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Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
September 11 2008 14:39 GMT
#221
wrong flags for castro and fenix and handy lol

peruvian not bolivian!
ZlyKiss
Profile Joined April 2006
Poland697 Posts
September 11 2008 14:55 GMT
#222
these last games werent worth waiting for, too painfull to watch :/
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-11 15:16:55
September 11 2008 15:15 GMT
#223
ROFL @ 5:23 of G5 vs Fenix Othello

+ Show Spoiler +
AAAAHGHGHH!!!!!
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
September 11 2008 15:20 GMT
#224
On September 12 2008 00:15 NonY[rC] wrote:
ROFL @ 5:23 of G5 vs Fenix Othello

+ Show Spoiler +
AAAAHGHGHH!!!!!



ROFLROFLROFL
#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
September 11 2008 15:31 GMT
#225
Diggity needs to fix his mic, but theres really nothing wrong with his commentary, he just did play by play instead of discussing the game and theres nothing really wrong with that.
My. Copy. Is. Here.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
September 11 2008 15:32 GMT
#226
yeah nothing wrong with it at all...

"Oh a citadel of adun. You think storm drops?"

NO I THINK THAT A CITADEL OF ADUN MEANS JUST ABOUT ANYTHING FUCK
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
September 11 2008 15:42 GMT
#227
You need to start doing mic tests, make a quick video, encode and watch to make sure the levels are equal and everything is ok.

You can't keep trial and erroring during actual games, it's really amateurish

I mean correct me if I'm wrong but half the point of the vods with Daniel and these are to sorta build a portfolio of commentaries to get you hired to do actual commentary in korea right? I think it would go a long way to buy a decent microphone and actually test things out before casting

a near professional sounding USB microphone can be had for like $100 which is a small investment into something that can get you a job I'd think.

I'm just really confused by the arrangement at this point it's like Daniel Lee brought you to korea so you can sound like you're still in your bedroom with your dog barking behind you
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
September 11 2008 15:43 GMT
#228
On September 12 2008 00:31 Piy wrote:
Diggity needs to fix his mic, but theres really nothing wrong with his commentary, he just did play by play instead of discussing the game and theres nothing really wrong with that.

I can see what's going on in the game, I want to hear deeper conversation (and funny comments!) like between Daniel Lee and Artosis. (or Chill and Artosis).
Also the first time he came on, the mic was like :S
HooHa!
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States688 Posts
September 11 2008 15:47 GMT
#229
Wow man, fenix is on fire! He plays so good! His vulture mines are in all the right spots, he plays flawlessly, and he plays smart, and he does it with style. He's harrassing multiple spots, he's not missing any depots. I almost thought The Blue Storm Match was G5 vs Nada 2.

I laughed at the LOUD marine dying sounds.
Hoo Ra!
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-11 15:53:31
September 11 2008 15:47 GMT
#230
On September 10 2008 03:01 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Estro was a bunch of racist assholes who ignored greg.. his "pro training" was ICCUP..


It is indeed very hard to get accepted if you want to go through it the korean way. I think it's plain wrong to do so. You're not going to another country to get brainwashed, no matter what you're going to do over there.

We never had this issue as we used to hang out amongst foreigners.

I however experienced (may I say much deeper because of the "field" i was in later on) 100% Korean immersion - and it never went that bad.

I think that comes from four different things :

A nice chunk of Korean semi / pros you gonna end up meeting will be awkward persons, if not social retards that are school drop outs. Therefore these social rejects will tend to easily abuse any bit of authority / power they get over another (talkin bout morons here obviously). Within the training house they're gods, outside, junk.

Secondly, Idra isn't exactly the tall good looking cool kid (when you're much bigger than them, have a fucking loud voice and make them look like schoolgirls when it comes to drinking, they bow in your presence >.>, sad, but true.)

If he wasn't considered as a very good player either, then, his "fellow team mates" prolly used to daily trash talk him in Korean (they love to do that).

Last but not least, Koreans hold something big time against people from U.S.A. Often I met racist douches that went up to me saying "You're from Europe, that's fine, but we don't like Yankees". And I can guarantee you that a good part of Koreans that never went abroad retardly think the same.

Makes me real sad to hear that, but flying from your country straight into the Estro house isn't the most genius plan imo. If I have any piece of advice to give him, is to be smart enough to actually make difference between what's actually tolerable and cultural thing you gotta take, and plain bullshit.

Like sharing clothes and them taking some of your stuff = total utter bs. One of them does that ? Go right at him and explain him what the fuck's up.

One of the most basic cultural male traits in Korea is beeing a stupid macho. One must be firm enough to not let himself koreanized right away and turn into some kind of pathetic slave, and at the same time, be cool enough to culturaly share what is sharable.

Last thing, I saw a video where they made Idra clean the fucking floor. I can fucking guarantee you, none of either me or elky or grrrr would've ever done that.

Would've rather been the manager's job...


EDIT : I hope it goes better @CJ. However, at the same time, if the players over there think he is out of place and doesnt belong to pro gaming, it won't ever work out. Especially nowadays. Also you won't be able to make them believe the arguement hes here for extra advertisement, hes not like gonna go TV talent or shooted in Korean TV commercials, even if hed win 3 starleagues..
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
September 11 2008 15:55 GMT
#231
Estro was a bunch of racist assholes who ignored greg.. his "pro training" was ICCUP


WTF I refuse to believe this. Even if they are 'racist', I don't see why they would, isn't eStro a professional team where that doesn't even matter?

Was this a joke or what?
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-11 16:01:46
September 11 2008 16:00 GMT
#232
On September 12 2008 00:55 BlackStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
Estro was a bunch of racist assholes who ignored greg.. his "pro training" was ICCUP


WTF I refuse to believe this. Even if they are 'racist', I don't see why they would, isn't eStro a professional team where that doesn't even matter?

Was this a joke or what?


It's not a joke. After the novelty wore off, the rest of the estro team basically refused to play with idra outside of the mandatory team ranking tournaments. after a new coach axed those, his practice time was 100% iccup. they saw losing to him as an embarassment, and believe me, they did lose to him. the entire team basically ignored him because he was the white guy, they wanted nothing to do with him. except for a few who were friendly, but still generally refused to play him.

the coaches did absolutely nothing about it, despite idra addressing the situation multiple times. moving to CJ has a massive effect on idra, because as soon he was sent there, shit got real. he's playing 50 games a day against CJ B team players who are overall better than a lot of estro's A team.

this is the difference between CJ and a team that finished below the air force in last season's proleague. shit is run properly.
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4952 Posts
September 11 2008 16:09 GMT
#233
Good luck to all the foreigners who will get picked up by eSTRO from now on then 8D

*insert cookie monster image here*

P.s.: Floor-scrubbing on the other hand is part of a korean pro-team as far as I know and nothing shameful.
Complete the cycle!
SayTT
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2158 Posts
September 11 2008 16:10 GMT
#234
Sounds to me that idra got almost the same treatment at estro as draco got at ogn
-,-
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
September 11 2008 16:32 GMT
#235
FS nailed it.

eSTRO was/is a fucking joke. They treated him like dirt and it took FOREVER for them to even have the chance to treat him like dirt.. they strung greg along for a good 3 weeks before he even came to korea. They kept putting the date back, making more requirements.. etc they REALLY are slimey fucks.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
September 11 2008 16:52 GMT
#236
glad he's in a nice professionally run team... let's see if he can get good enough in a month to smash the competition at WCG USA! +D

twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4536 Posts
September 11 2008 16:58 GMT
#237
It's not only estro's fault I think. To do well in a completly different country and have a chance to succeed you have to be outgoing/charismatic to get people to like you.
Team Liquid
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
September 11 2008 17:14 GMT
#238
On September 12 2008 01:58 ret wrote:
It's not only estro's fault I think. To do well in a completly different country and have a chance to succeed you have to be outgoing/charismatic to get people to like you.



QFT ...
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
September 11 2008 17:15 GMT
#239
I think if you hold a tourney where you invite someone to a different country it isn't the winners job to be a certain kind of person in order to do well. It is the job of the established, comfortable and domestic company to make it a welcoming experience for the person that is in a foreign country playing against superior players... so yeah, it was eSTRO's fault. Not greg's for being the person that he is.
freshtowers
Profile Joined August 2008
Albania64 Posts
September 11 2008 17:28 GMT
#240
If they are so embarassed to lose to idra, imagine push[gm] LOL
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