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[MSL] Semifinal A, Kal vs JangBi - Page 2

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Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
November 12 2008 19:44 GMT
#21
On November 13 2008 03:25 sztuczyn wrote:
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On November 13 2008 03:20 Signet wrote:
Map balance could be a factor. JangBi 3-1


In mirror matchup?

I assume he is joking. If you dont get it, read the news page.

But on a serious note, positional imbalances could affect the outcome. We all know there are no 3 or 4 player maps that are perfectly positionally balanced.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
November 12 2008 20:11 GMT
#22
JangBi is pretty much a lamer version of Stork, therefore I hate him.

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Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
November 12 2008 20:11 GMT
#23
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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
November 12 2008 20:21 GMT
#24
On November 13 2008 04:44 Mastermind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2008 03:25 sztuczyn wrote:
On November 13 2008 03:20 Signet wrote:
Map balance could be a factor. JangBi 3-1


In mirror matchup?

I assume he is joking. If you dont get it, read the news page.

But on a serious note, positional imbalances could affect the outcome. We all know there are no 3 or 4 player maps that are perfectly positionally balanced.

Or maybe he thinks JangBi and Kal's styles are significantly different and one map could help Kal more because he's better with reavers or something and another could favor storm drops or cannon rushes and maybe JangBi is better at those or something. I don't really know what they're styles are like that well and if maps will matter I'm just dreaming up reasons for what he said.
Signet
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1718 Posts
November 12 2008 20:31 GMT
#25
I was joking
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 12 2008 20:41 GMT
#26
the kal v jangbi poll feels like voting for either balance or unbalance. I guess I like balance.
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8114 Posts
November 12 2008 21:11 GMT
#27
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sztuczyn
Profile Joined October 2003
Poland694 Posts
November 12 2008 21:20 GMT
#28
On November 13 2008 04:44 Mastermind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2008 03:25 sztuczyn wrote:
On November 13 2008 03:20 Signet wrote:
Map balance could be a factor. JangBi 3-1


In mirror matchup?

I assume he is joking. If you dont get it, read the news page.


oops, didnt read the news :>
:(
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
November 12 2008 21:29 GMT
#29
The last time these two met JangBi was a one match-up wonder who had only beaten two other Protoss players: BackHo and GuemChi. Kal was on the rise with two great match-ups and an improving PvP repertoire.

Since then, JangBi however has grown into veritable powerhouse, with a 65+% win rate in each match-up since the MSL semi-final. Kal? He's stagnated, barely managing to win half his games.

Kal's ELO peak came right after his last games vs. JangBi - GOM Season 4 was his peak. JangBi's peak? Right now. Kal is the "creative" player that is liked despite unimpressive results. JangBi is the mechanically strong player, with nothing that stands out about him, he's just good all around.

Everything about it screams a JangBi walkover in my opinion.
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dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
November 12 2008 21:40 GMT
#30
basically this series will be kal throwing goofy ass builds at jangbi with heavy harass.

if jangbi holds it off he will crush kal. Kal can't keep up with jangbi's macro or big army control.



also lets hope kal doesnt get any "brilliant" ideas like a 14 nex again lol.

I actually like both these guys but they will get romped by Bisu/free anyway. (GO FREE)
NonConGuy
Profile Joined October 2008
United States416 Posts
November 12 2008 21:50 GMT
#31
GO JANBI, you gotta meet Free in the finals!
Horangi
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Hong Kong226 Posts
November 12 2008 21:50 GMT
#32
the banner looks awesome!
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
November 12 2008 21:51 GMT
#33
I can't say I'm overly excited about this semifinal, but as a player, Kal excites me a whole lot more than Jangbi does - therefor my vote has to go to him.

Gogo super-harass-protoss!
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mnm
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States4493 Posts
November 12 2008 22:20 GMT
#34
when r MSL FINALS?!
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HooHa!
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States688 Posts
November 12 2008 22:26 GMT
#35
50 50 poll percent. Wow. Anyones game.
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cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
November 12 2008 22:37 GMT
#36
the games are too tough to predict.. both players are amazingly good, will come down to luck and how each player is feeling on the particular day. I also felt that kal vs stork was 50-50, although in normal circumstances I think it'd be more like 45-55, if stork had more time to practice for it.
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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
November 12 2008 22:42 GMT
#37
On November 13 2008 03:15 QuietIdiot wrote:
Kal is such an aggressive and imperfect little creature. The kid's got flair and style, much like bisu minus the intuition. I would hate to have him lose to stork Jr, very few protoss can play the way he can.
His pvp is completely fucked up beyond reasonable analysis, which makes it all the more entertaining. Mechanically, he's on par with Jangbi maybe a little worse macro, but he's got the multitasking to match for it, much in the same way he managed to beat him 2 seasons ago with brutal harass and timing attacks.

Kal 3-1.

KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14896 Posts
November 12 2008 22:43 GMT
#38
game on KAL
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
November 12 2008 22:43 GMT
#39
On November 13 2008 03:25 sztuczyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2008 03:20 Signet wrote:
Map balance could be a factor. JangBi 3-1


In mirror matchup?

othello for instances, 10'o clock > 2'o clock because of reaver drop you cant see it well you can but the drop on the min line is much faster.
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19135 Posts
November 12 2008 22:50 GMT
#40
Holy shit thats one cool banner.
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