Posts
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
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anch
United States5457 Posts
why does the manager keep using him? he has like the worst losing streak in the history. | ||
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SimonB
United States1088 Posts
On December 31 2008 02:14 anch wrote: sigh Zergbong. why does the manager keep using him? he has like the worst losing streak in the history. He hasn't, actually. According to TLPD, his last proleague game was over two years ago. I kind-of feel sorry for the guy. He waits all this time to get another chance and he blows it. | ||
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Jimtudor
Canada259 Posts
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
On December 30 2008 09:27 Sunyveil wrote: Was still bored. Predictions: FlashEffOrtLuxurysKyHighMovie < FlashCJ 2:3 Kay-tep Wow... so close. | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
They are all mediocre players right now on CJ. | ||
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imDerek
United States1944 Posts
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On December 31 2008 04:41 SuperJongMan wrote: CJ has no star that is playing at star level right now though. They are all mediocre players right now on CJ. yeah but what happens to KTF when they make playoffs and they have to win 4 out of 7 matches? CJ is at least deep enough to steal wins in the playoffs from less deep teams | ||
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
But CJ really needs someone to step up to Super User level. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
With the way Luxury playing, they'll have a lot of problems in round four though =\ | ||
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
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Jaksiel
United States4130 Posts
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littlechava
United States7218 Posts
On December 31 2008 05:16 SuperJongMan wrote: based on their results with their lack of experience so far, the next generation of CJ should be getting up there soon enough O_oYeah, KTF sucks too. But they have the ultimate Super User. But CJ really needs someone to step up to Super User level. | ||
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