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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
Incruit OSL Round of 16 Week 3.2
18:30 KST, 2:30 PST @ Ongamenet Channel
Matches
Playoff Picture
+ Show Spoiler +A: If Flash wins, then Flash advances as A1, Much, July, and Bisu have a tiebraker to see who else advances from that group. If Bisu wins, then Bisu is A1, Flash is A2, Much and July are eliminated.
B: If Light wins, there is a tiebraker between BeSt, Light, and GGPlay to determine both B1 and B2. if BeSt wins, then he is B1, and GGPlay is B2.
C: If Thezerg wins, then he advances as C1 (Mind would be C2). If Midas wins, he would advance as C2 (Mind would be C1). Loser is eliminated.
D: If Fantasy beats BackHo, then Fantasy is D2 (Stork is already D1 no matter what happens). If BackHo beats Fantasy, then there is a tiebraker between BackHo, Fantasy, and Sea (^^) for D2.
Predictions
Results
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Bisu, Best, Thezerg and Fantasy (liquibet I have Flash winning and perhaps it should happen or July wont advance)
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SKT T1 sweeps the day. Especially Bisu!
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I think SKT is going to clean house =)
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Flash, Best, Midas, Backho. Flash must win to give Much another chance, Backho to save sea, which are the only things I care about in these games. Except Best winning. But that's a given.
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I'd be happy with a near-sweep for SKT, but I want Bisu to lose so that July has a chance.
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This is crazy.
Bisuuu~
Ugh, group A is just awful 
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On September 26 2008 11:09 Pyrthas wrote:
I'd be happy with a near-sweep for SKT, but I want Bisu to lose so that July has a chance.
No you want bisu to win you fool
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If Flash loses, people are going to cry slump, unless it was super close, so go Flash (last time I'll say that).
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flash has always toyed around with bisu since their first encounter. i would be surprised if he lost.
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Do we have stream on the lag-free Gomtv? Daum is great but the buffering delay because of korean chatting sometimes is annoying 
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
CMON BACKHO WIN SO WE CAN HAVE SEA ON REMATCHES
On September 26 2008 11:46 tKd_ wrote:
flash has always toyed around with bisu since their first encounter. i would be surprised if he lost.
I dont think flash is going to lose to any protoss anytime soon. Personally I wish Flash does well on this OSL so he can redeem his fucking self losing to Rumble and god awful yarnc
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Thezerg!!!!!!!! PLZ WIN.
Need flash, thezerg, and backho to win. Flash to win so July still has a chance to advance, and backho so that Sea still has a chance to advance.
Totally dont care about best vs light 
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Flash > Bisu (I will never vote for flash again, just for the sake of the tiebreak)
Light > Best (Oh this would be soo sweet!!)
Midas > Thezerg (owww I like them both but midas needs this comeback)
BackHo > Fantasy (altough this will probobly never happen)
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Russian Federation4333 Posts
Man I had a nice OP prepared.
Looks like I'll need to post it a day ahead I mean this oen is 8 hours before match start.
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On September 26 2008 13:21 TheTyranid wrote:Man I had a nice OP prepared. Looks like I'll need to post it a day ahead I mean this oen is 8 hours before match start.
Ask him to edit the op and add your info also.
Everybody knows you prepare nice ops. I'm sure if you pm him he'll say yes!
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My predictions
Bisu
thezerg
best
FANTASY!
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Wishful predictions:
Flash>Bisu so that Much can sneak in
Best-Light --let the best man win (in both senses: I don't care who wins it, but Best will, probably)
TheZerg>Midas --Hopefully he can pull out another win vT on Plasma.
Backho>Fantasy-- couldn't care less who wins this, but Backho has a knack for perversity. He'll advance.
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is awesome32274 Posts
Flash / BeSt / Midas / fantasy.
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I got this weird hunch that says Light's going to win.
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hopefully flash wins even though he doesn't have to. that way bisu can crush july and much in tiebreakers
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Bisu (Flash have really not been playing good the last week, doubt he will break a blood seeking Bisu)
Best
Midas ( Mind and Midas have been the best playing in that group so they deserve to win )
Fantasy
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Flash >Bisu
Who cares about the rest? Epic game, and all the much fans out there are hoping that Flash will try his best to prove he is not in slump.
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On September 26 2008 12:36 SayTT wrote:
Flash > Bisu (I will never vote for flash again, just for the sake of the tiebreak)
Why would you never vote for flash again? Let me guess, you were a fan of flash, but you're not a fan anymore? Why? Just cos he lost a few games?
Do you barrack for a sports team? Do you lose interest and hope for them if they lose a few games? If you were a fan of roger federer, are you gonna quit being on his bandwagon if he drops out in the first or second round of a grand slam?
Don't you think that its when your team or your favourite player is at his lowest that they need their most devote fans? What is the point of being a fan if you're a fan only when they're winning, and not when they're losing? To me, that's bordering on cowardice.
I think flash can come back. You can't replace class, but u can replace form. Flash has the micro, macro, game sense and mechanics to win starleagues, and to continually challenge Jaedong for that bonjwa title. Right now, he's just young and inexperienced.
I am new to this forum, but I really don't like people's attitude to flash losing a few games. He's still young, give him some time. I think all he needs to understand is that he has the skill to beat anyone, but he doesn't need to FE to do it. He can do it with one base, he can cheese, whatever... but something, or someone (maybe his coach), keeps telling him to survive into the late game to win.
He doesn't need to do that. Maybe he should go watch his 3-0 thrashing of stork earlier in the year in the bachus OSL final to rekindle some of that faith and confidence in him, I don't know.
It just makes me sad that people jump off the bandwagon as soon as they detect weakness in the person that they're a "fan" of.
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There are many people that never liked flashs *nomral* gamestyle but a huge amount of people like Much and/or July.
If Flash wins there will be a Bisu/July/Much tiebreaker.
Thats why you see many people root for Flash only this one time... It has nothing to do with is slump...
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Hoping Bisu can seal his place and advance, but I really don't think he'll manage it. : (
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United States20661 Posts
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Hoping for:
Flash (tie break)
BeSt
theZerg
BackHo (tie braak)
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SKT HWAITING
especially midas!
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Flash
Best
Thezerg (w00t)
Fantasy (though I'd love to see BackHo take it)
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Oh well, the good thing about tonight is I can bet on all SKT for every match. Hopefully Bisu will come through for me, but I can remain confident the other three well.
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omfg whats up with daum??? It buffers every second... I have watched it lag free for a good time now
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daum is laggy as hell today wtf.
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Yea...daum laggy like nuts
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god daum it, stop lagging please
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cheese from Flash?
No confidence results in cheesing^^
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Anyone post the firefox VLC link?
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unwatchable for me. ain't there the vlc stream somewhere?
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Flash cheesing above Bisu's cliff!
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United States12607 Posts
What a delight for T1 fans!
Let's go Bisu, BeSt, Midas, Fantasy!
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Netherlands6142 Posts
Same problem here, usually don'thave tis terrible lag but toda it's horrible :S Hope it gets better soon!
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Flash making bunker above Bisu's main ^^
Bisu still hasn't scouted it!
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OMG Flash!
If you're cheesing Bisu out of another OSL I am personally flying to Korea to BLOW UR HEAD OFF!
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On September 26 2008 18:41 Elsi wrote:
cheese from Flash?
No confidence results in cheesing^^
???
Flash already qualified, he doesnt give a shit about winning or not. So cheese is the fastest and easiest way to end it+ requires no practice.
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God I always hated that Flash kid. Son of a ***** I'm going to rip your balls off!
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Rofl, 3 minute game??
Bisu tries to attack with his probes and zlots but they all die to the bunker and 3 scvs repairing!
loool
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Hahaha oh wow
Well we get a tiebreaker in the group of death at least.
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omg daum lags like hell and all i can see its already over :\
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GG already...Flash goes through
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I love Flash because you don't know what to expect from him, he's good at doing everything
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awesome 3 way tie july has another chance !!
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Bisu scouted around the 14 psi mark ?
late late scouting!
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On September 26 2008 18:39 Patrio wrote:
omfg whats up with daum??? It buffers every second... I have watched it lag free for a good time now
On September 26 2008 18:39 polarwolf wrote:
daum is laggy as hell today wtf.
On September 26 2008 18:40 jigga wrote:
Yea...daum laggy like nuts
On September 26 2008 18:41 polarwolf wrote:
unwatchable for me. ain't there the vlc stream somewhere?
Second, thirded fourthed and fifthed. there should be at least a script or at least tvants somewhere but I can't find it
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Hot did he get the scv above cliff? did he supply jumped the neutral building?
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From now on I'm going to cheer for every single player that's up against Flash. Yes, seriously, I can be that childish. You went from a premium cheeser to a premium macro-whore with ill-timed cheeses... and you still look like a confused fish!
the anti-Flash fanclub starts here.
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omg its already over? i stayed up until 4:30 to not be able to watch a second of the game 
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On September 26 2008 18:44 jigga wrote:
GG already...Flash goes through
flash was trought either he lost or won this game
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Thanks this works brilliantly
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On September 26 2008 18:46 LemOn wrote:
Hot did he get the scv above cliff? did he supply jumped the neutral building?
Similar to Monty Hall, 2 scvs mine the same mineral patch, and one scv jumps over the neutral building!
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Thanks ever so much!
Perfect stream!
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Flash brilliantly cheeses Bisu... in hindsight I guess it should have been obvious.
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Is there a way to make it bigger, but not full screen?
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Korea (South)1201 Posts
wtf bisu why you always got owned by cheese :\
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Yeah, it works and it is lag-free 
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On September 26 2008 18:49 Oystein wrote:Is there a way to make it bigger, but not full screen?
nope
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I seriously think it must be impossible to practice when your opponent is flash... only perhaps Boxer has a deeper understanding of the strengths and weaknesses of the Terran race and how to utilize Terran to their fullest... gg
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flash just got knocked out of the msl by fake yellow.. lol.. he beat flash twice
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When will the tie breakers be played!?
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rofl and he won with only 250 APM to Bisu's 359... rare that you see a T with lower APM than the P hahah :D
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On September 26 2008 18:50 t_co wrote:
I seriously think it must be impossible to practice when your opponent is flash... only perhaps Boxer has a deeper understanding of the strengths and weaknesses of the Terran race and how to utilize Terran to their fullest... gg
You seriously overestimate flash, all he knows how to do is to cheese and do some extreme macro whore build. And nothing in between, he's almost as far from boxer that you could get.
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Flash, Best, The Zerg, Fantasy.
Fantasy will rape Backho, I believe. Unless he doesn't forget about making dragoons, but...
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On September 26 2008 18:46 operwolf wrote:omg its already over? i stayed up until 4:30 to not be able to watch a second of the game
lol if you stayed up till 4:30 just for this, least you could do is start watching on time
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On September 26 2008 18:59 Ivs wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2008 18:46 operwolf wrote:omg its already over? i stayed up until 4:30 to not be able to watch a second of the game lol if you stayed up till 4:30 just for this, least you could do is start watching on time
I couldn't watch cuz of the lag...
edit: still cant
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Light vs Best started!
BeSt's PVT any good? We shall see!
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
best purple toss @ 1, light orange @ 7
damn, can't read korean signs TT
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Come on Light, bring back some of that 07-spirit you had last summer! At least give us a good fight!
(Well, fine, still rooting for BeSt on this one, but it'd be nice to see a game past the 15-minute-mark)
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It's pretty obvious who's going to win, I just wish that Best's style was a bit less boring to watch. Free and Much are som much more fun to watch when they rape terrans.
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
OMG WHITE PEOPLE!
standard builds by both players
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ginger in the crowd
thought it was mani
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On September 26 2008 19:01 Elsi wrote:
Light vs Best started!
BeSt's PVT any good? We shall see!
I think it is good, but I honestly think many of his fans overrate it. It is not Stork/Much/Jangbi calibre imo. You know that he is not in MSL because he lost 2-0 to such esteemed terran players like KizoO_Major?
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On September 26 2008 18:53 Barbarne wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2008 18:50 t_co wrote:
I seriously think it must be impossible to practice when your opponent is flash... only perhaps Boxer has a deeper understanding of the strengths and weaknesses of the Terran race and how to utilize Terran to their fullest... gg You seriously overestimate flash, all he knows how to do is to cheese and do some extreme macro whore build. And nothing in between, he's almost as far from boxer that you could get.
I couldn't have said it better myself. You took the words out of my mouth.
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when will the tiebrakers be played?
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
Best going for DTS, expanded to island behind his main
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Korea (South)1201 Posts
On September 26 2008 19:04 Patrio wrote:
when will the tiebrakers be played?
12pm (KST) on 28/9, Sun
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
light pushing out with 5 tanks, 8 vultures
best's shuttle is REALLY damaged, couldn't drop any DTs
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18 gates or so for best?
^^
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On September 26 2008 19:04 Fwmeh wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2008 19:01 Elsi wrote:
Light vs Best started!
BeSt's PVT any good? We shall see! I think it is good, but I honestly think many of his fans overrate it. It is not Stork/Much/Jangbi calibre imo. You know that he is not in MSL because he lost 2-0 to such esteemed terran players like KizoO_Major?
I saw his games on Athena, the Terran had a nice opening bo with sick timing!
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
holy crap best has 16 gateways
both players maneuvering for postion before battle
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nice recall on light's main!
doing huge damage
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
YES! RECALL!
best killing both light's main and nat, light pushing into best's nat
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On September 26 2008 19:16 Elsi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2008 19:04 Fwmeh wrote:On September 26 2008 19:01 Elsi wrote:
Light vs Best started!
BeSt's PVT any good? We shall see! I think it is good, but I honestly think many of his fans overrate it. It is not Stork/Much/Jangbi calibre imo. You know that he is not in MSL because he lost 2-0 to such esteemed terran players like KizoO_Major? I saw his games on Athena, the Terran had a nice opening bo with sick timing!
I fucking hate Athena. I hope # 2 is a bit more balanced, but still, I'm already sick of it after 1½ season....
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
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At least Best did not fail me. <3
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
best carelessly loses his arbiter -__-
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
2 base vs 0 base right now
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
GG! Best and GGPlay advance!
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Wow, what a boring game, just as I expected...
Light isn't the star he... never was.
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Light needed to mine up his main to protect against recalls, if he had done that he would have been in great shape. But he didn't and Best punished him hard for it.
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United States20661 Posts
On September 26 2008 19:22 Barbarne wrote:
Wow, what a boring game, just as I expected...
Light isn't the star he... never was.
SUPER TERRAN!
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9070 Posts
this was depressing to watch, light was ahead in every way in the early-to-mid game but once he allowed BeSt to reach his 1a2a3a4a5a mode it was all over
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
damnit. ok thanks.. gonna try something else : (
[edit]
ok wait wtf i have WMP already how come it doesnt work
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LOL NVm i copied the wrong link..
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lol light looks like the most apathetic player ever
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BEST macro is beastly. WHy did light secure his main so bad, with few mines and turrets even he knew Best made early arbs when he went for vessels soon enoguh
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9070 Posts
NaDa should be a pop-star, damn this guy is the best
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On September 26 2008 19:27 economist_ wrote:
BEST macro is beastly. WHy did light secure his main so bad, with few mines and turrets even he knew Best made early arbs when he went for vessels soon enoguh
no idea, he had so much time to. i've come to the conclusion that he just doesn't care at all...about anything.
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On September 26 2008 19:27 economist_ wrote:
BEST macro is beastly. WHy did light secure his main so bad, with few mines and turrets even he knew Best made early arbs when he went for vessels soon enoguh
Everyone knows that you should ALWAYS build one ghost with lockdown agianst arbs, BOXER STYLE!
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Fuck! did anyone see that ad? It showed all these great moments of Lux/yellow.. hugging, celebrating.. After one beating the other, the winner hugging the loser in their booth.. Sad music playing with lyrics like "Despite our deep connection, it wasn't enough to make you stay"
fucking tear in my eye.. So sad that they're now separated. v_v
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
On September 26 2008 19:31 Nintu wrote:
Fuck! did anyone see that ad? It showed all these great moments of Lux/yellow.. hugging, celebrating.. After one beating the other, the winner hugging the loser in their booth.. Sad music playing with lyrics like "Despite our deep connection, it wasn't enough to make you stay"
fucking tear in my eye.. So sad that they're now separated. v_v
lool so sad
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
hahahaha, these korean commericals are awesome. they make american commercials look like Teletubbies or something -_-.
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
oh, so it was a double recall, i thought it was one
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
omg godamn england internet sucks!! :DFASJDSKFASDFAGHHHHHHH
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GOOO THEZERG 
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
aw, i have school in about half an hour, so sorry if the OP is updated for a while
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Go baby bear!
I mean, who would'nt hit that?
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On September 26 2008 19:34 alffla wrote:
omg godamn england internet sucks!! :DFASJDSKFASDFAGHHHHHHH
Mine works fine, and I'm from Wales
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The zerg to WIN IT ALL !!! :D
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I have a hunch that thezerg sucks this time
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wowwwww I can't remember a time DAUM has worked so poorly
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Why don't the announcers use headsets instead of holding the mic?
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could someone live report?
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<From: KTF.Flash> LOL, I hit B in 1 night. lololol. ur rank?
<To: KTF.Flash> I don't fucking cheese people to gain rank.
<From: KTF.Flash> lolololoolololololol. ;;;;;;;;
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On September 26 2008 19:44 zgl wrote:
Why don't the announcers use headsets instead of holding the mic?
They "obviously" have a fetisch for holding big black hard things next to their mouths.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
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Thezerg scouts the right direction, and 12hatches.
1rax gas.
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ahah floating (above lurk egg) vulture shooting at glings ! PIMP !
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Midas lifts off barracks.
Mech or wraiths coming.
I'm eating breakfast at the same time so it might be a little late sometimes.
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is midas going mech this map? o_o
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Midas expoing, so no gay all in wraiths at least.
Hopefully he'll go valks again. One vulture stopped from harassing by hydras.
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valkyrie opening...
looks like the one match against lux
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Yeees armory and starport with tower. Z now takes his min only.
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On September 26 2008 19:52 village_idiot wrote:
valkyrie opening...
looks like the one match against lux
You mean yarnc ; ).
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No mutas coming, he's all hydra so far. How is he going to fight mech with that?
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
midas needs more valkyries if doesn't wanna get raped by those mutas
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Lurkers morphing, again - how is he going to fight mech with that?
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Okay, some mutas now and scourge, seems like he's going to switch. Let's see how midas reacts.
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
thezerg w/ 15ish hydras, 3 lurkers, 10ish mutas, ? scourge.
i don't think it's gonna kill the mech if midas gets more valkyries...he only has 3
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Three valks and a couple of goliaths mixed with tanks move around, threatening Zs fourth.
Z harassing with mutas, but bolts instantly.
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
wtf is midas doing at with those tanks/goliaths?
he's in huge trouble now, thezerg moving in with hydras at his nat
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Lurks opening routes to create mobility for his hydras, might be useless now though. Midas has the middle secured. Some lings pumping into midas main. Hydra ling attack it seems. Midas seems tempted to counter from the centre.
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Valks chase away mutas and the hydras are stopped by tanks and mines. Midas starts to fuck with the Z fourth.
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Valkyries are like the definition of imba ; ).
Midas has 4 base vs 3 now.
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
thezerg ahead by 45ish supply
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Z wrecks midas fourth, or no misses the CC.
This is so over.
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Midas playing mech makes me enormously happy.
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
my stream died again TT
back...wow midas is ahead by 30 in supply, wtf happened?
edit: YES! Midas is gonna win!
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On September 26 2008 20:02 3 Lions wrote:
thezerg ahead by 45ish supply
My streams is to bad to see those numbers right, but to me it looks like he's behind 45 instead...
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
hydras get picked off everywhere by tanks, it looks like there will be no royal road this season...
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This game is like a watered down version of the Yarnc vs Midas game. At least Yarnc put up a fight in early to mid, but couldn't stop the mech on this map.
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
wow, thezerg picks off over a dozen tanks with his hydras!
time for school TT
edit: Midas advances! GG!
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mech in tvz is basically attack move.
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This map would be really cool if it wasn't for the T>Z obvious imbalance.
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9070 Posts
too much july-style here... the zerg totally ignored the hive tech
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TheZerg ggs. He gave up the heavy muta BO that earned him the only win of Z vs T on this fucking map. MAss hydra? Just no chance vs mech on Plasma
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When midas wins this OSL they should give him a regular mouse and watch as he turns it into gold.
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On September 26 2008 20:09 economist_ wrote:TheZerg ggs. He gave up the heavy muta BO that earned him the only win of Z vs T on this fucking map. MAss hydra? Just no chance vs mech on Plasma
but then again the mass muta build was against hwasin and the original wraith build - midas used a valk build which probably would have raped mass muta.
to be honest it just seemed like an impossible game to win
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No matter how much anyone begs or promises blowjobs, I will never live report a backho game. So don't count on me next game ; ).
OMGZZOR ACE commercial with Reach and all the new guys..... and Yellow!
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Nooooooooooooo, hahahaha, they actually filmed the cutting of Reach's hair! 
That's just hilarious, if anyone from Korea can find me that video clip, I'll give one of my index fingers for it!
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The thing is, I'm pretty sure that theZerg was prepared for mech here, he must have thoroughly studied Midas' game against Practise. While the build he made seemed quite weird to me, I still believe that it was the build he had prepared against mech here. If he didn't have a prepared build, he would be beyond stupid. It was not like it was hidden, he knew it was coming, he must have prepared a build he thought could counter that shit... And yet he was never even close.
That map is seriously fubar.
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Maybe I should go to the gym and work on my mantossyness directly instead of wasting time watching the constant clusterfuck that is backho....
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Even the low qualitiy stream lags now... outside the sun is shining... if this is supposed to be a hint I totally refuse to get it.
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On September 26 2008 20:14 Fwmeh wrote:
The thing is, I'm pretty sure that theZerg was prepared for mech here, he must have thoroughly studied Midas' game against Practise. While the build he made seemed quite weird to me, I still believe that it was the build he had prepared against mech here. If he didn't have a prepared build, he would be beyond stupid. It was not like it was hidden, he knew it was coming, he must have prepared a build he thought could counter that shit... And yet he was never even close.
That map is seriously fubar.
Once again, It's still Yarnc who played vs midas.
And yes I agree, when I first saw midas' build I though: There is no way to beat this with Z.
I might be proven wrong though.
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noooooo the zerg
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So if I remember this correctly and have gotten this right; BackHo needs to win this one to force a tiebreaker in group D (to give Sea another shot at advancement).
--> words I never thought I'd utter... but.. uhm... BackHo fighting! (??)
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On September 26 2008 20:17 GinNtoniC wrote:
So if I remember this correctly and have gotten this right; BackHo needs to win this one to force a tiebreaker in group D (to give Sea another shot at advancement).
--> words I never thought I'd utter... but.. uhm... BackHo fighting! (??)
lolol, it be nice if backho won for a tiebreak but i think fantasy's going to take it
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If that's a new official uniform (which I doubt) I have yet another reason to call Lecaf my #1 hated team.
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protoss practicing attack move
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shit backho looks so tired
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I hope fantasy goes bio again. But hopefully he doesn't fail this time.
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looks like backho's going to proxy
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and i won't be surprised if that gets spotted
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Great map this, where no protoss thinks he can win straight up.
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wow. Backho cheeses but Fantasy found it
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why didn't you cancel your gateway ^ _ ^
you stupid ho ^ ^
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3/3 thus far , and first time LB, although i watch sc from 2004
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Lol Backho, Fantasy goes 2 facts and you die
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On September 26 2008 20:25 economist_ wrote:
Lol Backho, Fantasy goes 2 facts and you die
backho's not too far behind
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backho's stupid , there goes Sea's chance to advance 
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maybe backho is actually a genius and the mining time T lost actually made up for it
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HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHA.
Backho is very behind - -;; for those that were thinking otherwise -_-;;
Tech - scouted.
Econ - Behind, expo, behind.
The first terran hit is gonna T.T him so fast.
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Man, so stupid
Zergs were suffering last year on maps and so they decide to bring out plasma which is the most imbalanced map against zerg ever.
and i hate midas
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Maybe it's not imbalanced - -;;
It took monty hall a ton of games before it evolved.
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nevergg loves backho but sadly noone else does
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Yeah nobody loves backho execpt ForGG
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why should the zegs have to be the ones who figure out how to break the imbalance on the map : (
I really dont think zergs will ever overcome the zvp imbalance, with the small ramps and reaver, cannon
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On September 26 2008 20:30 SuperJongMan wrote:
Maybe it's not imbalanced - -;;
It took monty hall a ton of games before it evolved.
Maybe. And maybe Troy is balanced PvT. After all, it has much much closer stats that Plasma has TvZ
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What makes you think PvT on Troy is imba?
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Korea (South)922 Posts
lol... "looks like she never loves anyone in return." korean commentators misportrayed her haha
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shit what a genius did you see how he broke out of that impossible contain?
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What's going on? Has Backho lost or is it still going?
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Fuck all haters, Backho's owning this
edit: or maybe not, i dunno
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On September 26 2008 20:32 radadaundandan wrote:Yeah nobody loves backho execpt ForGG
don`t forget about Jaedong 
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Backho was massing off two bases, while terran was containing (3 bases)
Backho broke containment but is economically behind, but with a larger army.
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On September 26 2008 20:38 Jaeden wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2008 20:32 radadaundandan wrote:Yeah nobody loves backho execpt ForGG don`t forget about Jaedong
JD hates Backho for eliminating him from last OSL
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uh, being down one expo isn't a good thing for our beloved backho...
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Backho will lose in a few seconds now.
He tried hard with one push break but it didn't break and the terran has had the economic lead all game with no damage/harass.
It's over.
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Korea (South)1201 Posts
haha the commentators got embarassed. 'um.. never loves..no one..? wtf does that mean??'
actually i also read it as "never loves backho" coz i' didn't aware of 'nevergg'
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Damn, this means Sea is out, right?
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Fantasy textbook Terran, very nice style.
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On September 26 2008 20:35 SuperJongMan wrote:
What makes you think PvT on Troy is imba?
Ask Fakesteve what he thinks about Troy's PvT balance...
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Valhalla18444 Posts
man backho is so bad
woowoo fantasy for OSL title!
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9070 Posts
backho screwed the goon/lot ratio in his army, he had too many goons, should have made some extra zealots instead, thats what I saw in the last 2 big battles
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United States10328 Posts
3/4... why no thezerg T.T
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Valhalla18444 Posts
also im super glad thezerg made a great showing in this OSL
kid proved, at least to me, that his presence there wasnt a fluke. he played strong, entertaining matches
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intrigue
Washington, D.C9933 Posts
perhaps the worst professional pvt i've ever watched
to be fair getting your proxy scouted is rough but damn everything that could have gone wrong went wrong for backho
nice push break though (as much as a push break can be 'nice' beyond 1a2a3a)
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The creator of Plasma should be shot.
The map is imbalanced and to make it even worse: BORING.
Seriously, why not play Blood Bath again.
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THe way Backho broke the contain deserves some compliments
3 out of 4 T1 won, only Bisu off the track.
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easy 4/4 but i'm pretty annoyed at all of the outcomes except for best/light
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On September 26 2008 20:48 Velr wrote:
The creator of Plasma should be shot.
The map is imbalanced and to make it even worse: BORING.
Seriously, why not play Blood Bath again.
ever heard of the term 'innovation'
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On September 26 2008 20:42 Fwmeh wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2008 20:35 SuperJongMan wrote:
What makes you think PvT on Troy is imba? Ask Fakesteve what he thinks about Troy's PvT balance...
lol... right. I'll take steve's opinion over the ex-progamers who commentate and keep their knowledge most up to date. -_-;;
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On September 26 2008 20:48 GTR-2-Go wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2008 20:48 Velr wrote:
The creator of Plasma should be shot.
The map is imbalanced and to make it even worse: BORING.
Seriously, why not play Blood Bath again. ever heard of the term 'innovation'
Removing the Net in Tennis and insteand add a whaterpit would also be innovative..
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On September 26 2008 20:47 intrigue wrote:
perhaps the worst professional pvt i've ever watched
to be fair getting your proxy scouted is rough but damn everything that could have gone wrong went wrong for backho
nice push break though (as much as a push break can be 'nice' beyond 1a2a3a)
You didn't see backho vs. frozean on katrina then?
At the height of P>T on that map bakcho manages to lose in the worst fashion ever. If you haven't seen it yet.... don't.
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Midas and Best in the finals would be AMAZING.
Those would be like the biggest games SC has ever known.
HUGEEEEEEEEe.
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much needs to qualify from tiebreakers so he can win the title.
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Korea (South)1201 Posts
i wanna see BeSt 3:0'd stork in the final.
July has no chance in these ro8 group.
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On September 26 2008 20:39 o3.power91 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2008 20:38 Jaeden wrote:On September 26 2008 20:32 radadaundandan wrote:Yeah nobody loves backho execpt ForGG don`t forget about Jaedong JD hates Backho for eliminating him from last OSL
yes but don`t forget that pic, which , if I remember correctly, was done after that ^^
...i could be mistaken though, but still, there is evidence >
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9070 Posts
lots of PvT PvP and TvT coming up
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On September 26 2008 21:03 fw wrote:
July has no chance in these ro8 group.
BELIEVE! :p (3p, 1z, 4t... hum... should be hard winning this whitout playing zvt ^^).
Well... Much, Stork or Mind would be fine winners for me.
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On September 26 2008 21:03 fw wrote:
i wanna see BeSt 3:0'd stork in the final.
July has no chance in these ro8 group.
Ahh best vs stork. Although mirror match, still would be amazin!
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4/4
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On September 26 2008 20:30 SuperJongMan wrote:
Maybe it's not imbalanced - -;;
It took monty hall a ton of games before it evolved.
still Monty Hall was TvT heaven, after Silver and GGplay there was barely any zerg players picking that map @ proleague. So monty hall was still imbalanced
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so for next stage is it a draw?
and if it is... is it First from group A vs Second from group B, C or D?
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MrHoon
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I want a Flash vs Best semifinals where flash Bunker Rushes Best 3 times
The taste of nostalgic irony would be great
Plus DRAAAMMAAAAAAAAAA
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Russian Federation1208 Posts
On September 26 2008 21:03 fw wrote:
i wanna see BeSt 3:0'd stork in the final.
July has no chance in these ro8 group.
July has a lot of chance in this group. he already beat Bisu and he will not lose to Much twice.
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Korea (South)1201 Posts
On September 26 2008 22:10 Bifur wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2008 21:03 fw wrote:
i wanna see BeSt 3:0'd stork in the final.
July has no chance in these ro8 group. July has a lot of chance in this group. he already beat Bisu and he will not lose to Much twice.
I said Ro8 (if he could survive in tie breakers.)
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Actually he should survive the Tiebreakers... He beat Bisu... He lost to Much which you could call a little upset... Well...
Much or July, i don't care who goes on... Bisu can gtfo
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Korea (South)1201 Posts
On September 26 2008 22:05 MrHoon wrote:
I want a Flash vs Best semifinals where flash Bunker Rushes Best 3 times
The taste of nostalgic irony would be great
Plus DRAAAMMAAAAAAAAAA
AND got raped by lot+probe rushes 3 times.
only boxer is allowed to win with it .
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On September 26 2008 22:13 fw wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2008 22:10 Bifur wrote:On September 26 2008 21:03 fw wrote:
i wanna see BeSt 3:0'd stork in the final.
July has no chance in these ro8 group. July has a lot of chance in this group. he already beat Bisu and he will not lose to Much twice. I said Ro8 (if he could survive in tie breakers.)
Well he can always own Best again or perhaps Stork . It is true thought in the Ro8 only monsters are left with few exceptions - fantasy and GGplay's strength are not convising for me and BEST hasn't scratched July yet .
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So whoever goes 2-0 in tiebreakers advances, and they keep doing it over until someone is 2-0?
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They do this basically until someone wins 2 in a row.
Hm... Would be fun if they had to play 15 games each until it's decided ^^.
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July, god of tiebreak.
either July or Bisu advance.
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I hate midas
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3/4, so much for putting confidence in Backho that clown.
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if july dont win i will cry so much about imbalance.
damn
only 1 zerg and also the weakest in the top8.
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mbc with almost 0 zergs left too.
its way worse than 5 years ago when we had the protoss imbalance =/
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Darn... Hoped for a SKT1 sweep, damn you Bee-SUIT!! DOH JAE WOOK FOR OSL CHAMPION!!
Best or Fantasy either or.
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Well Bisu, time to prove yourself in the tiebreaker from hell. That shit is going to be must see. I feel sorry for Sea, but I also think Fantasy deserved it. Good to see Midas make it through also.
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On September 27 2008 01:20 Kacas wrote:
if july dont win i will cry so much about imbalance.
damn
only 1 zerg and also the weakest in the top8.
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mbc with almost 0 zergs left too.
its way worse than 5 years ago when we had the protoss imbalance =/
the only july's win in the group stage was on a quite descent ZvP map, just admit that all zerg players suck atm
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On September 26 2008 20:51 SuperJongMan wrote:
Midas and Best in the finals would be AMAZING.
Those would be like the biggest games SC has ever known.
HUGEEEEEEEEe.
Great mind think alike
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great games coming!
Stork vs Best would be awesome with Stork being so dominant lately~ he's like the only one atm who can match Best's PvP
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is awesome32274 Posts
On September 26 2008 13:55 IntoTheWow wrote:
Flash / BeSt / Midas / fantasy.
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
On September 26 2008 20:51 SuperJongMan wrote:
Midas and Best in the finals would be AMAZING.
Those would be like the biggest games SC has ever known.
HUGEEEEEEEEe.
amen my brotha
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4/4, glad fantasy proved he wasn't BackHo-able this set.
Also there's only like 2 strong, established Zergs and like only 1 up-and-coming Zerg who looks like he'll amount to anything so I dunno if imbalance is that big a deal with most of the swarm is full of guys who just aren't good enough yet.
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Man, this last set of tiebreaks are going to be really exciting. I hope Bisu or Much makes it through.
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I don't understand all the Plasma hate. Unless you guys really get off at watching 200/200 armies run into each other, I think Plasma has produced some highly entertaining, highly unique and incredibly fun games to watch. What was the last map to have Valkyries AND Scouts used as legitimate units?
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BackHo is quite a good player. Good with his risk-taking, fairly creative, excellent with reavers.
But Fantasy dominated him comprehensively. A player to keep an eye on in the future.
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United States11390 Posts
On September 27 2008 08:21 Random_0 wrote:
BackHo is quite a good player. Good with his risk-taking, fairly creative, excellent with reavers.
What?
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On September 27 2008 07:44 benjammin wrote:
I don't understand all the Plasma hate. Unless you guys really get off at watching 200/200 armies run into each other, I think Plasma has produced some highly entertaining, highly unique and incredibly fun games to watch. What was the last map to have Valkyries AND Scouts used as legitimate units?
Well PvT aside because that map is interesting that matchup but TvZ and ZvP is broken badly. Protoss can easily use sair/reaver to decimate Zerg user. Terran can go whatever he wants (mainly wraiths) and zerg have to play more 1 base tactics which sucks and late game getting 3rd and 4th gas is extremely hard because middle expansions are easily sieged by tanks.
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On September 27 2008 08:21 Random_0 wrote:
BackHo is quite a good player. Good with his risk-taking, fairly creative, excellent with reavers.
But Fantasy dominated him comprehensively. A player to keep an eye on in the future. wtf, did you watch backho' macro in that game? It stopped every few minutes. Like, entirely. Goes up to 2000 minerals, then he spends until its back down to 200, ignores it for minutes on end. He didn't do anything to stop the vulture harass, gave up his 3rd gas way too easily. He won a major battle, and then did literally nothing else the whole game. It's embarrassing how bad he is. And yet, good.
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Sooo, how and when is the tiebreaker conducted?
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On September 27 2008 09:35 SimonB wrote:
Sooo, how and when is the tiebreaker conducted? its on the other page on how its conducted, im not sure when though.
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LOL @ bisu for not scouting early
come on, u could almost smell the cheese coming, its flash AND he's playing a game where he has nothing to lose!
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well to be fair, flash hasn't cheesed since like...before his osl win?! But yeah...I agree.
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is best vs stork possible for the next round? (they both got first place, can they face each other?)
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United States3705 Posts
On September 27 2008 22:29 Danka wrote:
is best vs stork possible for the next round? (they both got first place, can they face each other?)
i dont think so. I'm not sure how the bracket is worked out, but I'm sure group winners never face each other.
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Excellent play by Best.
Sadly Sea, Light and BackHo are out.
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