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[MSL] Firebathero vs Bisu - Page 17

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PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
November 06 2008 10:32 GMT
#321
good luck NaDa
u will need it vs Bisus PvT =/
hatred outlives the hateful
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-06 10:34:18
November 06 2008 10:33 GMT
#322
On November 06 2008 19:29 Sewi wrote:
I know FBH isnt a god in TvP but what could he have done?? Bisu 1a2a3a-ed the first push without any micro, running the Zeals right into the mines and kill most of FBHs units anyway.

After that FBH had not enough units to push further and Bisu (you could see this in the fp-view) had nothing to do but zzzzzdddddd. I dont want to say something about imbalance here but I just have no idea what he could have done =( As a terran player this happens quite often to me, too. 3 base P vs 2 base T, first push --> P attacks, stuned... Maybe FBH should have used the search function and the strategy forum


Not lost three tanks early and let Bisu take a very, very quick third? That first push got annihilated and it put him in terrible position for the rest of the game.
hixhix
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1158 Posts
November 06 2008 10:33 GMT
#323
On November 06 2008 19:31 freshtowers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2008 19:27 genwar wrote:
I dont fucking understand terran in TvP.

OH LOOK A FUCKING ABRITER.

I COULD COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN ANY SORT OF RECALL AND FUCK HIM UP SEVERELY BY PLACING MINES THROUGHOUT MY MAIN.

OH LOOK I DIDN'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FULL MINUTE I HAD TO DO THIS.

OH DEAD.


I don't understand how you can possibly think its possible to lay so many mines in your base inbetween every tiny little gap to be safe from a recall and once the recall comes you think that those mines will stop it? Maybe 1/9 times If you get some lucky mines in there. Arbiters are silly little units


I'm not sure if fbh knew that bisu got arbiter tech so maybe he didnt lay mine cause he didnt expect arbiter
economist_
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Vietnam719 Posts
November 06 2008 10:33 GMT
#324
On November 06 2008 19:27 dragoonkf wrote:
To be honest, was Bisu ever behind after that cheese ? It didn't felt like it to be honest because he did a manner pylon and gas steal to delay FBH's tank.


Thats is because FBH went FE, if he had gone for more aggressive build then Bisu would have been in trouble
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KreaGata
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1702 Posts
November 06 2008 10:33 GMT
#325
Dammit... Did this start early? An update on what's transpired would be appreciated.
the truest opportunists thrive in the maelstrom
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
November 06 2008 10:34 GMT
#326
gogo FBH i believe;)
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
November 06 2008 10:34 GMT
#327
FBH had more scvs after the failed proxy, but Bisu caught up with double expand. FBH's weak attempt to damage it with the 3 tank push cost him any advantage he might have had up to that point.
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kemoryan
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Spain1506 Posts
November 06 2008 10:34 GMT
#328
If bisu wins this 3-0 he'll be top elo again! Welcome back bisu :D
Freedom is a stranger
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-06 10:36:59
November 06 2008 10:34 GMT
#329
On November 06 2008 19:31 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2008 19:29 Sewi wrote:
I know FBH isnt a god in TvP but what could he have done?? Bisu 1a2a3a-ed the first push without any micro, running the Zeals right into the mines and kill most of FBHs units anyway.


err, he could have, I don't know, pushed better? If protoss are attackmoving down your push then your doing something wrong



3 things.

1. Micro mismanagement
2. Timing.

His pushes/splits were off annnd he didn't take advantage of Bisu's failed cheese.

The big blunder? Yeah, he was on 2 bases. Standard 2 bases won't cut it. He should have whore-mongered the map so he could have dealt with his loses and re-build his army quicker.
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
dragoonkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Singapore1256 Posts
November 06 2008 10:35 GMT
#330
FBH brown, 6
Bisu blue, 10
Athena II
Inter.MinD/Free[gm]/Stork fan
Samurai-
Profile Joined May 2008
Slovenia2035 Posts
November 06 2008 10:35 GMT
#331
On November 06 2008 19:31 freshtowers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2008 19:27 genwar wrote:
I dont fucking understand terran in TvP.

OH LOOK A FUCKING ABRITER.

I COULD COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN ANY SORT OF RECALL AND FUCK HIM UP SEVERELY BY PLACING MINES THROUGHOUT MY MAIN.

OH LOOK I DIDN'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FULL MINUTE I HAD TO DO THIS.

OH DEAD.


I don't understand how you can possibly think its possible to lay so many mines in your base inbetween every tiny little gap to be safe from a recall and once the recall comes you think that those mines will stop it? Maybe 1/9 times If you get some lucky mines in there. Arbiters are silly little units. There's also that other little thing that arbiters have which freezes half your army but I guess all it takes is a maphack to know which one they picked.



wow look he called them little silly units.. maybe you should beat on him too.. what a joke.. i think protoss have some units that are little too strong, but hey, its wrong since my opinion is different then yours..

#care
One ring, to rule them all!
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
November 06 2008 10:35 GMT
#332
No proxies this time. Thus far at least.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
freshtowers
Profile Joined August 2008
Albania64 Posts
November 06 2008 10:35 GMT
#333
On November 06 2008 19:33 hixhix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2008 19:31 freshtowers wrote:
On November 06 2008 19:27 genwar wrote:
I dont fucking understand terran in TvP.

OH LOOK A FUCKING ABRITER.

I COULD COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN ANY SORT OF RECALL AND FUCK HIM UP SEVERELY BY PLACING MINES THROUGHOUT MY MAIN.

OH LOOK I DIDN'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FULL MINUTE I HAD TO DO THIS.

OH DEAD.


I don't understand how you can possibly think its possible to lay so many mines in your base inbetween every tiny little gap to be safe from a recall and once the recall comes you think that those mines will stop it? Maybe 1/9 times If you get some lucky mines in there. Arbiters are silly little units


I'm not sure if fbh knew that bisu got arbiter tech so maybe he didnt lay mine cause he didnt expect arbiter

The bottom line is mining vs arbiter is not effective at all. It takes time, doesn't kill the arbiter and is nearly impossible to do so well that the recall will be stopped. Maybe it will soften up 5 zealots or something, rarely does it stop anything.
Samurai-
Profile Joined May 2008
Slovenia2035 Posts
November 06 2008 10:36 GMT
#334
hopefully fbh wins this :\
One ring, to rule them all!
dragoonkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Singapore1256 Posts
November 06 2008 10:36 GMT
#335
Will FBH be clutch and do a GGplay/JianFei , or will he just lose this game to Bisu ?
Bisu doing a standard 1 gate gas to cyber. Same goes for FBH, rax gas to factory.
Inter.MinD/Free[gm]/Stork fan
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
November 06 2008 10:37 GMT
#336
Gogo FBH, at least take 1 game!
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Sewi
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany1697 Posts
November 06 2008 10:37 GMT
#337
On November 06 2008 19:33 zer0das wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2008 19:29 Sewi wrote:
I know FBH isnt a god in TvP but what could he have done?? Bisu 1a2a3a-ed the first push without any micro, running the Zeals right into the mines and kill most of FBHs units anyway.

After that FBH had not enough units to push further and Bisu (you could see this in the fp-view) had nothing to do but zzzzzdddddd. I dont want to say something about imbalance here but I just have no idea what he could have done =( As a terran player this happens quite often to me, too. 3 base P vs 2 base T, first push --> P attacks, stuned... Maybe FBH should have used the search function and the strategy forum


Not lost three tanks early and let Bisu take a very, very quick third? That first push got annihilated and it put him in terrible position for the rest of the game.


haha, yes I totally forgot about the first three tanks at bisus third. Of course they did matter and weakened fbhs push later.
"Well, things were going ok until he lost all his stuff" - Tasteless, 17.02.2016
hixhix
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1158 Posts
November 06 2008 10:38 GMT
#338
On November 06 2008 19:35 Samurai- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2008 19:31 freshtowers wrote:
On November 06 2008 19:27 genwar wrote:
I dont fucking understand terran in TvP.

OH LOOK A FUCKING ABRITER.

I COULD COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN ANY SORT OF RECALL AND FUCK HIM UP SEVERELY BY PLACING MINES THROUGHOUT MY MAIN.

OH LOOK I DIDN'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FULL MINUTE I HAD TO DO THIS.

OH DEAD.


I don't understand how you can possibly think its possible to lay so many mines in your base inbetween every tiny little gap to be safe from a recall and once the recall comes you think that those mines will stop it? Maybe 1/9 times If you get some lucky mines in there. Arbiters are silly little units. There's also that other little thing that arbiters have which freezes half your army but I guess all it takes is a maphack to know which one they picked.



wow look he called them little silly units.. maybe you should beat on him too.. what a joke.. i think protoss have some units that are little too strong, but hey, its wrong since my opinion is different then yours..

#care


hey kid, stop trolling. You trash talk toss in every post you made. Unlike you, It was his only one post, if he keeps talking that way, I'm sure someone will burn his ass.
dragoonkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Singapore1256 Posts
November 06 2008 10:38 GMT
#339
Zeal out for Bisu, moving out, Scv scouting in right direction whereas the probe was wrong. Zeal and probe moving to FBH's main but it should be repelled by marines at ramp. Probe sneaks into main with little health left !!!
Inter.MinD/Free[gm]/Stork fan
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3387 Posts
November 06 2008 10:38 GMT
#340
On November 06 2008 19:35 Samurai- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2008 19:31 freshtowers wrote:
On November 06 2008 19:27 genwar wrote:
I dont fucking understand terran in TvP.

OH LOOK A FUCKING ABRITER.

I COULD COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN ANY SORT OF RECALL AND FUCK HIM UP SEVERELY BY PLACING MINES THROUGHOUT MY MAIN.

OH LOOK I DIDN'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FULL MINUTE I HAD TO DO THIS.

OH DEAD.


I don't understand how you can possibly think its possible to lay so many mines in your base inbetween every tiny little gap to be safe from a recall and once the recall comes you think that those mines will stop it? Maybe 1/9 times If you get some lucky mines in there. Arbiters are silly little units. There's also that other little thing that arbiters have which freezes half your army but I guess all it takes is a maphack to know which one they picked.



wow look he called them little silly units.. maybe you should beat on him too.. what a joke.. i think protoss have some units that are little too strong, but hey, its wrong since my opinion is different then yours..

#care

Its interesting that no one shares your opinion hence your most likely wrong because this is a starcraft site following pro gaming.
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