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disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
October 19 2008 16:38 GMT
#401
wow just watched bisu's game, insane multitasking, the poor zerg couldnt keep up
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
NonConGuy
Profile Joined October 2008
United States416 Posts
October 19 2008 22:20 GMT
#402
Wow July looking real beastly in the ACE game
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-19 23:10:39
October 19 2008 23:08 GMT
#403
Dear SKT1,

what. the. hell.

best wishes,

Everyone.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
October 20 2008 00:02 GMT
#404
Is there a error in the results page? Why would there be an ace match if it's already 3-1 before the ace match? I haven't seen the matches yet so I don't know the results yet.
Graphics
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-20 00:15:07
October 20 2008 00:12 GMT
#405
On October 19 2008 18:00 disciple wrote:
damn SKT whats wrong with you? I'm glad bisu/best are doing some serious asskicking but what about midas, and especially canata...


u make hwasin's tvt sound like a pushover.....
anyhow way to go stx....was hopin kal > best but i know stork will pull through
Forever Young
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
October 20 2008 00:19 GMT
#406
I'm content with the turnout. :D
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
fanofbest
Profile Joined August 2008
United States145 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-20 00:20:35
October 20 2008 00:20 GMT
#407
OMG , SKT1 how could put Canata . There were Bisu and Best,or at least Midas.
SKT1's manager lol.TT He never can make right decisions.
Best[hyo] ftw
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
October 20 2008 00:22 GMT
#408
On October 20 2008 09:20 fanofbest wrote:
OMG , SKT1 how could put Canata . There were Bisu and Best,or at least Midas.
SKT1's manager lol.TT He never can make right decisions.


oov for ace would of been sick

oov vs. july 2008
Forever Young
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
October 20 2008 00:47 GMT
#409
Hey can someone fix the results page
it has SKT1 winning 3-1 and then an ace match happening out of nowhere of July/Canata.
I'm assuming the act match actually did happen so that means either Bisu/Midas/Best lost and the results need to be changed.

Writerman what
DeepGray
Profile Joined October 2008
United States214 Posts
October 20 2008 00:57 GMT
#410
On October 20 2008 09:47 Atrioc wrote:
Hey can someone fix the results page
it has SKT1 winning 3-1 and then an ace match happening out of nowhere of July/Canata.
I'm assuming the act match actually did happen so that means either Bisu/Midas/Best lost and the results need to be changed.


Midas lost.
Yeah, I didn't catch the game live and I had to skim through the entire thread to figure out what really happened.
ScarFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1175 Posts
October 20 2008 01:11 GMT
#411
OP, you have midas as beating hwasin, which is wrong.
Can you dig it?
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
October 20 2008 01:26 GMT
#412
On October 20 2008 10:11 ScarFace wrote:
OP, you have midas as beating hwasin, which is wrong.

sorry fixed
Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
October 20 2008 03:43 GMT
#413
--- Nuked ---
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-20 04:24:47
October 20 2008 04:24 GMT
#414
GoRush, 5pool.
Edit: 4pool.
Jaedong
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
October 20 2008 05:04 GMT
#415
umm Midas was clutch last season in ace matches, his choking doesnt apply here. Bisu or Midas wouldve been the most likely choices. Canata really didnt make much sense as a choice because they must have expected Hwasin to send out Canata, and if that is the case Bisu(good winrate vs Hwasin) or Best would have been the better choices.
[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-20 05:29:29
October 20 2008 05:23 GMT
#416
On October 19 2008 16:35 Ace wrote:
good lord will you guys stfu

This wasn't a "OMG JULY KNOWS HOW TO BEAT MECH!" moment - not even close. The way Canata fucked up most zerg players would have smashed him to pieces.

Canata let July back into the game, had no vulture presence, and sat back and massed units - so Zerg gets their eco up.

And whoever said Hydras are good vs mech...wtf? :/

You need a shit ton of hydras and late game defilers to even have a chance of breaking a major mech force. They are not cost effective at all, but they work because of the damage type and the fact that you can replace your army of hydras much faster than he can replace tanks. If you lose 4 hydras for every 1 tank you probably won't care if he let you have 5 expos now would you?


This is a "OMG JULY KNOWS HOW TO BEAT MECH!" moment. When I TvZ going mech and it is spotted early this what happens when the zerg knows what they are doing. Vultures aren't that useful say compared to TvP. Vultures are only useful against zerglings. Once July got those hydralisks out, vultures can't do anything to slowdown July's expansion. If mech builds are scouted early, massive amount of flanked hydras are good against mech. Combined with mutalisk, it's even more digusting. Terran can't wait forever until 200/200. Terran has to move out and slow down zerg from taking the entire map.

Like someone said, oldschool player July is experience against these types of build.
[X]Domain - I just do the website. Nothing more.
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-20 05:48:01
October 20 2008 05:46 GMT
#417
On October 20 2008 09:22 sung_moon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2008 09:20 fanofbest wrote:
OMG , SKT1 how could put Canata . There were Bisu and Best,or at least Midas.
SKT1's manager lol.TT He never can make right decisions.


oov for ace would of been sick

oov vs. july 2008


It's curious because poor line ups have been pretty common from SKT1 of the late. From sending out Hyuk and Canata for Ace to like the OGN/SKT1 proleague playoffs last year, it's been evident that the manager (who seems to make most of the key decisions, no idea what Oov or Kingdom does) consistently makes poor decisions. He's so set on ace sniping and sending out the right players on the right maps and it makes me think that if he just sat down and blindly put down players SKT1 would do better. SKT1 is better than that, they just have to have the confidence to send out their players against snipers and have confidence that their players will prevail.

On October 20 2008 12:43 Wasabi wrote:
Okay T1 fanboys, tell me who could possibly win against July in that ace match. We're given the illusion that July is not playing well because he was knocked out of OSL, and suddenly he had to play in the ace match, and won, with his weakest matchup.

Best- no (does he want to get drill droned again? Even keke defeated him, and he looked terribad against Jaedong), Midas- no (choke more), Bisu- maybe (he did beat July in the OSL tiebreaker), Fantasy- maybe (defeated GGPlay recently). The latter two, who have a better chance of winning against July, are still in individual leagues and probably didn't prepare for an ace match.


They should have switched Midas and Canata. Canata should never be used as a ace player but he's got spectacular TvT and is good enough to avoid getting taken out TvZ or TvP. Midas or Bisu would have been the best choice because STX actually has quite a range of ace choices, and both of Midas and Bisu's matchups across the board are solid.

The second tier of ace choices are probably Canata, Fantasy, Best, Hyuk, you know, all the kids that make it into the line ups regularly. They could all win an ace match if given the opportunity but they just need to not get so caught up in this sniping business. Bul_T is also another potential candidate but I haven't seen him since the MSL.

Does anyone know what happened to Shudder_V_?
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
October 20 2008 07:10 GMT
#418
He was playing on the minor leagues before so i guess demoted to b team? Not sure probably hasnt been doing that well in practice.

I liked how July played the last game. Very patient.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Paddington
Profile Joined May 2008
Australia254 Posts
October 20 2008 07:36 GMT
#419
Very good performance by STX in this match-up. Weaker line-up on paper, but rose above to claim a win over a strong (albeit slightly misused) T1 roster, although I would back T1 to get their act together sooner or later. Their roster is simply too good to be playing like this forever.
"A friend of mine walks around the city counting Asian male/white female couples, which he gives +10 score, and white male/Asian female couples, which he gives -1 score. At the end of the day, the score is always negative. It makes him sad"
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
October 20 2008 07:40 GMT
#420
man im kinda happy july is winning games, hes such a happy fellow. imo he beat a crappy player, canata is more known for his tvt than tvz.
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